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Scully is hotter now than she was when the show first aired. Milder looks awful.
I guess I'm Mulder.... but I look good! LOL

Scully looks so hot still... she can probe me for alien implants any day!

If I post a link I'll get flagged... I always do. Here is a video name though "13 reasons to not trust space agencies".
 
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http://mashable.com/2016/03/01/how-to-watch-apple-vs-fbi-hearing/#S3.creoLvkqM

I take it back, it's 5 hours long not 3. I was watching it at work live time flew by faster. I think you can skip a lot of it, some questions are stupid, some are pretty good. It's about an hour before the end when a congresswomen asks DoJ the question of how the software will be used and how FBI will keep it secure. The answer was the harddrive thing.

Also watch Comey's responses to the questions of responsibility and how he dodges every question with "courts will decide that", "judges will be responsible for that", "it's up to the judges to secure that".. etc After watching his answers, you can't possibly say that we don't trust him "just because". Even from hour 1 through hour 3 he changes his answers from, it's only one phone one time, and then when asked are there others he dodged with.. "i'm aware of a few".. then in a later interview he says there are "many many".

People don't trust him for a reason.

Ill watch it.
 
When was the last time you or any one is the US paid attention to foreign news?

Every.Single.Day.Of.My.Life.

NASA is known as the "trustfully" department of the US.

They're an Agency, not a department.

Look at Antartica all the countries are following that treaty to the T. No, problems working together there.

Because Antartica is useless. The space has many functions, both military and commercial. That's why everyone with $$$ is trying to go there.

No, I'm don't think there is a "Mother ship"... truly, I don't know what is in space I'm just posing ideas.

Instead of throwing ideas without any science behind them other than youtube video, study.

maybe radiation is too intense they cannot stay up there for long

Ever heard of Scott Kelly?
but you cannot truly believe we are alone in the universe.... right?

Different subject.
 
Fox and Dana are trying to find out...
You are joking right? NASA has tons of NON public stuff. If it is it in the lines of national security or interests we will never know. Does not matter how "public" they pretend to be.

You have to open your mind Scully.... just a crack. Don't' trust the GOV!

Don't trust them when they are telling you what happened, don't trust them with Space, don't trust them with your privacy and don't trust them with your iPhone!
 
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But just for sake of the argument, why do you think NASA, the government and EVERY country in the world all got together to fool you? Russian's had men in space. They part of the plan too?

If there is a plan, who is organizing it and absolutely ensuring that every single country are in agreement on this but clearly disagree with disdain about everything else?

If I may, isn't that staring at the wrong end?

If there is reasonable doubt, or even a doubt that is less than reasonable, start with analysing the claims on their factual merits. If it looks like what the do in space is shot from a large swimming pool, then have a look at it. If you come to the conclusion it really does look like that, then you can start to try to figure out why that is done. If not, ok fine.

Just stating it's not possible because a lot of people would be in on it doesn't seem very scientific to me.

People trust what they are fed through controlled channels because they have been programmed since birth to trust them.

Some years back every one was convinced that Saddam Hussain had WOMD. It turned out it was a fairy tale. What made them so convinced? Their trust in media.

When it comes down to it, one cannot trust anything without independent scrutiny.

Especially not politicians, governmental institutions and media.
 
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If I may, isn't that staring at the wrong end?

If there is reasonable doubt, or even a doubt that is less than reasonable, start with analysing the claims on their factual merits. If it looks like what the do in space is shot from a large swimming pool, then have a look at it. If you come to the conclusion it really does look like that, then you can start to try to figure out why that is done. If not, ok fine.

Just stating it's not possible because a lot of people would be in on it doesn't seem very scientific to me.

People trust what they are fed through controlled channels because they have been programmed since birth to trust them.

Some years back every one was convinced that Saddam Hussain had WOMD. It turned out it was a fairy tale. What made them so convinced? Their trust in media.

When it comes down to it, one cannot trust anything without independent scrutiny.

Especially not politicians, governmental institutions and media.

A wise man understands the flower of life......
 
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When was the last time you or any one is the US paid attention to foreign news?

Everyone country in the world works with NASA. NASA is known as the "trustfully" department of the US. They are the hub for space exploration & knowledge for the world.

The world works together when they need to. Look at Antartica all the countries are following that treaty to the T. No, problems working together there. Why wouldn't the 1st world countries work together in space exploration?

No, I'm don't think there is a "Mother ship"... truly, I don't know what is in space I'm just posing ideas.

Maybe there is a lot of UFO movement they cannot cover up easily, maybe radiation is too intense they cannot stay up there for long, maybe they fake it all to get more tax dollars, who knows... but you cannot truly believe we are alone in the universe.... right? The Gov for years has had the position that humans cannot handle the thought of not being the center of creation therefor they won't be able to handle the knowledge that we are not alone.... so lie and deny until Big Brother thinks we are ready.


Anyway it does not matter what I think what matters is NASA's **** is fake. Check it out...

Question is why? The hypothesis is up to you.....

I'm not from the US or in the US, so I don't really watch US news. I watch BBC once in a while, but generally get my news from other sources. So not sure that American news overwrites the rest of the world, in fact some times for entertainment I do watch the CNN and Fox, but it's amazing how much is left out to make the news seem more "entertaining".

We do have telescopes, so you can see space. There is no special tarp that blocks you from viewing space and if you have some money you can actually make it out to the islands and request a tour and even look at GTC (I think the world's largest telescope to date). They don't digitize and you can move things around yourself and there is no photograph at the end of it to trick you into not seeing space.

No one is following anyone to the T. There is constant war, clearly that America hears very little of and if country A hates country B, I doubt they do everything in their power to keep this under wraps but nothing else. Most countries would most likely hide mass-scale weapons than a conspiracy like this... a conspiracy that would benefit NO ONE.

The thing I'm more interested in, is why believe this conspiracy? I mean there are far cooler more tangible conspiracies. Some American's even say 9/11 was orchestrated by the US. Even that seems more plausible than this. You really aimed high, no? What's your fear. Being taken over by aliens. I'd fear being taken over by your government way before aliens even matter.
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Scully is hotter now than she was when the show first aired. Milder looks awful.

Moulder is still hot and you know it. Although David was best in californication
 
I'm not from the US or in the US, so I don't really watch US news. I watch BBC once in a while, but generally get my news from other sources. So not sure that American news overwrites the rest of the world, in fact some times for entertainment I do watch the CNN and Fox, but it's amazing how much is left out to make the news seem more "entertaining".

We do have telescopes, so you can see space. There is no special tarp that blocks you from viewing space and if you have some money you can actually make it out to the islands and request a tour and even look at GTC (I think the world's largest telescope to date). They don't digitize and you can move things around yourself and there is no photograph at the end of it to trick you into not seeing space.

No one is following anyone to the T. There is constant war, clearly that America hears very little of and if country A hates country B, I doubt they do everything in their power to keep this under wraps but nothing else. Most countries would most likely hide mass-scale weapons than a conspiracy like this... a conspiracy that would benefit NO ONE.

The thing I'm more interested in, is why believe this conspiracy? I mean there are far cooler more tangible conspiracies. Some American's even say 9/11 was orchestrated by the US. Even that seems more plausible than this. You really aimed high, no? What's your fear. Being taken over by aliens. I'd fear being taken over by your government way before aliens even matter.
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Moulder is still hot and you know it. Although David was best in californication
Are you a dude?
 
http://mashable.com/2016/03/01/how-to-watch-apple-vs-fbi-hearing/#S3.creoLvkqM
Oh and please please let me know what you think of the hearing. Obviously skip parts, but I'm dying to know your opinion and how you see it and how you read into it (I am being respectfully serious).

Koreans, being Koreans, naturally mostly use Samsung (a Korean Company) phones. They are not as secure as iPhones as the actually OS can be modified by individual retailers.

Here is what is the Korean Press reports what is going on even as I type regarding phone 'hacking' by the evil KIM Jong Un of North Korea:

"....the number of cyberattacks on South Korea carried out by North Korea has doubled over the past month, the National Intelligence Service (NIS) said Friday.
During a closed-door session of the National Assembly's Intelligence Committee, Seoul's spy agency also said Pyongyang attempted to hack into smartphones belonging to 300 foreign affairs, security and military officials in South Korea between late February and early this month.
It added the Kim Jong-un regime successfully hacked into 40 of those, stealing their texts, voice messages and phone logs...."


ONLY FOOLS would want the iPhone security compromised...and it would be if any 'backdoor' was created to be stolen within days, if not hours, after being an actual capability.
 
Scully or my bride?

It was such a sweet thing to say about your wife so I thought she might have been the intended recipient.

pinky-love.jpeg
 
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Every.Single.Day.Of.My.Life.



They're an Agency, not a department.



Because Antartica is useless. The space has many functions, both military and commercial. That's why everyone with $$$ is trying to go there.



Instead of throwing ideas without any science behind them other than youtube video, study.



Ever heard of Scott Kelly?


Different subject.

Nit picking on words. Your are just being to contrary.


Antartica is NOT useless, it is a prime location for, Oil drilling, environmental science research & the best location for one of the world larges and secret space observatory... oh I bet you didn't know we are hiding an observatory in Antartica.... :) Lies lies lies.

Facts? Well, you are not presenting facts you are just being contrary. So, in your own opinion there really is no different between us... we are the same coin....
 
I'm not from the US or in the US, so I don't really watch US news. I watch BBC once in a while, but generally get my news from other sources. So not sure that American news overwrites the rest of the world, in fact some times for entertainment I do watch the CNN and Fox, but it's amazing how much is left out to make the news seem more "entertaining".

We do have telescopes, so you can see space. There is no special tarp that blocks you from viewing space and if you have some money you can actually make it out to the islands and request a tour and even look at GTC (I think the world's largest telescope to date). They don't digitize and you can move things around yourself and there is no photograph at the end of it to trick you into not seeing space.

No one is following anyone to the T. There is constant war, clearly that America hears very little of and if country A hates country B, I doubt they do everything in their power to keep this under wraps but nothing else. Most countries would most likely hide mass-scale weapons than a conspiracy like this... a conspiracy that would benefit NO ONE.

The thing I'm more interested in, is why believe this conspiracy? I mean there are far cooler more tangible conspiracies. Some American's even say 9/11 was orchestrated by the US. Even that seems more plausible than this. You really aimed high, no? What's your fear. Being taken over by aliens. I'd fear being taken over by your government way before aliens even matter.
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Moulder is still hot and you know it. Although David was best in californication
Skully is still holding up better, though!

I watch Skynews (UK) and compare it to US news. Skynews presents things differently than us news. The UK news presents the news of the world while US news is filtered and only talks about US. It is an interesting comparison. Same with Apple FBI news. US presents it like Apple refuses a simple request to stop terrorism and leaves out all the facts as to why Apple wont unlock it. Even a simple story like this is distorted in the US news.

I did not think it until researching, but I do belie 9/11 was a conspiracy by our government. It was not two buildings is was 7 buildings and all eye witness said, "They exploded from the ground floors, then boom boom boom each floor exploded up wards.... then the plains and the tops fell in." The towers were designed to handle a 747 impact. So, crazy.

So, lets take Aliens and such out of the equation. The Space conspiracy would benefits one things for sure... MONEY. If we think all this stuff is happening in space we'll have no problem letting the budget increase and spending more money on "Space" exploration. It is cheaper to fake space station stuff than to actually be up there. That is not saying we don't have a space station, but to fake the every day events would be a lot cheaper then doing it for real. What is the US most focused on... money power money power money power.... if you use this paradigm the NASA's Faking stuff makes sense.
 
If I may, isn't that staring at the wrong end?

If there is reasonable doubt, or even a doubt that is less than reasonable, start with analysing the claims on their factual merits. If it looks like what the do in space is shot from a large swimming pool, then have a look at it. If you come to the conclusion it really does look like that, then you can start to try to figure out why that is done. If not, ok fine.

Just stating it's not possible because a lot of people would be in on it doesn't seem very scientific to me.

People trust what they are fed through controlled channels because they have been programmed since birth to trust them.

Some years back every one was convinced that Saddam Hussain had WOMD. It turned out it was a fairy tale. What made them so convinced? Their trust in media.

When it comes down to it, one cannot trust anything without independent scrutiny.

Especially not politicians, governmental institutions and media.

This is the problem of the internet. Anyone can write anything and make any youtube video, or take a picture of a president write up some random numbers, then next year replace the picture with a new president and not modify the words and people eat it up as the truth. They don't believe their government but they believe random youtube videos without a single shred of doubt. Give me any possible conspiracy and I'll find you youtube links with "facts" based on some video that was modified or blurry about something. 9/11? Check.. There were even email chains of how if you add up all the letters it equals something. Those were viral, the funny part? If you do the math it didn't even add up, or arbitrary numbers were added as "buffering" to make something that didn't make sense somehow add up and the question was raised "what do those extra numbers mean". They meant nothing, they were created to support the original conspiracy.

Are there conspiracies in the world? ABSOLUTELY! Without a doubt. Is there some psycho tinfoil wearing hat person that posted a video about everything and anything that can even be a conspiracy.. another resounding yes! Can you tell which is which? Most likely not anymore, because all of it sounds insane at this point. The one thing that is in common between all these conspiracies, like: aliens, that we are aliens and don't know it, or that the floor you are standing on is actually alive, but Obama is lying to you about it–is that all these conspiracies are based on doubts. Guess what? Doubt is everywhere and everything can be doubted.. that means EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Can you know 100% sure that I'm not an alien and writing this to protect our race? There is a conspiracy there. I'll go post a video on youtube, link up some posts that I made that were questionable and title it in big letters..."macrumors central meeting place for aliens. They use our words but you can decode their meaning by: ignore every 6th word in my post unless it's a "the", or the word "aliens" if it shows up between posts 1 and 1000 and the 50th word but only if it's "are" and then any word in the next 20 pages that has the word "here"". But it's true! Check it yourself. Those are FACTS. Because you can find those words in that order. You can't possibly say that I knew about that before writing this? Or did I? I wonder what it spells out. But the bigger question is.. .why?

So you are right, you should choose your conspiracies and back them up with news articles you find and twist into what you already decided as a conspiracy. Search through facebook and youtube and find other people that believe what you believe and take what they say as pure facts, even though they, just like you, searched for information, reached and came to conclusion. You look at their videos and think, wow that is some strong evidence, they look at yours and think, wow that is some strong evidence. Each is dependent on each other until you have a full blown everyone is lying to us conspiracy that is not in your own circle that you created from scratch.
 
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I'm not sure the issues are separable in the way you'd like them to be. The fact it creates a precedent makes what ever software they write a "de facto" back door, as Apple will either have to keep the software, or be faced with writing it again whenever the government asks them too, if this order is allowed to stand.

It is not in dispute that Apple can write the software, what is in dispute is whether they should be compelled to write it, to effectively co-opt Apple into government service, to enlist the employees of Apple, perhaps against their will, to work for the government. This can not be allowed to stand, it sets a terrible precedent that when combined with Apples ability to write the software gives the US government, virtually unlimited power to spy on us. If Apple can be compelled to write software to bypass the lock screen, they can most likely be compelled to write software to remotely turn on the camera or the microphone, after all, if they don't, won't they be helping the terrorists. This for us or against us dialogue the government is using is insidious in the extreme. No issue is so simple that it can be thought of or reduced to such simple terms.

As for others gaining entry, once the system is weakened it gives others a way in, even if it can't be applied directly, it can be decompiled and give hints about how to approach the problem. Getting hold of it will not be as difficult as you imagine either. No server is completely secure and even if it is kept on an air gapped machine, it will still not be invulnerable. In any case how long would it really be before the FBI turned round and said that in order for a more expeditious service they'd really rather it be kept on their systems.

Just because something can be done, it does not necessarily mean that it should be done.

This also applies to hardware Apple would have to chance in the 5s, 6 and 6s and future phones to make them less secure. Wonder what the hell they would have done if this phone had been a 5s! Cracking that phone would be one hell of a job. Considering they had access to that phone's info and foobared it, makes this whole thing surreal.
 
The Gov for years has had the position that humans cannot handle the thought of not being the center of creation therefor they won't be able to handle the knowledge that we are not alone.... so lie and deny until Big Brother thinks we are ready.
Of course we don't believe we are alone, this line above about the government having this thought is absolutely asinine. The rest of your drivel is just that, drivel.
 
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