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For 30+ years companies are trying and failing, maybe it is time to give up on this idea.
Considering there are zero (as in 0.000) concrete facts we know about Apple AR/VR glasses, it's seriously impressive that you can have such a strong opinion about them. How do you do it?
 
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I want it so badly to be much better than Meta Quest (which is currently the golden standard of the industry) and whatever Google is planning to do.
 
Listening to Mark Zuckerberg's latest podcast with Rogan didn't convince me on VR or AR.

Hopefully Apple considers how users will benefit from it differently than Meta.
Old joke and it’s been applied to a lot of people but it’s definitely appropriate for Zuckerberg: Do you know how to tell when Mark is lying? His lips are moving.
 
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I want it so badly to be much better than Meta Quest (which is currently the golden standard of the industry) and whatever Google is planning to do.

I suspect Apple's real interest is in AR. VR will come along for the ride and be a nice secondary market.
 
Considering there are zero (as in 0.000) concrete facts we know about Apple AR/VR glasses, it's seriously impressive that you can have such a strong opinion about them. How do you do it?
30 years of experience with VR things, they are always the next big thing, they are always ready but in the end nobody wanted them and nobody really used them. I mean there is an entire episode of Murder She Wrote which plays in the VR world: That Time Murder, She Wrote Took On VIRTUAL REALITY
 
One mystery to me is why Google abandoned the Google glasses?

They were 10 years ahead of the competition. With all the technological improvements, AI, and user feedback from the last years, they could come up with something very nice
 
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I suspect Apple's real interest is in AR. VR will come along for the ride and be a nice secondary market.
They are already the same thing. With current passthrough, VR is AR. Cameras vs transparent lenses? Sure, it will be nice to scale down the form factor but the experience will not change.
 
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I will probably wait for Gen 10. I do not feel like spending 3k on something that will probably look like a Nintendo Wii world render. I am happy to be proven otherwise but everything I have seen on YouTube so far looks like PS2 / Nintendo 64 graphics.

Call me when I can put on the headset and actually pretend I am in Hawaii, not "Sims Hawaii"
 
For 30+ years companies are trying and failing, maybe it is time to give up on this idea.
It took 25 years for Apple to finally realize the vision that started with Newton, a handheld tablet like device that could eventually replace a computer. Many companies tried and failed often. Apple eventually succeeded where others could not, because they developed a singular vision that only released products that met their expectations and provided something useful to buyers.

They are so willing to just say no that I’m very interested in seeing their vision.
 
One mystery to me is why Google abandoned the Google glasses?

They were 10 years ahead of the competition. With all the technological improvements, AI, and user feedback from the last years, they could come up with something very nice
Probably because it was an extremely flawed concept that even to this day nobodys got right - what they made is nothing remotely like a VR headset.
 
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Like always people say „nothing for me, it is too expensive, nobody will buy it“. Happened to the ipad, apple watch etc. And look where we are now ;)

It will be a hit and lots of people will buy it. VR is still in the early stages and it will be the future.
All price dependent. Not everything apple does is a home run. Take the HomePod and airpod max for example. Over priced for the market and not everyone falls for the apple tax.
 
I can see wearing a headset short-term to play a game, but I can’t see wearing this long-term as a phone or computer replacement. Even if the price were more “accessible”, I don’t see how this is anything other than a gimmicky niche product. But I guess I could be eating my words in a couple years when we’re all walking around with goggles on wondering how we ever used smartphones…
 
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30 years of experience with VR things, they are always the next big thing, they are always ready but in the end nobody wanted them and nobody really used them. I mean there is an entire episode of Murder She Wrote which plays in the VR world: That Time Murder, She Wrote Took On VIRTUAL REALITY
Ok.

Let me give you a counter-example:

Human beings attempted to fly for hundreds of years before the Wright brothers finally made it reality in 1903.

In fact, there are sketches of flying contraptions by Leonard da Vinci dating back all the way to the early 1480s.

Should they have stopped because people had hundreds of years of experience at attempting to fly and it had never worked?

History tells us that just because an idea has been around for a long time is not indicative of whether it will one day be viable or not.
 
They are already the same thing. With current passthrough, VR is AR. Cameras vs transparent lenses? Sure, it will be nice to scale down the form factor but the experience will not change.

No. Even though they share the same underlying technology, they are far different markets and applications.

For example, I have little interest in VR. But have a ton of interest in AR with lots of applications in mind - especially for commercial applications - and some personal.

Someone else, more likely individuals than companies, will be much more interested in VR.
 
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