Well what's your take on people who continue to spend ridiculous money on Gucci and LV bags and such? Those companies certainly stay in business and their products are definitely about perceived value.
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Well what's your take on people who continue to spend ridiculous money on Gucci and LV bags and such? Those companies certainly stay in business and their products are definitely about perceived value.
It blows my mind that people are buying HP over Dell or Lenovo. HP has the highest market share and the worst Windows PCs for the price! They combine bad quality with terrible "extra features" that just add frustration.
Anyway, I just buy Mac. I'm done with Windows.
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I want to be able to upgrade my graphics card. I have a PC the same age as your Mac still playing current gen games.
lol ur hilarious. Like most people are gonna go bother swapping out batteries. Also, crappy hardware. Literally, the most beautiful hardware I have ever seen and had the pleasure to use. I see this b.s constantly before practically every product launch, and I will never forget the reactions to the iphone 4 and the iPad. As such, I won't believe any nonsense with hate going to products that haven't been released. What's driving down sales is obvious. No new product lines from when this data was collected.
Says the guy with a 15" MBP Thunderbolt, A Retina MBP, An AppleTV, a 24" iMac and iPad. All of which have little to no upgradability, but you gave Apple some nice cash to have them. Your post is hypocritical against your own purchasing interests.
all those are travel computers and show computer and 24 " sits on my daughters desk, as we had no more use for it
We have 3 mac pros that we use in our studio, and you have what
one of our mac pros is strictly used as a server
When we travel we use our mac books. i do not care about expandability with mac books but I do care with expandability with my mac pros
Not really. Again, proprietary hardware (which apple has had for years btw and has seen increases in sales in the past beyond that) doesn't really affect overall market share. Most people just aren't gonna go thru upgrading batteries, RAM, hdd, etc. They buy a new computer when theirs starts to lag behind certain standards.
Sure, but isn't it possible the decline in Macs is possibly due to people buying iPads instead?
840Pro 512GB alone is around $500.
The SSD in the next-generation retina MBP will be almost the fastest PCI-e based one, much faster than 840Pro
And the 802.11ac would be the fastest as well
The SSD in the next-generation retina MBP will be almost the fastest PCI-e based one, much faster than 840Pro
And the 802.11ac would be the fastest as well
Based on the Market Share change YoY for tablets and the fact that now Android is selling more Tablets than Apple, wouldn't a more likely scenario be PC users are purchasing Lenovo laptops and desktop computers and Mac and PC users that don't need a new computer are purchasing an Android Tablet?
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Normal people mostly don't buy as much expensive electronics in the spring, and then buy more stuff during back-to-school and the holiday seasons. So the fraction of dull businesses refreshing computers will higher, and dull businesses buy mostly dull PCs.
So wait till Apple finishes their Haswell refresh before the shopping season, and then see if their market share continues to slip.
So wait till Apple finishes their Haswell refresh before the shopping season, and then see if their market share continues to slip.
No, since no Android OEM's report sales figures we have no clue how big the tablet market is and the what the share of each company is. Also I have a hard time believing a large percentage of Mac users are using Android tablets. If iPad figures were added to Apple's PC numbers I think these figures would look different.
I have to agree with this one. It's great we don't have to pay skyhigh prices like in the old days to get into Apple and I'm glad that the cheapest air now comes with a 128g drive as standard but seriously where is the low cost reasonably sized entry model? The other thing I would be interested in knowing specifically is how the sales of the new imac are going?
Apple typically uses Hynix chips for RAM.
Some Corsair Vengeance RAM uses Hynix chips but some also uses cheaper Nanya chips.
The RAM Apple uses could potentially use the same or better chips than your Corsair Vengeance RAM.
Similar analyses could be done for other parts used by Apple that you deem bottom of the barrel.
Just some food for thought.
Well not really, when your a large Business, Windows just makes a lot more sense from an management and in house repair prespective.
And if your a basic home user, and don't even know the difference between Windows and OSX, and watch cat videos all day.
You see the Dell for 699
You see the Mac for 999
You buy the 699 Dell because your cheap, or don't care.
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Depends what you need, I like my macs for casual home use. Been using them since college.
But when I want to do some epic gaming, I fire up my GamePC ( Yes thats an actual brand ) gaming tower.
If you want gaming or extreme performance, you pretty much have to go PC.
I thought we got over the "spec war" years ago, and realized that people care about more than simple specs. The reality is, a lot of what you mentioned, the average consumer cares pretty much ZERO about.
But to play at your own game ...
I'm not sure what you're smoking, but Apple doesn't use bottom of the barrel parts.
Slow SSDs? Hardly. Especially with Apple pushing PCIe SSDs. I don't see any other companies doing this. The Macbook Air's new SSD is faster than your "fastest on the market" 840 Pro, pushing a delta of at least 200 MB on sequential reads and writes.
RAM? I think you're overestimating the importance here. By what metric are we measuring "cheap"? I've never had a problem with Apple's RAM (except its exhorbitant price of course -- but that's where Apple makes its profit). If you think you're being bottlenecked by RAM speed, honestly, you are probably just aren't. And 99.9% of users will never be bottlenecked by "slow" RAM. The capacity is much more important, and Apple offers plenty of that (at a premium price albeit."
If you want to talk about networking ...
Wired: First, most of Apple's target customers don't use or really need gig-E. Sorry if you do, but you're clearly not Apple's target customer. And if you really do, there's an adaptor for that. Probably inconvenient for you, but its great for everyone else -- we're no longer limited by the size of the ethernet connection, so laptops can be thinner and more portable than ever.
Wireless: Apple is one of the only companies that puts decent wireless in their laptops. They have been using 3x3:3 MIMO for years now. You'd be hard pressed to find that on hardly any windows laptops. From Jarred over at Anandtech: "Can you guess what the most common configuration is, even on more expensive laptops? If you said single-band 2.4GHz 1x1:1, give yourself a cookie."
Finally, hardly ANYONE cares about upgrading their wireless card. You might -- and that's great -- but if you're that into upgrading and DIY, you're clearly in the right market -- a PC.
Also, what you've failed to include in your "specs" are other factors -- keyboard quality, display quality (sorry, 1080p isn't "retina" for a laptop), trackpad quality ... and the biggest difference -- SOFTWARE.
Get real man.
Yes it does. Have you seen the prices Apple charges? Most people are finding the price/value ratio just isn't there.
My Windows PC laptops:
- IBM Thinkpad T42 (late 2004 - today) Long retired, but still boots up and works fine... just slow. Aside from replacing the HDD once, I've never had a problem with it.
- Toshiba Satellite A135-S4517 (summer 2007 - today) Typing on it right now. I use this every day. So far, still problem free. Only upgrades done were upgrading from Win Vista to Win 7 and adding more RAM.
What does this prove? Every computer, and yes, this includes Apple's MacBook Pro, can have problems.
What it doesn't mean is Windows PC are poorly built and needs to be upgraded "every other year" or that they "are built to be obsolete in 18 months." That's just a bunch of hogwash.
Maybe. iPads also replace Windows laptops, but I don't know if they affect them as much.
Isn't that the same excuse Apple users used with Mac's and then the iPhone and now you're going to dig that up with the Tablet IDC numbers?
IDC clearly states that they don't include Media Tablets.
"Note: Data includes desk-based PCs and mobile PCs, including mini-notebooks but not media tablets such as the iPad."
If the iPad could run native Mac applications (as the surface pro can) then maybe you'd have a basis for your opinion but as long as Apple chooses to run a mobile OS that doesn't run native Mac apps then your point makes no sense.
Then again... Android is outselling Apple in the Tablet Market and Crushing them in the Smartphone Market my opinion would sway more towards my original scenerio. It's tough to see 247% growth for Android, 700% growth for Windows and 65% growth for Apple knocking it down almost 20% in market share for the year.
It's the Mac vs PC all over again. It's just a matter of time unless Apple comes up with something better than what they presented at WWDC.
It's going to be a long summer for Apple and I would assume Tim Cook.
If you think APPLE computers spec wise are the best computers ever made you must be high on that cannabis.
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