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Hmmmm.... by loyalists standards, it is a gimmick. According them, specs don't matter. And another thing, I'm pretty sure you know what I mean when I say Android OEMs. So again, nice try. The best thing for loyalists to do is just admit they're incredibly bias, and will always trash android OEMs and their devices regardless of how amazing they are. That way when you get your iPhablet you won't have to hide the fact you bought the very thing you were mocking Samsung about.

Nice try? its the same thing. Let me break it down.

5" phone is too big! -> Buys a phablet, enjoys said large screen phone.
64-bit is a gimmick! -> Buys a 64-bit phone, enjoys said phone performance increase.

Bias comes from both camps buddy, not just from Apple.
 
Enlighten me show me some proof.

Happy to oblige.

From Apple's earnings statement:

"The Company recognizes revenue when persuasive evidence of an arrangement exists, delivery has occurred, the sales price is fixed or determinable, and collection is probable. Product is considered delivered to the customer once it has been shipped and title and risk of loss have been transferred. For most of the Company’s product sales, these criteria are met at the time the product is shipped. For online sales to individuals, for some sales to education customers in the U.S., and for certain other sales, the Company defers revenue until the customer receives the product because the Company retains a portion of the risk of loss on these sales during transit"

I haven't been a posting part of this forum for as long as you have but even I have seen this information multiple times on MR.
 
Happy to oblige.

From Apple's earnings statement:

"The Company recognizes revenue when persuasive evidence of an arrangement exists, delivery has occurred, the sales price is fixed or determinable, and collection is probable. Product is considered delivered to the customer once it has been shipped and title and risk of loss have been transferred. For most of the Company’s product sales, these criteria are met at the time the product is shipped. For online sales to individuals, for some sales to education customers in the U.S., and for certain other sales, the Company defers revenue until the customer receives the product because the Company retains a portion of the risk of loss on these sales during transit"

I haven't been a posting part of this forum for as long as you have but even I have seen this information multiple times on MR.
Thanks
 
I thought the 5C was the prettiest and nicest to hold iPhone they've yet made, but I bought a 5S because it had better features and didn't cost much more. That's the key, I think - why did anyone expect last years model to sell more than this years when the cost was almost the same?
 
To all you "one-hand-usage-blah-blah-threepointfive-blah-blah" monkeys out there, take a look at this now:

galaxy_note_ii_iphone_5.jpg


See the hand on the left? See the length of the thumb? See that the Apple one-hand-use-only-with-miniature-screens-propaganda is a load of stinkin' bull...?
 
You forget Qualcomm saying 64-bit is a gimmick and then back tracking.





You think large screens is innovation? You know why new markets like wearables suck? Because Apple hasn't shown them the way. Large screens is the only thing competitors can come up with on their own.

For Android the large screen is their innovation. Since Apple dont have large screen they can brag it. But imagine if iPhone has 2 size 4 & 5 inches. How Android compete? Well probably make the screen size even more larger. With these rumors I can see Galaxy 5S with 6-7" screen. LOL
 
To all you "one-hand-usage-blah-blah-threepointfive-blah-blah" monkeys out there, take a look at this now:

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See the hand on the left? See the length of the thumb? See that the Apple one-hand-use-only-with-miniature-screens-propaganda is a load of stinkin' bull...?

lies no human can hold something 5" big :p


too bad I don't have the notion to care but I would love to read posts from these whiners once apple releases a 5" phone and tells the consumers how awesome 5" is and they make a fancy commercial with a thumb and ear buds
 
Nice try? its the same thing. Let me break it down.

5" phone is too big! -> Buys a phablet, enjoys said large screen phone.
64-bit is a gimmick! -> Buys a 64-bit phone, enjoys said phone performance increase.

Bias comes from both camps buddy, not just from Apple.

Actually let me break it down for you. In you're failed attempt to compare bias, you're making the false assumption that Android users are mocking 64 bit CPUs. It's far from the truth, Android users are always asking for more when it comes to specs. We all know this because every other user shoots back with the usual "specs don't matter" response. But the apple loyalist are always repeating the pathetic one handed use marketing of their leader. But in reality are overwhelmingly desiring a bigger screen. Apple loyalists are so loyal they won't even complain about a very real problem they may be having with their iDevice just to save face of their leader. Just look at how many have just now come out about the home screen crashing problem after its now been reported in the open. Quite sad.
 
All of which I can do on any phone that has a bigger screen. I'm currently doing it now with the Note 3.

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But some people such as myself disagree. I would definitely use a iPhone more if and only if it had a bigger screen. So now Apple is losing money because I refuse to buy the current phones with such a small screen.

We'll see what happens.
 
It would certainly make more sense than the hideous and completely pointless 5C. The 5C expensive as it was, was constantly said to be the budget iPhone (albeit not by Apple), and quite frankly people didn't want to be seen as the person who couldn't quite afford an iPhone 5S. They know they could say that they preferred the 5C and the funky colour or whatever else, but they know that people are still thinking they couldn't quite afford the 5S.

Different size screens however are a different kettle of fish. With the same kind of body, I would go for a 4.5" or 4.7" screen over a 5" screen even if it was the cheaper model simply because for me 5" is too big (you don't often hear that phrase outside of phones) so I think both models would sell equally well.

Is this serious? Can't quite afford the 5s? I can quite afford the 5s and I opted for the 5c because I HATE the 5/5s. I hope they die a fast death because the form factor is seriously flawed.

Choosing a 5c over a 5s has nothing to do with affording it... The price is barely any difference.

Wow!!!
 
I really hope Apple doesn't follow the idiotic Android trend that only the biggest phone gets the best specs. I definitely want a bigger iPhone - around 4.7 - 5 inches would be perfect, but if it has downgraded specs from the so-called "phablet" iPhone, that's a deal killer for me. I seriously doubt Apple would be that stupid.

Agreed, though if the ipad mini retina(same exact specs as ipad air but only smaller physically) is any indication, the future looks bright.
 
Three sizes?

I find it hard to believe they'd have a 4" and ~4.5" and ~5" screen sizes. I really hope they don't introduce more than one new screen resolution. We don't need more fragmentation (although they'd likely be pulling out the 3.5" screen, many apps are still going to want to support it for a while).

Although they do have 3 phones now ($0, $99 and $199 in the US). If they'd price them like that, it'd be interesting.

Gary
 
I find it hard to believe they'd have a 4" and ~4.5" and ~5" screen sizes. I really hope they don't introduce more than one new screen resolution. We don't need more fragmentation (although they'd likely be pulling out the 3.5" screen, many apps are still going to want to support it for a while).

Although they do have 3 phones now ($0, $99 and $199 in the US). If they'd price them like that, it'd be interesting.

Gary

if they do a 5.5" to compete with the note it will likely cost more than $199

so they might carry 4 phones
 
what this i'm hearing? isamsung?

Someone will probably be along to claim that Samsung copied Apple because they new Apple was going to make larger screen phones in a few years. :D

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Why don't they just add phone functionality to an ipad mini?

And while they're at it, add it to the iMac

The iMac's too heavy to carry around and you'd need a really long extension cord so it wouldn't be practical. :D:D
 
It's a good time to remind people the WSJ correctly predicted the 5C last year in January:


Wouldn't be a stretch to guess this kind of hype-generating rumors at the WSJ are planted by Apple itself.

,,,,

But Walt was at WSJ last year. He is no longer there so I am not sure WSJ still has the inside track that they used to.
 
Someone will probably be along to claim that Samsung copied Apple because they new Apple was going to make larger screen phones in a few years. :D

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The iMac's too heavy to carry around and you'd need a really long extension cord so it wouldn't be practical. :D:D

and they'll realize apple was originally from samsung company till job stole that company.
 
I'm curious about the battery life apple will get out of the 5" phone ... My big android hates the battery.

If apple can get it's all day usage in a 5" I'll be all over it. The only reason I don't have an iPhone now is the small screen size. I like the bigger screens
 
Someone will probably be along to claim that Samsung copied Apple because they new Apple was going to make larger screen phones in a few years. :D


Not to mention that Samsung totally ripped off the company name as well. I mean, isn't it obvious? The first letter in Apple is "A", and just like the Galaxy was the second to market, the second letter in "Samsung" is "A"... Coincidence? I think not.
 
After testing a Windows phone 8 (HTC 8X, which has a 4.5 inch screen I think), I see your point. One thing I noticed is that the bigger screen forced me to hold the phone differently when using one hand, so rather than having my four fingers cover the back of the phone (like the picture below), I adjusted my grip to only hold it 'halfway', which gave my thumb much more room to navigate the screen even with one grip.

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Exactly. People will just change their grip on the phone. It won't be a big deal to most. And just think, if the iPhone had been bigger years earlier, Antennagate never would have happened. :D

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Come on, you and I both know, that people only don't like a larger screen as Apple don't make one.

Let the larger screen come, give it a year or 2 and then ask how many people feel the screen size it wrong

I'll be willing to bet that if they continue to make one model at the current size and a larger model, the larger model will outsell the smaller one by a country mile.

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In this case last years tech isn't all that bad... It's just as good as everyone else's flagship.

The truth is in my book I can't see how people find two tone aluminum and glass attractive. That's why I bought a 5c. I'm a guy that's had every single iphone released up until the 5s. I bought the 5 and returned it to stay on my 4s for this reason.

I've never understood why it baffles people as to why someone else would want something different.

Yes I got the 5 c only to hold me over until the 6 was released, but in the time I've had it I've noticed it's not a bad phone at all. It runs just like the iPhone 5, but IMHO it looks better

Not really. There are phones with bigger screens, faster processors and more RAM than the 5C.


AKA Moto X sized. I concur.

Precisely! Something about that size wouldn't be much bigger physically, yet the screen size increase would be noticeable. And the Moto X has excellent ergonomics too.
 
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