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tvOS 11.2 beta

I’m on the latest beta and I can’t HDR in Netflix anymore only Ultra 4K. I still get HDR in my iTunes movies just not Netflix for some reason.
 
tvOS 11.2 beta 5 Build 15K5105a released today.

According to the release notes:

Video Playback

Resolved Issues

• Video playback of HDR content in certain scenarios no longer shows video artifacts such as banding and contouring. (35569849)

Home Screen

Resolved Issues

  • Apple TV now sleeps as expected after exiting video playback. (35251612)

  • Swiping between apps in App Switcher no longer results in poor responsiveness. (34921226)
 
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I have an Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI using Apples recommended Belkin High Speed HDMI cable directly to my Sony X800D TV. Video settings are set to 4K SDR 4:4:4. (This issue occurs in 4:2:0 as well.)

I've been having this issue since I updated to tvOS 11.1 (Same issue on tvOS 11.2 b5). After waking up my Apple TV from sleep I get no video in Directv Now , Netflix and Hulu. Audio works just fine and I hear it playing while my TV shows a black screen. When I exit the apps back to the Home screen my TV displays the menu just fine. Only when trying to watch video I get a black screen. A restart of the device fixes the issue temporarily but it comes back in a few hours after the Apple TV has been woken again. Something I find odd is that YouTube works fine.. probably because it doesn't require HDCP?

Since I assumed this was a HDCP compatibility issue with my HDMI cables, I purchased Apples recommended Belkin High Speed HDMI Cable which is HDCP 2.2 compatible but the same issue occurs.

I could not figure out why this issue happens and I only noticed it happening after the tvOS 11.1 update. I'm running out of ideas. Anyone have a solution?
 
punkdthrice said:
I have an Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI using Apples recommended Belkin High Speed HDMI cable directly to my Sony X800D TV. Video settings are set to 4K SDR 4:4:4. (This issue occurs in 4:2:0 as well.)

I've been having this issue since I updated to tvOS 11.1 (Same issue on tvOS 11.2 b5). After waking up my Apple TV from sleep I get no video in Directv Now , Netflix and Hulu. Audio works just fine and I hear it playing while my TV shows a black screen. When I exit the apps back to the Home screen my TV displays the menu just fine. Only when trying to watch video I get a black screen. A restart of the device fixes the issue temporarily but it comes back in a few hours after the Apple TV has been woken again. Something I find odd is that YouTube works fine.. probably because it doesn't require HDCP?

Since I assumed this was a HDCP compatibility issue with my HDMI cables, I purchased Apples recommended Belkin High Speed HDMI Cable which is HDCP 2.2 compatible but the same issue occurs.

I could not figure out why this issue happens and I only noticed it happening after the tvOS 11.1 update. I'm running out of ideas. Anyone have a solution?
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Yeah, I got the green/black screen of no video on DRM content. I had it on and off between betas. Works fine again in the latest beta.
 
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Is Dolby Vision working for anyone with an LG 2017 OLED (B7A here) and the latest 11.2b5? DV worked for me in 11.1, but since 11.2b5 it doesnt.
 
How long has Netflix support in the TV app been a thing? It's there for me now and working great.
 
Hoosier317 said:
Wow...what an overpriced cable. Not Monster Cable level insanity, but still.
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Surely, at 30dollars, it's not an expensive cable if it works well over the next 2 or 4 years? If a TV is £1000 upwards and ATV £200, why would anyone be so crazy to buy a cheap HDMI lead to connect the two together? Surely, that's like buying cheap, skinny tyres for a Ferrari?
Plus for attention to designs guys like myself, the recommended lead matches the design of the power lead. Most people may not care about that, but most people may not appreciate all of the 'little things' added to Apple design! Having great design all the way is beautiful as it shows that a design team truly cares about what they do - it shows that they are passionate!
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oneMadRssn said:
I really don't understand why anyone buys anything other than Monoprice cables:

Certified 18Gbps cable, 6ft for $3: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15427
Certified 18Gbps slim cable, 6ft for $3: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=24187

I use the slim one personally, but both have hundreds of 5star reviews.
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Being honest, I hate anything cheap because it means that someone or something has suffered in order to make something so cheap. And I don't like that. Maybe the company uses cheap, badly sourced, environment damaging materials, maybe it uses child labour, maybe workers are treat badly and paid a pittance. There's no such thing as cheap. To me, being ethical is the most important thing in the world and I'm incredibly aware of his business operates and were I spend my money.
 
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BODYBUILDERPAUL said:
Surely, at 30dollars, it's not an expensive cable if it works well over the next 2 or 4 years? If a TV is £1000 upwards and ATV £200, why would anyone be so crazy to buy a cheap HDMI lead to connect the two together? Surely, that's like buying cheap, skinny tyres for a Ferrari?
Plus for attention to designs guys like myself, the recommended lead matches the design of the power lead. Most people may not care about that, but most people may not appreciate all of the 'little things' added to Apple design! Having great design all the way is beautiful as it shows that a design team truly cares about what they do - it shows that they are passionate!
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No, more expensive HDMI cables do not possess any special features, abilities or qualities. Less expensive cables offer equal performance. Your tire/Ferrari analogy is not even remotely relevant. Absolutely nothing about the $30 Belkin HDMI cable is better than the $3 Monoprice alternative.
 
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BODYBUILDERPAUL said:
Surely, at 30dollars, it's not an expensive cable if it works well over the next 2 or 4 years? If a TV is £1000 upwards and ATV £200, why would anyone be so crazy to buy a cheap HDMI lead to connect the two together? Surely, that's like buying cheap, skinny tyres for a Ferrari?
Plus for attention to designs guys like myself, the recommended lead matches the design of the power lead. Most people may not care about that, but most people may not appreciate all of the 'little things' added to Apple design! Having great design all the way is beautiful as it shows that a design team truly cares about what they do - it shows that they are passionate!
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Being honest, I hate anything cheap because it means that someone or something has suffered in order to make something so cheap. And I don't like that. Maybe the company uses cheap, badly sourced, environment damaging materials, maybe it uses child labour, maybe workers are treat badly and paid a pittance. There's no such thing as cheap. To me, being ethical is the most important thing in the world and I'm incredibly aware of his business operates and were I spend my money.
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The price doesn't mean it's better. It's an illusion. Many things, expensive and cheap, are the same exact item, made by the same exact company. One just puts their fancy logo on it and charges more. That's it.

So no, it doesn't mean anything suffered to make it. Companies would love for you to think that so you spend more money. But really they're just making you a sucker.

Most consumer appliance brands are actually made by one company. Same goes for exercise equipment. Almost all the treadmill brands are made by the same company. Quality is the same. Logos are different.
There's a security camera developed by ismartalarm that I own. Retails for $100. 2 other companies are selling the exact same camera, even with the ismartalarm logo, for $25. The same item!
I could go on and on. You most likely end up just paying for the name.
 
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BODYBUILDERPAUL said:
Being honest, I hate anything cheap because it means that someone or something has suffered in order to make something so cheap. And I don't like that. Maybe the company uses cheap, badly sourced, environment damaging materials, maybe it uses child labour, maybe workers are treat badly and paid a pittance. There's no such thing as cheap. To me, being ethical is the most important thing in the world and I'm incredibly aware of his business operates and were I spend my money.
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I'm with you, 100%. But I think it's naive to think that with a basic commodity like an HDMI cable spending extra goes to higher factory worker wages or higher quality materials.

First, the likely difference between a $30 HDMI cable and a $3 HDMI cable is an extra $25 in profits going to the executives and shareholders of the company; and maybe $2 to cover the additional marketing and stuff, which does employ some people. But in terms of a factory worker, I doubt there is any difference. The copper inside the cable, the shielding, the connectors, the plastic, etc., I wouldn't be surprised if those are made at neighboring factories in Shenzhen.

Second, I can tell you from experience that the Monoprice cables are as high quality as anything you can get - people with ridiculous $20k+ home theater systems swear by them too, and those people don't cheap out on anything. It's a US-based company. I don't know where their cables are made, probably China, but their engineering is good and so is their customer support.
 
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oneMadRssn said:
I'm with you, 100%. But I think it's naive to think that with a basic commodity like an HDMI cable spending extra goes to higher factory worker wages or higher quality materials.

First, the likely difference between a $30 HDMI cable and a $3 HDMI cable is an extra $25 in profits going to the executives and shareholders of the company; and maybe $2 to cover the additional marketing and stuff, which does employ some people. But in terms of a factory worker, I doubt there is any difference. The copper inside the cable, the shielding, the connectors, the plastic, etc., I wouldn't be surprised if those are made at neighboring factories in Shenzhen.
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This is a generalization in another direction. It is not just about greed of "fat bastards" along the food chain.
Cheap chinese products are cheap for a reason. Lesser materials, less (or no) R&D, less (or no) QA, less (or no) goowdill and marketing.
Heck, that High-Speed cable costs $0.3 ex factory: https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...d-Supports-wholesale-premium_60424437644.html

I am not saying, thay a $30 cable is 100 times better. but when going the cheapest route you take some of the not done tasks (like QA) and finding a product whose quality of materials and craftsmanship meet your needs, by solid and reliable supplier, onto your own shoulders. If one knows and is willing to accept this, no problem. With a more expensive product from a reputable supplier, you have more guarantee that these issues have been taken care of.

Just for fun - try to disassemble some $17 and $35 Chinese Apple In-Ear Headphones, that originally retail for $79. See for yourself, if these price differences come from the sheer bastardness of Apple or if the Chinese have "optimized" the product to meet the price point.

The bottom line - there is nothing wrong with getting a cheaper product (esp if the vendor is well known and reputable), but you must be prepared for a chance to get crap. And there are usually more aspects to the price differences, than meets the eye.

Even in a seemingly simple product like HDMI cable, there are minute details that affect the price. Whether they are relevant to you, is of course a private matter.
 
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priitv8 said:
This is a generalization in another direction. It is not just about greed of "fat bastards" along the food chain.
Cheap chinese products are cheap for a reason. Lesser materials, less (or no) R&D, less (or no) QA, less (or no) goowdill and marketing.
Heck, that High-Speed cable costs $0.3 ex factory: https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...d-Supports-wholesale-premium_60424437644.html

I am not saying, thay a $30 cable is 100 times better. but when going the cheapest route you take some of the not done tasks (like QA) and finding a product whose quality of materials and craftsmanship meet your needs, by solid and reliable supplier, onto your own shoulders. If one knows and is willing to accept this, no problem. With a more expensive product from a reputable supplier, you have more guarantee that these issues have been taken care of.

Just for fun - try to disassemble some $17 and $35 Chinese Apple In-Ear Headphones, that originally retail for $79. See for yourself, if these price differences come from the sheer bastardness of Apple or if the Chinese have "optimized" the product to meet the price point.

The bottom line - there is nothing wrong with getting a cheaper product (esp if the vendor is well known and reputable), but you must be prepared for a chance to get crap. And there are usually more aspects to the price differences, than meets the eye.

Even in a seemingly simple product like HDMI cable, there are minute details that affect the price. Whether they are relevant to you, is of course a private matter.
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People can spend their money how they want. It’s just important that everyone is clear that there is zero difference in picture quality between cheap mono price cable and a cable which costs £5000. So long as the picture is free from defects (e.g. sparklies, picture drop outs) then the cheap cable is every bit as functional as the more expensive cable. Also, I’m confident in saying than many cables more expensive than the mono price cable will simply not work with 4k hdr material at 60hz.
 
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It’s just important that everyone is clear that there is zero difference in picture quality between cheap mono price cable and a cable which costs £5000. So long as the picture is free from defects (e.g. sparklies, picture drop outs) then the cheap cable is every bit as functional as the more expensive cable.
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I am sure that the monoprice cable is best bang for the buck. Respect and kudos to them for that.
Still, I would not dare to state in general, that "there is zero difference in picture quality between cheap and expensive cable". Unless I am absolutely sure that their energy propagation (wire, welding to plug, plug contacts) and crosstalk/noise immunity (shielding, twisted pairing) properties are absolutely identical.

My main argument in this discussion is - there really are reasons behind cheap products. Nothing comes free in this world.
I do not vote for statement like "the expensive products are so just because of the greedy attitude of their providers".
If you take your time, find a good balance between what you give and what you get, and have made a conscious decision, then everything is well. Be happy and move on.

Sorry for being totally off-topic here. So let's return to tvOS 11.2 beta discussion...
 
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jaysue said:
Are you getting it in the actual tv app? Cause I know you can search in the app and get results.
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furbzv1 said:
you sure it was netflix? i don't see it on my end
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Perhaps it has always been this way then? For example, searching for Black Mirror, within the TV app, brings up all the seasons detail pages, with the option of playing in Netflix. One click fires up the episode in question within Netflix.
 
priitv8 said:
This is a generalization in another direction. It is not just about greed of "fat bastards" along the food chain.
Cheap chinese products are cheap for a reason. Lesser materials, less (or no) R&D, less (or no) QA, less (or no) goowdill and marketing.
Heck, that High-Speed cable costs $0.3 ex factory: https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...d-Supports-wholesale-premium_60424437644.html

I am not saying, thay a $30 cable is 100 times better. but when going the cheapest route you take some of the not done tasks (like QA) and finding a product whose quality of materials and craftsmanship meet your needs, by solid and reliable supplier, onto your own shoulders. If one knows and is willing to accept this, no problem. With a more expensive product from a reputable supplier, you have more guarantee that these issues have been taken care of.

Just for fun - try to disassemble some $17 and $35 Chinese Apple In-Ear Headphones, that originally retail for $79. See for yourself, if these price differences come from the sheer bastardness of Apple or if the Chinese have "optimized" the product to meet the price point.

The bottom line - there is nothing wrong with getting a cheaper product (esp if the vendor is well known and reputable), but you must be prepared for a chance to get crap. And there are usually more aspects to the price differences, than meets the eye.

Even in a seemingly simple product like HDMI cable, there are minute details that affect the price. Whether they are relevant to you, is of course a private matter.
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I'm not talking about any cheapo HDMI cable though. I was talking about Monoprice. It's both very inexpensive and high quality. They also sell active HDMI cables with all the bells and whistles you can ever want, and they're still much less expensive.
 
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