It doesn't matter how attractive the App Store is, if Epic buys exclusive rights it cannot be on the App Store.
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U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee Approves Another Antitrust Bill That Would Allow Sideloading on iPhone
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Look up the term exclusive please. I am not wrong here. Just like no matter how attractive an Xbox platform is, God of War will NEVER be on it because it is a Playstation console exclusive. If I have an Xbox, I can't get God of War.
You’re describing a platform exclusive, not a store exclusive
Your analogy is incorrect.
Oh for GOODNESS SAKE! I am talking about >>>>exclusives<<<< in general here. Just like I cannot buy Kirkland popcorn at Target because it is exclusive to Costco.
There is a key difference between choosing to offer App(X) in an AppStore and being forced to offer App(X) in a particular AppStore. Yes you don't need to sideload, it's your choice to get that game through sideloading, or simply get one of the competing games. At the moment everybody is *forced* to go through Apples AppStore, customers and devs, doesn't matter if they wan't or not. Having a choice is the key term here, and currently there is none.
I have said repeatedly if it is 100% guaranteed that iOS apps will all remain on the App Store and all future iOS apps are also on the App Store, I have NO problem AT ALL with this whole side-loading discussion. I will even join you in advocating for it. Can you make that guarantee? Is it in the bill? If you can't, there will definitely be an app that will force users to enable side-loading to get.
Apple is the richest company in the world with some of the best software / hardware engineers in the world. You really think they can't keep the iOS / iPadOS secure if side-loading apps weren't allowed? They already do it on the Mac via a feature called GateKeeper.
it's honestly the same arguments going around in circles across similar threads about sideloading.
to be transparent and honest, i will say that i am not financially invested into apple. therefore, am not financially affected by a decision against apple.
with that out of the way, i hope apple loses. have a nice day
to be transparent and honest, i will say that i am not financially invested into apple. therefore, am not financially affected by a decision against apple.
with that out of the way, i hope apple loses. have a nice day
You're mixing up platforms / software / and distribution channels. A game maker who makes iOS-ONLY games and sells them exclusively to Epic then Epic CAN market them directly on their site or on the App Store. It's still an iOS only game. Your example is like trying to buy an iOS game on Google Play Store. Not the same thing. Epic would be a distributor. They would have exclusive rights to distribute the game. They can choose to sell it in any market they want, just like any other distributor of any other product.
I am offering examples and proof of exclusivities happen to help make my argument.
This really sucks politicians stay the heck outta my phone and stop jeperdizing my security. We need a list of the ones involved so we will know which ones to vote out of office.
Because PCs and their users aren't exactly like smartphones and their users. People are used to installing software from multiple places on their computers. It's been a thing since basically forever. It's surely a vanishingly small crowd that would install things from only the Mac App Store or only from Steam on their computers. Most people will happily get the software they desire from wherever they need to buy it. Epic gains basically no extra users by putting a game on Steam, that's why they don't do it. However, if your supposition is correct that most consumers will refuse to use alternate app stores or side-load on iOS (and evidence of Fortnite's lack of success in side-loading on Android may be evidence of this), then Epic gains access to a huge userbase that they would miss out on if they don't list on the iOS App Store.
Here's a way...
Dev fee for apps listed on the Apple app store at no more than x% higher than alt-stores $99/yr (current)
Dev fee for apps not listed on the Apple app store $99,999/yr..... or more. Yup, lets go Austin Powers at $1 million.
Done
Lets please, stop going around in circles because nobody has ever responded and this isn't going anywhere LOL. Can you 100% guarantee that EVERY app on iOS will remain on the App Store and all future iOS apps will all be on the App Store thus allowing us that want to keep the walled garden will have the same experience/apps available to us?
Simple yes or no please, lets stop going around in circles.
Simple yes or no please, lets stop going around in circles.
It doesn't matter if I or you have a problem with it or not, it's a far broader term.
That's market related anticompetition rules companies have to follow, specially when they become big as Apple.
I definitely want my technology chosen by a bunch of corrupt 70 year olds that make laws based on which special interest lobbied them the most. Or we could let companies do what they want and choose which we like from the available choices. Nah…that will never work.
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Sigh. There is a myriad of reasons I, personally, don’t want this. But I am also a reasonable person, so as long as there is a toggle to allow/not allow side loading I can (begrudgingly) live with that. My only worry is the not-well-informed people that will jump all over these apps and suffer the consequences, and that Apple support will have their backs against the wall dealing with the naive ones.
So what? And you mention MS whose computing platforms are more open and far more developer friendly than Apple's
This may destroy the PS4, PS5. Xbox, Nintendo Switch, and a hundred other potential platforms. Ahhh stupid politicians. The fountain of unintended consequences.
To quote Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman
Careful about the "we" part
(think that's the quote - please correct me if off a bit)
Why would you expect that? That's not what an exclusive is. That's a store brand. You can't buy Shell gasoline at Chevron either. Are you saying Shell has an "exclusive" on their own gasoline?
Frankly, I think you have become unfocused on what an exclusive is. The game makers can choose to sell only to Epic (exclusively) and Epic can choose to market those games wherever they want and charge accordingly.