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Twitter Officially Bans All Third-Party Apps [Update]

GizmoDVD said:
Great angle!

now less people will use your platform.

This guy is a genius
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Twitter is the forth most visited website worldwide, shutting down some api won't change a thing people will still use the official app or a web browser. Twitter is still the best platform to get local news and updates from local businesses no account needed unlike Facebook and Instagram.
 
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Wildkraut said:
🤪 You probably just seeked and joined the wrong server. Mastodon is federated but decent servers are moderated.

Anyway, the internet is full of child porn, you better delete all your internet browsers. /s
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I always wonder how these people "stumble" on lots of child porn. I've been using the internet and may of its shadier sites since the mid 90's and the most "child porn" I've EVER seen is a 16yo posting up saying they are 18+, which is usually quickly found and taken down.

I feel like 90% of these "found tons of child porn" people are either lying, repeating random BS stories they hear or are themselves are specifically looking for it just to say "OMG i just found this!" as if it just presented itself to them and they didn't spend 6+hrs literally hunting it.

Then again I've seen people claim they find child porn all the time just because they found a tag on a porn site for 18-19yo girls. The idea that you can be a teen and legal blows peoples minds.
 
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So you all don't care despite 21 pages of comments. A lot of secret Twitter users on this thread aren't there ;)
 
LeeW said:
So you all don't care despite 21 pages of comments. A lot of secret Twitter users on this thread aren't there ;)
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We don’t care about Twitter. We do care about Space Karen being a hypocrite and calling him out as such (in his world, that’s free speech).

And we also do care about him allowing volatile groups to flourish, banning journalists from doing their job, and causing two and possibly three companies to tank, that could have serious economic repercussions.

But yeah, make this about secret Twitter users. :rolleyes:

BL.
 
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darkpaw said:
Yeah, it's an unpopular opinion probably because you've missed a massive, obvious point. If particular third-party apps were causing spam on the platform Twitter could've revoked access to those particular apps. Instead, they blatted the entire ecosystem of third-party apps. This is throwing the baby out with the bathwater territory.
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Bingo. Also, banning 3rd party apps isn't about ad revenue either. They want you to use their app so that they can collect data and sell it. Because ads could have been inserted into the API and they could have adjusted the pricing for access to the API (yes, of course Devs have to pay for it). But you can not collect data on people if they are not using your app.
 
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On a more positive note, the Tweetbot developers, Tapbots, have been bouncing back from the loss as they're making and about to release a sweet Mastodon client called Ivory. Perhaps this and other iOS Mastodon clients being made as the Twitter clients shutter may cause some Twitter users to migrate? Who knows, tbh.
 
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iDarth_Betar said:
Most third party Twit developers just keep making minor changes to their apps and charging again and again for “new” versions.

Couldn’t care less about Elon or Twitter, don’t use it. But glad to see Tweetbot and others get what they deserve.

Think I left Twitter when Tweetbot was on its 3rd-4th version and not much changed from one to the other, but the dev charged $5 each time. Now it has a sub. 🙄 What’s it on now, v7? Stupid.

Update: at this pace, I’ll never beat my disagree record of 90+. Step it up, all.
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A friend told me he would down-vote you but he blocked you. So consider mine two.
 
NYCValkyrie said:
Devs have to pay to use the API, which is revenue. Why do so many of you not know this if you're going to talk about it? I thought you guys did your own research?

Musk could have also easily just updated the API to include ads but he chose scorched earth instead. At the very least, it should have been a wind down of the service and giving the apps & Devs like a day or two notice. That's it. All this could have been avoided but he either really has no clue about business or this is his plan to get to bankruptcy. Can't wait for the Saudi's to call in their chips.
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I never claimed they don't pay for the API, but it still pales in comparison to the $$ they would make from ad revenue.
 
Premium1 said:
I never claimed they don't pay for the API, but it still pales in comparison to the $$ they would make from ad revenue.
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You literally said:

How does him not allowing 3rd party apps (which bring in no revenue).
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That is a direct C&P of what you wrote in your post. lol.

And you can't make ad revenue w/o advertisers which are quickly dropping Twitter due to his very poor choices in how he's running it into the ground. And if it was about ad revenue, you can insert ads into the 3rd party API. It's not hard.

What he's doing is aggregating users to 1st party apps & web so that he can collect data & sell it. He's already lost the ad revenue game, estimated $1.18B in total rev and losing active users every day. And you think banning use of 3rd party apps is going to drive users to a platform on already thin ice with those users? LMAO. All he's left with is to sell user data to bad actors.
 
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Open-Source-Norange said:
On a more positive note, the Tweetbot developers, Tapbots, have been bouncing back from the loss as they're making and about to release a sweet Mastodon client called Ivory. Perhaps this and other iOS Mastodon clients being made as the Twitter clients shutter may cause some Twitter users to migrate? Who knows, tbh.
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What makes me skeptical of Mastodon is that it is decentralized. There isn't a clear set of T&C across all the servers. And a server owner has access to everything the users on their server post, including private messages, etc. Also, if they ever decided to delete their server, your account is gone. So I'm holding off for now until there's more discussion & resolution around this.

What I'm super curious about is Jack Dosey's Blue Sky project. I'm hoping he takes what he learned from Twitter and makes something better.
 
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NYCValkyrie said:
What makes me skeptical of Mastodon is that it is decentralized. There isn't a clear set of T&C across all the servers. And a server owner has access to everything the users on their server post, including private messages, etc. Also, if they ever decided to delete their server, your account is gone. So I'm holding off for now until there's more discussion & resolution around this.

What I'm super curious about is Jack Dosey's Blue Sky project. I'm hoping he takes what he learned from Twitter and makes something better.
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I complete understand your qualms about Mastodon. Even as an avid user of it, I still know of quite a few instances and various admins that are closed off and ban happy. If you piss the wrong dude off in certain places, off you go. That and since these servers are maintained by either one dude or a small team, it can be worrying to how they handle your data. But then again, that data trade off is something applying to any social media, be it Mastodon or Twitter.

Blue Sky…honestly, I don’t know what to say of that project. The internet has changed a lot since Twitter was founded and a lot of promising social medias and platforms have gone up and died off because no one is willing to fully jump off the big boys. That and making MONEY off these platforms is one of the biggest hurdles too. Vid.me, Vine, countless freaking Twitter clones, they all failed cause they couldn’t attract enough people or sponsors to even keep the lights on. The biggest reason Mastodon isn’t on this pile is precisely because keeping decentralized means the costs of upkeep goes to the admin AND also because instances could cater to certain niches instead of the shotgun approach of trying to attract everyone to the platform.
 
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Open-Source-Norange said:
I complete understand your qualms about Mastodon. Even as an avid user of it, I still know of quite a few instances and various admins that are closed off and ban happy. If you piss the wrong dude off in certain places, off you go. That and since these servers are maintained by either one dude or a small team, it can be worrying to how they handle your data. But then again, that data trade off is something applying to any social media, be it Mastodon or Twitter.

Blue Sky…honestly, I don’t know what to say of that project. The internet has changed a lot since Twitter was founded and a lot of promising social medias and platforms have gone up and died off because no one is willing to fully jump off the big boys. That and making MONEY off these platforms is one of the biggest hurdles too. Vid.me, Vine, countless freaking Twitter clones, they all failed cause they couldn’t attract enough people or sponsors to even keep the lights on. The biggest reason Mastodon isn’t on this pile is precisely because keeping decentralized means the costs of upkeep goes to the admin AND also because instances could cater to certain niches instead of the shotgun approach of trying to attract everyone to the platform.
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I appreciate this take. RE: tradeoff on data - at least Twitter (used to) have a team in place and there was some oversight/scrutiny into privacy because it was a publicly traded co. That certainly doesn't exist now.

I'm not sure there's going to be a social media app to rival what FB/IG/Twitter used to be since all 3 are losing users and no one trusts any of them. I do think Social Media will evolve into something else, I'm not sure what. Dorsy is kinda douchy but I do think he means well and wants to put something positive out. No one can control what happens once something is put out into the world for people to use (and abuse).

I do miss what Twitter was though, that is no lie. I had a community there and made real, lifelong friends that I never would have met otherwise in its early innocent days. We've all quit at this point and just have a mass text chain. haha.
 
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Sad (former) Tweetbot for iOS user here.

Considered giving up Twitter altogether, but I'm trying out the regular app now.

Why can't I see replies to Tweets in the iOS app? For example, I see that 5 people have replied to the tweet, but how do I read those??
 
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NYCValkyrie said:
You literally said:



That is a direct C&P of what you wrote in your post. lol.

And you can't make ad revenue w/o advertisers which are quickly dropping Twitter due to his very poor choices in how he's running it into the ground. And if it was about ad revenue, you can insert ads into the 3rd party API. It's not hard.

What he's doing is aggregating users to 1st party apps & web so that he can collect data & sell it. He's already lost the ad revenue game, estimated $1.18B in total rev and losing active users every day. And you think banning use of 3rd party apps is going to drive users to a platform on already thin ice with those users? LMAO. All he's left with is to sell user data to bad actors.
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If people cared about their user data tiktok wouldn't be as huge as it is. Musk can sell that data (which many other companies do the same) and 99% of the population won't even blink (sadly).
 
SUGAR RAY WONKA said:
Twitter has ALWAYS limited what the API provides to third parties, in exchange for payment

Ads were not part of the API despite your claims to the contrary

All of this BS is on Twitter, and their now obvious goalpost moving shenanigans
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Yeah you don't understand what I'm saying, clearly. Oh well. The Twitter website and the Twitter iOS clients are API consumers, therefore the ads HAVE TO BE part of the API, because where the hell else are they coming from? A little bird carries them from Twitter HQ to your phone?
 
NYCValkyrie said:
Which one and what's his involvement? Is this a "trust me bro" post?
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Most likely.

I’ve check Nostr out and from my understanding, it’s basically trying to be the Fediverse. It just looks more convoluted to use.
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