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Trump Plans to Ban TikTok From the U.S.
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I’d be fine keeping our stuff here. The rest of the world can enjoy what ever crap Samsung dumps out and we’ll be over here with all the good technology, space program, etc.
If you can use your political power against something like TikTok, you can use your political power by trying to save lives in your own country instead of having one of the highest deaths per capita in the world, as well as having the most deaths in the world overall.
‘But mah states riiiiights’
at the same time
‘Use your power to control private companies!!!!’
If you value the US, you can’t have it both ways buddy
I have no way of proving it in a forum, but it was a software product around big data, was developed on the US company’s time and then the code was literally stolen. This wasn’t “learning”.
it is possible to pursue though the courts, but the company learned the hard reality of suing in China. Remember this is the country that for many years had fake Apple Stores in many cities. Not sure if they were finally closed down or not.
Excellent. In return, China will require American company to sell assets to Chinese company or GTFO.
Well... the media said for years that Russia meddled with our elections... but some people still called it a hoax.
So which is it?
Do foreign powers meddle with our elections or not?
I have been wondering about this sort of cases. For example, a employee works for a company and wrote a software himself/herself for the company as his/her job. This software usually is considered the company's property. Now this employee stop working for the company and started his/her own company. He/She probably is capable of writing a similar software independently without having any documents/materials taken from the previous company. Would this kind of practice be considered IP theft in general? Will the judgment be based on how similar the software are? In your case, it seems to be very obvious as they even use the sale materials. But I am wondering about how things play out for the less obvious cases.
I have also thought about this in an academic/university setting. For example, a postdoc developed a new experimental method at one university and then move to another university. Does the postdoc violate the IP property if he/she uses the novel method he/she developed in the previous university at his/her new work place? What would be considered boundary of knowledge and IP property? Sometimes, a faculty may have joint appointment in several institutions. The boundary between knowledge and IP property is even more vague here.
I am genuinely curious about this and has asked the university about this. They look at me as if I am asking a insane and stupid question.
Good! China needs a beat down for what they did to us all with Covid.
I've read china invented gun powder too, think of all the deaths they did in USA.
Good decision. The American people can't be trusted to decide for ourselves if our own personal details, location data, and tik tok communications are of national security risk, and thus there has to be a blanket ban. As long as this is never used as an excuse to also decide we can't be trusted to own guns. Go Trump, making America great again, evil app by evil app. God bless the land of the free.
Oh yes the "evil foreign government government harvesting data" argument... Oh no they just "harvested" my credit card information and now I'm paying for the Chinese military.... Okay lets get back to reality. They're an ad based platform that "harvests data" just like Facebook and Google.
That seems to be a possibility. India did it this way. Or they may not allow the app in US app store. This could be easy to circumvent by users. They can order Google and Apple to remove TikTok from their App Store globally. Android users can still install from APK or other App Store, but iOS users will not be able to install TikTok. Or US government can list TikTok in their entity list and thus achieve similar outcome as banning from App Store globally.
Not sure what exactly US government intend to do it.
China has proper IP laws. However, protection is mostly for local companies only, while foreign companies are largely going to face heavy difficulties or largely ignored.
It’s somewhat similar here in Indonesia. Eg software piracy. Local companies/developers can get swift support from the government and law enforcement if their software is pirated. Meanwhile, we have stores openly selling pirated Microsoft software in malls, and Microsoft cannot do much about it.
TikTok is independent of Covid so perhaps any Covid discussion should be in the multiple Covid PRSI threads.
This has "MySpace" written all over it... you would think corporations would learn
Google...Google and Facebook.
Google...Google and Facebook.
for this move, I agree with Trump, it is a really trash app, as well as its Chinese Version called "Douyin (translated as Shaking Music)". the young kids insulated themselves with these trash apps and almost cut-off communication with friends, family etc.
Twitter is like the hub for gaming and esports and music and a lot of stuff, if anything ban political **** from the sites instead. Or perhaps just actually punish people for extreme hate comments and activity...for a change.
It’s interesting that wikileaks / snowdon pointed out that every US tech company had been compelled to give data to the US government/CIA secretly. A fact that they couldn’t even admit legally even though there were tons of documents detailing what was happening.
At the same time China publicly admits that all of their companies have the same commitment to the state.
it’s pretty much the same thing right? The USA via homeland security was looking at foreign data collected by US based tech companies.
I think the bigger issue here is more that China doesn’t even let American companies play ball in their country limiting the data acquisition capabilities the US government is normally privy to.
Personally I just assume every country spies on every country. There is no honour amongst thieves etc. I’d be shocked if they didn’t. I would be asking what are we paying taxes for if you DONT do that? it just seems that this a bit of PR game being played.
America wants China to give proper access to its markets. And it’s attacking as many of its businesses as it can to get that to happen. The problem is the countries are in a deadly embrace as China owns the most American debt and is practically its factory producing most American tech goods. On top of that America has gone to war with China in a proxy fashion a number of times and basically lost (Korea, Vietnam etc.). This is not a country you can tell what to do.
the only real answer is to work with them or cut them out of your economy. And I just don’t know how they work with them given the security issues that are brewing let alone this tik tok rubbish (south China sea, Taiwan, Hong Kong etc).
this whole thing needs a serious non partisan strategy by serious politicians beyond whoever is president.
At the same time China publicly admits that all of their companies have the same commitment to the state.
it’s pretty much the same thing right? The USA via homeland security was looking at foreign data collected by US based tech companies.
I think the bigger issue here is more that China doesn’t even let American companies play ball in their country limiting the data acquisition capabilities the US government is normally privy to.
Personally I just assume every country spies on every country. There is no honour amongst thieves etc. I’d be shocked if they didn’t. I would be asking what are we paying taxes for if you DONT do that? it just seems that this a bit of PR game being played.
America wants China to give proper access to its markets. And it’s attacking as many of its businesses as it can to get that to happen. The problem is the countries are in a deadly embrace as China owns the most American debt and is practically its factory producing most American tech goods. On top of that America has gone to war with China in a proxy fashion a number of times and basically lost (Korea, Vietnam etc.). This is not a country you can tell what to do.
the only real answer is to work with them or cut them out of your economy. And I just don’t know how they work with them given the security issues that are brewing let alone this tik tok rubbish (south China sea, Taiwan, Hong Kong etc).
this whole thing needs a serious non partisan strategy by serious politicians beyond whoever is president.
That would need to be done in a well planed manner (not trumps stong suit), as quite a few buisnesses and citizens would be negatively impacted once the ban was in place, there needs to be time to find alternatives, and as we know very changes something they feel works unless they have to .