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TSA Pre√ and Global Entry have paid for themselves in time savings so many times over.

Ways to make money that the public won't complain about.....

1) Artificially create a huge queue.
2) Ask for payment to jump the queue.

Public who have the cash gain an illusion of safety whilst Uncle Sam gains a pocket full of cash. Win-win.
 
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Shoes off? Wow! :eek: Is that because they're steel-capped?

You've had to put laptops in a tray in Australia too for as long as I can remember (10-15 years or more) but never understood why. You can at least have other things in the same tray.

My guess is it's to improve detection rates which seem to be quite poor based on the limited anecdotal evidence here. I've been pulled up a few times correctly and only once incorrectly (false positive) for a portable shaver, so the system seems to work ok in Australia.
Putting laptops in trays has been the norm in the USA for a very long time unless you have Precheck status. This new "feature", AFAICT, is better automation of the whole process. It's the separation of various electronics thats going to be emphasized going forward.
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Actually Global Entry is the better deal. Same 5 year span, includes TSA PreCheck, and expedites your process through customs... for only $10 more.
Yes, Global Entry is the better deal ($15 more) but I can attest that it's a much more lengthy process to get approved. The real difference is the biometrics (electronic finger prints as of now) required for the electronic immigration process to work.
 
Try working in a company that sells to military. I pray I didn't pick up any explosive residue on the bases, a few colleagues have had the experience of triggering the alarm and missing their flights after being grilled with questions.

Same trick can be done with Sublingual GTN spray (what angina patients carry). Spray it on a friends bag to ensure every hole is checked when travelling.
 
I don't care one way or the other for the TSA, I've personally never had a problem with them. However, you did not bother to even try to answer the issue of what prevents someone from becoming an extremist during the five year period? Nothing as far as I can see, so basically at that point it's simply generating money because it sure isn't making anyone safer.
If you get yourself onto some kind of watchlist, I bet your PreCheck status will be revoked in a New York minute.
 
How far behind is the US? Every airport I've flown through in Europe, Africa, Middle East and Asia for the last 4 years has required everything bigger than a phone to be placed in a bin with nothing on top or underneath it.

It used to be the requirement to remove your laptop and power it on at security 20 years ago, in the U.S. of A. Sounds like we're just returning to that scenario.
 
Why is TSA still a thing? Weren't they proven to be useless at catching weapons etc.? like 95% of weapons were never detected during a study carried out some time ago. Why the hell are they adding extra screening procedures when there hasn't been any attacks carried out by terrorists **** knows how long.


I agree, since they have been successful in preventing any attacks, we can now sit back and relax. Start with eliminating TSA as you suggest and in the meantime it's crazy to be thinking of new ways terrorists might blow up planes. It's more efficient to wait until they blow something up, then we can more justifiably react to their new tactics. It may require that thousands die, but at least we won't be wasting money on preventing attacks that the terrorists hadn't yet figured out how to carry out.
 
I agree, since they have been successful in preventing any attacks, we can now sit back and relax. Start with eliminating TSA as you suggest and in the meantime it's crazy to be thinking of new ways terrorists might blow up planes. It's more efficient to wait until they blow something up, then we can more justifiably react to their new tactics. It may require that thousands die, but at least we won't be wasting money on preventing attacks that the terrorists hadn't yet figured out how to carry out.
You seem to think TSA is the sole proprietor of airport security. What world are you living in?
 
Ways to make money that the public won't complain about.....

1) Artificially create a huge queue.
2) Ask for payment to jump the queue.

Public who have the cash gain an illusion of safety whilst Uncle Sam gains a pocket full of cash. Win-win.

If you look at my other comment in this thread you'll find that I'm also no fan of the TSA in its current form.
 
I had to do this when I flew in May and June and it made these SOOOOOOOOO slow. I couldn't even go through the detector when it was my turn because I had wait additional time to ensure I was able to personally push my stuff through the xray because most people had 3-4 bins each plus their actual carry-on
 
This is how they do it in the UK. I always have to take my Kindle out of my bag going through security there.

Yes, I learned this in France this year. I thought it was a fluke each time the agent found another one of my devices, and he got angrier and angrier at each one. It didn't sink in enough after that every device needs to come out.

I'm an American, if there's stuff I'm supposed to know someone would have told me about it already, right?
 
How to make easy money?
1. Create a scare for the public
2. Develop a way to inconvenience the public based on no 1
3. Create a for-pay program to bypass no 2
4. ...
5. Profit!
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I do not agree with any of the "security measures" put in place after 9/11. it is just a way for the government to put their nose where it don't belong.... in your personal life.
If you didn't put up those security measures, how are you going to convince the public to be afraid?
 
Seeing as how my girlfriend forgot her pocket knife in her purse and was able to board 3 out of our 4 flights without being pulled aside, I already do not trust the TSA to "protect" me. All these "safety measures" seemingly just make my experience flying more inconvenient.

Pocket knives aren't what they are worried about.
 
How about the screwdrivers that I forgot to take out of my bag and got em through every single time? Can I still get those though? #SafetyFirst

My girlfriend and I were traveling with a straight up knife.
We had been camping about a month prior and it somehow ended up in her handbag.
She found out days after our flight because she misplaced her phone and emptied her handbag during the search.
 
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Why is TSA still a thing? Weren't they proven to be useless at catching weapons etc.? like 95% of weapons were never detected during a study carried out some time ago. Why the hell are they adding extra screening procedures when there hasn't been any attacks carried out by terrorists **** knows how long.

Yes, in Minneapolis.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/6/tsa-failed-detect-95-percent-prohibited-items-minn/

But look at the bright side - at least Boise, Idaho has implemented the process. I feel waaaaay safer now.
 
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I'd love it if those that hate on TSA, because they were jedi mind tricked into it most probably, to have a separate line and board with no safety checks. No infringing on their freedoms! I bet there wouldn't be to many takers. lol.
I'd take it in a New York minute. TSA is mostly a useless annoyance chasing after ghosts. I used to mostly enjoy flying before 9/11 and all the excess security BS. Fortunately, now that I'm retired, I rarely need to fly anymore. If they'd just have you walk through the x-ray machines without disrobing, taking off shoes, unpacking bags, confiscating fingernail clippers, etc., it would be tolerable and catch about the same number of terrorists they catch now - next to zero.
 
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