Or becoming radicalized but going and getting the pre-screening done before they make too much of a noticeable splash, and then having five years of reduced security checks available (aka bad guys thinking ahead).
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TSA Implementing New Screening Procedures for All Electronics 'Larger Than a Cell Phone'
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Best 85 dollars I ever spent was getting TSA PreCheck takes less then 15 minutes to get through Airport Security. Usually 5 or less at Newark NJ (EWR) with the redesigned auto feed x-ray machines.
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Getting PreCheck or Global Entry requires fingerprints and a back ground check.
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Getting PreCheck or Global Entry requires fingerprints and a back ground check.
Nope. No takers, but your premise is confusing the notion of government (in the form of the TSA) with the concept of security. Those two are similar to some degree but are not always exactly the same. We had security prior to the government taking over airport security. We have security after they took over. The difference - and where many of us get rankled - is the trend of government organizations constantly expanding to continue demonstrating their value... regardless of the value actually provided.
A private organization could say "we're good... we catch 99.9% of the bad things at a cost of $X. Increasing that to 99.99% would cost $3x so it's not a financially viable approach."
The government says "Damn. We're catching 99.9% of the bad things. Quick... what can we envision to justify spending $5x?".
This trend is demonstrable in virtually every government organization at the federal, state and local levels. THAT is the problem.
So you guys are just anti government, regardless. Gotcha. You know where there isn't a lot of government intervention, third world countries. Feel free to visit one and see how evil our government is. lol.
I think everyone in the TSA should be able to pass a Navy PT test before they can dictate counter terrorism rules.
Well... I'm 50+ now, but as a kid had the privilege of traveling with my Dad a few times. Mostly on Frontier and Braniff. I remember being treated like a king on those flight. Got a tour of the cockpit, including getting to sit in the co-pilot seat and my own set of wings. Food was served on china. Drinks were served in glass. Seats were more spread out. Everyone dressed up because flying was a privilege and not yet a commodity. THAT was fun!
TSA seems to hire the lowest of the low on average. I find it difficult being bossed around and groped by people I've spent nearly my entire life trying to avoid.
Actually, I've been to some of those countries. Places where you had to talk to military guards carrying large-caliber weapons before getting into the terminal and again before getting on a plane. THEY have real security without all of the high-cost theatrics.
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Actually, it's about neither. PreCheck is about balancing Risk. If you are willing to go through the background check you are much less likely to be a threat. Simple as that. It's no different than your car insurance company doing a credit check. People who manage their create are less likely to file claims. Doesn't mean 'wont'... it means 'less likely'. Therefore, reduced risk.
Once you apply you are tracked and probably in every database thus making tracking easy and finding you even easier. And while nothing prevents anyone from "snapping" my guess is the government did their homework.
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oh it hasn't ben fun for quite sometime. Unless you are traveling international first class, the thought of going into an airplane and being cramped in tiny seats for hours among rude people is something I never look forward to.
I can say that the money is worth it to me and my family. We all have it, me, my wife and my two sons (17 and 20). Pros: shorter lines, keep your shoes on, keep belt on, leave everything in your carry on. You still have to run your stuff through the scanner, and they sometimes pull you out of the line to do a spot check (never has happened to us yet). Cons: The $85. I agree that you could become an extremist, but if you happen to land on the no-fly or selectee list, you won't get TSA Pre on your next boarding pass. There is a lot of logic in the determination when you check in for your BP.
I personally know someone that accidentally left a loaded revolver in her purse and went right through TSA security, flew on her flight, and she didn’t even realize it until she was at her destination and saw the gun in her purse.
I don’t have much faith in the TSA and I also don’t have any faith in her being a responsible gun owner.
I don’t have much faith in the TSA and I also don’t have any faith in her being a responsible gun owner.
Agreed. Prior to the Reagan era air travel was a lot of fun. Arrive 30 minutes before you flight, check you bags all the way to your destination (didn't matter if you flew on 3 airlines, the bags would get there). Sit down for a reasonable meal with metal utensils in seats that reclined and were relatively wide.
The cost was a lot higher. $800 for LA to Chicago one way. Kept a lot of families with kids from traveling and people actually dressed nice. Few jean and t-shirts, no pajama bottoms. Plane took off 1/2 full, almost never more than 3/4 full.
All Global entry members can use the Nexus lines and machines for re-entry into the US. I have one of their little cards but have never used it because I forget to bring it when I drive to Vancouver and back.
Global Entry members can also use the SENTRI line re-entering from Mexico.
I just flew Saturday the 15th and Sunday the 23rd. I had to take my iPad out of my carry on. I cannot remember where I had to do this and on what date, but it was either RDU (Raleigh) or CLT (Charlotte). Neither are listed in the pilot.... I thought it was odd as I do not remember doing it before. I had to do it all the time for my laptop. Anyone know why I would of had to do it if the Airport was not part of the pilot and I flew before today?
And we were served by stewardesses in short skirts and white gloves. Not going back there, fairly sure.
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Yeah, the 1970s.
Because there was a huge outcry that private companies don't have proper standards and aren't adequately regulated, and only the fed can do things right. (Gruber was one of those voices, so long ago). Every time any problem was reported there was a hue and cry, "See? It's obvious this should be under government control." Which is why the post office is so much better than FedEx and UPS. However, the rest of your rant is stupid. You see the success of the screenings and foolishly think it means nobody was trying. It's like the age-old line by the CIA: everyone knows about their failures, no one knows about their successes.
Would not be surprised if those Saudi guys responsible for 911 had finger print checks and background checks before they were issued visa's to enter the US.