Triple-Lens Camera on 2019 iPhones Said to Enable 3D Sensing and Enhanced Zoom

[gene731]

Awesome! I'm thinking of getting a third eye installed so I can sense 3D too!

Make sure you get it placed like a Cyclop would have. That would be neat.
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This is getting comical with the camera lenses... if you're so into photography, do yourself a favor and buy a real DSLR camera. Let's keep innovating the smartphone in other areas, the camera has received enough attention already.

EDIT: oh, and hardly anyone is using or wants to use AR... it's a lot to bet on an unproven technology. AR could easily go the way of 3D movies. Don't mean to upset all the Pokeman Go players but...

I don't know on the getting a DSLR. I have one, a Canon 5D Mark IV but I don't carry it with me all day Lon either, my iPhone on the other hand is always with me, so for me personally, I am all for camera improvements.

 

[mi7chy]

Because you can't break the rules of physics? A certain focal length is needed./QUOTE]

Then, how is it that phones that are ranked higher are flush?

https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/

 

[tennisproha]

Apple will launch at least one new iPhone model with a triple-lens rear camera in 2019, according to Taiwanese website Economic Daily News, citing a research note from Deutsche Securities analyst Jialin Lu.

A triple-lens iPhone X mockup by Martin Hajek via iDrop News​

Lu believes the triple-lens camera system will enable advanced 3D sensing via stereoscopic vision, with two of the sensors able to capture images of a single object from different angles. A triangulation method would then be used to obtain the distance between the iPhone and the object.

Like the TrueDepth system on the front of the iPhone X, the report suggests that the rear 3D sensing will be used for augmented reality purposes. The prediction lines up with a report from Bloomberg's Alex Webb, who last year said future iPhones will be equipped with rear-facing 3D sensing capabilities.

At the time, Webb reported that Apple was evaluating a time-of-flight approach that calculates the time it takes for a laser to bounce off surrounding objects to create a 3D image of the environment, but Lu believes that Apple will instead use the triple-lens approach for the rear camera system.

Apple CEO Tim Cook has repeatedly expressed his profound interest in augmented reality. Last year, Apple released its ARKit platform, enabling developers to create augmented reality apps for iPhones and iPads on iOS 11.

Meanwhile, the third lens would likely have a longer focal length for enhanced zoom capabilities, according to Lu.

The long-focus lens would likely enable 3x optical zoom on an iPhone for the first time, enabling users to magnify the image in the viewfinder by up to three times without a blurry reduction in quality like digital zoom. iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X models feature 2x optical zoom for comparison.

Huawei's new P20 Pro smartphone became the first with a triple-lens rear camera system, including a 40-megapixel lens, a 20-megapixel monochrome lens, and an eight-megapixel telephoto lens with up to 3x optical zoom.

Yuanta Securities analyst Jeff Pu also expects Apple to release at least one iPhone with a triple-lens rear camera next year.

Article Link: Triple-Lens Camera on 2019 iPhones Said to Enable 3D Sensing and Enhanced Zoom

Wtf. Please stop. I think one is enough. The camera is not where Apple needs to focus.

 

[FelixDerKater]

5x optical. That would be nice.

 

[- rob -]

This seems like a potential step toward the rumored AR/VR headset. Presumably, to offer both modes you would need to pass through what the user would see without the headset.

To do that, you need an array of high def cameras, which are your virtual eyes, rebroadcasting on the rumored 8k individual displays.

Once the 3 camera, 3d sensing is nailed down, it is only a matter of getting the definition up to 8k. Maybe not too hard when you're working with something the size of a headset.

 

[Baymowe335]

Forget about the triple-lens and offer the phones for less than $1000 again. My view.

They build what people want.

 

[bushman4]

Real AR is many years off unfortunately
Obtaining info for AR is as complicated as creating Apple Maps. The way people (not in the know) are talking makes it seem as though it’s 2 to 3 years away
There’s no question that when we finally see it a new dimension will open

 

[santaliqueur]

The iPhone X is the point here. Apple changed its strategy significantly and tested the price sensitivity of its customer base. Before you were able to purchase the flagship model without this ridiculous premium. I don’t care Apple is willing to still provide me 3 year old models for the discounts you listed.

Lest you forget that without the iPhone X, the iPhone 8 WOULD be the flagship. You're completely ignoring they made the flagship better. Stop pretending like they just increased the price of the most expensive phone without making any other changes. That is not true and we both know it.

 

[McG2k1]

Why not just put six on it then? Three matching on the other side would allow for 2x whatever is supposed to be good about whatever it’s supposed to be doing. Elegance was abandoned years ago anyway.

 

[iZac]

The third lens looks into your soul.

 

[Junior117]

Don't worry, at some point they'll eventually fill the back panel with an array of cameras and then there'll be no question of any protrusion.

Dang it! You beat me to this joke.

 

[KFREX]

The iPhone X is the point here. Apple changed its strategy significantly and tested the price sensitivity of its customer base. Before you were able to purchase the flagship model without this ridiculous premium. I don’t care Apple is willing to still provide me 3 year old models for the discounts you listed.

To get the best of the best, you're spending more money. You could always save yourself some money by getting older phones, that hasn't changed. What's changed is Apple's premium phone costs $1,000, while it used to cost $600 - 700 to get the latest and greatest. Definitely a reason to complain if you're one to complain.

Bitterness haunts you both and I cannot empathize. Your inability to afford this ultra-premium modern marvel is clearly not a problem for Apple due to another round of record breaking sales. It's not like they jacked up the price of all their older phones when the X was launched. In fact, all of your needs can easily be met with more inexpensive models like the iP7,8 and the only thing you are missing out is the "iPX specific" tech & bragging rights.

Apple didn't force anyone's hand here, they made the iP8 for those they expected would be unwilling to accept the new top-tier pricing, had they not done this then I would understand the outrage. I simply had to change my fast food eating habits to afford this device (win-win) and I love every minute of it.

 

[shareef777]

AR, the next greatest thing since 3D.

 

[groadyho]

Bitterness haunts you both and I cannot empathize. Your inability to afford this ultra-premium modern marvel is clearly not a problem for Apple due to another round of record breaking sales. It's not like they jacked up the price of all their older phones when the X was launched. In fact, all of your needs can easily be met with more inexpensive models like the iP7,8 and the only thing you are missing out is the "iPX specific" tech & bragging rights.

Apple didn't force anyone's hand here, they made the iP8 for those they expected would be unwilling to accept the new top-tier pricing, had they not done this then I would understand the outrage. I simply had to change my fast food eating habits to afford this device (win-win) and I love every minute of it.

The smugness from Appleheads makes it certain I won't buy one and contribute to this verbal vomit from some. Geez bro, with payment plans anyone can buy the X it is not like what you think. They're selling well now you can get them BOGO or 1/2 off. I see their comments as valid and not about them being jealous.

 

[yaxomoxay]

The smugness from Appleheads makes it certain I won't buy one and contribute to this verbal vomit from some. Geez bro, with payment plans anyone can buy the X it is not like what you think. They're selling well now you can get them BOGO or 1/2 off. I see their comments as valid and not about them being jealous.

The best of the best does and has more than the previous best of the best. Why would you expect it at the same price point is beyond any logic.
Besides, buyers are adults that are free to make their own decisions based on their own circumstances.

 

[Someyoungguy]

The camera is not where Apple needs to focus.

Yes, but changing the phone is their “call”
If I get the X, the OLED screen will boost my “image”
How does the HomePod make money? “Volume”!

 

[littyboy]

They build what people want.

"What people want?" - That hasn't been true for years lol. You mean they build what they want and people will still buy so they will continue building it their way.

 

[EdT]

Protrusions have been a complaint for some time now. I have an iPhone 6 and its camera lens protrudes.

In and of itself I don’t care. I buy a case and it doesn’t protrude beyond that, so I think it’s a non problem for most people. I haven’t owned any other brand of phone in a while so I don’t know how iPhones compare picture wise with other brands. The sensor and lens technology is probably pretty much the same no matter whose phone you buy. So do iPhone lenses protrude more than other brands and if so, physically why? Thinner phone, longer focal length, what’s the physical difference?

As far as AR, it’s been all flash and no function. A few gimmicky functions, mostly built into the OS and not 3rd party apps but nothing that has gotten much attention. Apple keeps saying that there are new and exciting AR programs coming but I haven’t seen one or heard of one in development. I can’t think of anything that currently exists that AR would improve and I haven’t heard of anything on the horizon that is going to make it must have technology. It seems to be a feature looking for a reason to exist.

 

[code-m]

How would that work? make a thicker iPhone that can fit a bigger battery and look more flush? blasphemous!

You Sir, do not understand sarcasm

 

[currentinterest]

I would much prefer thinner with an even more (relatively) protruding camera. And, throw in lighter as well. I am looking forward to the applications made possible by this hardware.

 

[Michael Scrip]

As far as AR, it’s been all flash and no function. A few gimmicky functions, mostly built into the OS and not 3rd party apps but nothing that has gotten much attention. Apple keeps saying that there are new and exciting AR programs coming but I haven’t seen one or heard of one in development. I can’t think of anything that currently exists that AR would improve and I haven’t heard of anything on the horizon that is going to make it must have technology. It seems to be a feature looking for a reason to exist.

Agreed.

I used AR exactly once... in the IKEA app.

I can't imagine a situation where more cameras would make the experience "better"

Seems like a waste to put so much effort into this technology.

Apple engineers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could... that they didn't stop to think if they should.

I wonder if AR is the next 3D Touch or Macbook Touchbar. A big flashy presentation... yet no one cares the next week and beyond.

 

[code-m]

Consumer are shallow and they use Apple iPhone products as status symbols and fashion statements. The 8 was the same stale design that was used in the 7, 6S and 6. People were looking for something new and fresh, iPhone X hit the mark. If the iPhone 8 had a whole new design and the iPhone X retained its present design, that is when one can say if the X was a true success. Apple knows this, hence their increased the price for the X.

It’s a sad reality, people will pay more to show the world of their perceived status. The irony of all this is that most can barely afford it which in factuality is deceiving oneself to the world of their insecurities.

I have an iPhone SE, love the size and usability, no complaints here Android OS is insecure and memory management is still not quite on par with iOS, only reason why I prefer iOS at present.

 

[EdT]

"What people want?" - That hasn't been true for years lol. You mean they build what they want and people will still buy so they will continue building it their way.

If you’re honest you would admit that this has always been the case with most phone manufacturers. It’s the features you didn’t know about ahead of time that caught, for whatever reason, peoples fancy that makes a brand popular. That’s a large part of the reason Apple is so secretive. Too much so in my opinion, but I think that’s the reason.

I don’t have a problem with new features like AR, but it’s actually been around for 2 or 3 phone models. It’s not new, and there isn’t anything on the horizon that says that it is about to take off. Like someone else mentioned, it’s like 3D, fascinating technology, no real use yet.

 

[citysnaps]

This is getting comical with the camera lenses... if you're so into photography, do yourself a favor and buy a real DSLR camera. Let's keep innovating the smartphone in other areas, the camera has received enough attention already.

EDIT: oh, and hardly anyone is using or wants to use AR... it's a lot to bet on an unproven technology. AR could easily go the way of 3D movies. Don't mean to upset all the Pokeman Go players but...

A real camera????

I'm into photography and have a DSLR, but when I'm out and about, I much prefer shooting with my iPhone, and make photographs everyday.

Here's a recent photo, though I prefer making photographs of people.

 

[_Refurbished_]

Isn't this just an example of "everything costs more these days" ?

Other companies are guilty of this too. Samsung's current flagship phones cost more than they ever have.

I don't remember the original Galaxy S at $700 or the original Galaxy Note at $950... for instance.

BTW... I'm not saying I'm happy about any of this. But what are ya gonna do.

There's always the option to not buy from Apple.

I agree, this isn’t an Apple problem. But the lost I responded to painted it as phones are as cheap as ever, which isn’t true.
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Bitterness haunts you both and I cannot empathize. Your inability to afford this ultra-premium modern marvel is clearly not a problem for Apple due to another round of record breaking sales. It's not like they jacked up the price of all their older phones when the X was launched. In fact, all of your needs can easily be met with more inexpensive models like the iP7,8 and the only thing you are missing out is the "iPX specific" tech & bragging rights.

Apple didn't force anyone's hand here, they made the iP8 for those they expected would be unwilling to accept the new top-tier pricing, had they not done this then I would understand the outrage. I simply had to change my fast food eating habits to afford this device (win-win) and I love every minute of it.

Bitterness haunts me? I didn’t complain once. States the current state of iPhone pricing nothing more, nothing less.

I returned my iPhone X a month after release for my iPhone 8. No envy here.