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I think you're confusing a "Claim Period" (6 years in the UK) with a warranty.

The warranty in the UK is still 1 year, but you have 6 years to make a claim.

To make a "claim", you have to gather proof (t your expense initially) that your iDevice has not lasted a reasonable amount of time and take Apple to court, where a judge will agree/disagree.

I'm not claiming it's a manufacturer's warranty. It's a statutory right. You don't make a claim by going straight to the court, you have to deal with the seller first. Of course most places like PC World will fight teeth and nail against it compared to the likes of Apple and John Lewis.

The vast majority of cases under this directive and SOGA never make it to court because the Judge will always rule in favour of the consumer where its pretty obvious the device was caused by defect not accidental damage. It's very easy to show that a device is defective within a two year period. If Apple, or any retailer is to claim that a device breaking within a two year period for an iPhone or Macintosh is reasonable they would be laughed away, which is why its in their best interest to not take it further than a repair.

Fundamentally, the retailer and reseller has obligations beyond a one year manufacturer's warranty. They are not choosing to do you a favour where you need to invoke SOGA. They are obligated to do so, whether that comes from a judge in the county court, or from the genius authorising it himself.

You absolutely do not need to take this to a small claims first, good retailers will do it no questions asked, the bad retailers will do after a letter or email addressed to head office, it's very rare that cases like iPhones or technological equipment, more so under two years, go into the small claims court. That is the very last resort when using SOGA. Neither party wants to take a SOGA claim to court.
 
Fundamentally, the retailer and reseller has obligations beyond a one year manufacturer's warranty. They are not choosing to do you a favour where you need to invoke SOGA. They are obligated to do so, whether that comes from a judge in the county court, or from the genius authorising it himself.

I think we agree here. ^^

I'm just saying you can't expect to have your 23 month old device that you purchased from Apple, repaired/replaced by Apple for free.

They can (and do refuse) and are within their legal rights to do so, as the device is 23 months old, but as we have both said, they invariably cover it because it's easier than going to court and being ruled against by a judge.

The only point I was trying to make was that what they "choose" to do is different from what they legally have to do.
 
Just ignore that, they are just covering themselves. Your future phone is probably already at Syncreon just down the road you in Hinkley

Yes, it happens every year.

In fact, we can probably write most of this thread now, including next Thursday when someone will come on here and say they have just spoken to Apple who have told them phones won't arrive until early the following week.

That will be followed by an hour or two of conflicting rumours and then someone will say that they have talked to their local delivery office who have confirmed that they have the phones and they will be delivered on Friday.

Then we will get others who tell us no, Apple have said they won't be here until next week, so the delivery office is wrong. They will still be saying it the next morning when delivery status changes to "out for delivery".

The final stage is when everyone disappears from the thread as they go to play with their phones which they received on Friday.

Happens every year.
 
I think we agree here. ^^

I'm just saying you can't expect to have your 23 month old device that you purchased from Apple, repaired/replaced by Apple for free.

They can (and do refuse) and are within their legal rights to do so, as the device is 23 months old, but as we have both said, they invariably cover it because it's easier than going to court and being ruled against by a judge.

The only point I was trying to make was that what they "choose" to do is different from what they legally have to do.

No worries mate, I think we were coming to the same point from different angles and I apologise if I was being a bit pedantic with language!
 
Yes, it happens every year.

In fact, we can probably write most of this thread now, including next Thursday when someone will come on here and say they have just spoken to Apple who have told them phones won't arrive until early the following week.

That will be followed by an hour or two of conflicting rumours and then someone will say that they have talked to their local delivery office who have confirmed that they have the phones and they will be delivered on Friday.

Then we will get others who tell us no, Apple have said they won't be here until next week, so the delivery office is wrong. They will still be saying it the next morning when delivery status changes to "out for delivery".

The final stage is when everyone disappears from the thread as they go to play with their phones which they received on Friday.

Happens every year.

haha very true but you also forgot the posts come 8am Friday along the lines of "ordered 8.01!"

then followed by posts of

"I ordered my phone 1 minute before you and my order status still says processing.. is there something wrong?"

but anyway, good to be back to this thread, its an annual event in its own right.
 
Anyone know if Apple allow phones to be sent to any address ie work?

I know Three have in the past and I've in the past had a Macbook Pro delivered to a different address than the billing one.

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I notice the reserve for in store pickup message has gone from the website. Am I just tired and looking in the wrong place or is this the case?
 
Anyone know if Apple allow phones to be sent to any address ie work?
I think they do but something that does catch people out on launch days is that the couriers are really busy and might only get to your office after 17:00 (or whenever you plan to leave).
 
I think they do but something that does catch people out on launch days is that the couriers are really busy and might only get to your office after 17:00 (or whenever you plan to leave).

What are the normal delivery schedules 9-6? I generally get to work 8:00 - 8:30 and leave 17:30-18:00
 
First time buying my own iPhone properly via contract :D Excited.

I'm getting the bog standard iPhone 6 16GB on a 3 contract.

Hopefully £33 per month with minimal upfront cost.

That is manageable for me.

I don't even know how people can spend £50 p/m with an upfront cost. Thats like at least £1200+ over 2 years which is insane!

I'm looking to spend around £800 over the period of 2 years (total cost at the end)
 
What are the normal delivery schedules 9-6? I generally get to work 8:00 - 8:30 and leave 17:30-18:00
Probably 7:30 until 20:00 or thereabouts. If you can find the iPhone 5 UK thread you will see a range of "I still haven't got mine" to "never mind it's just arrived" posts.
 
First time buying my own iPhone properly via contract :D Excited.

I'm getting the bog standard iPhone 6 16GB on a 3 contract.

Hopefully £33 per month with minimal upfront cost.

That is manageable for me.

I don't even know how people can spend £50 p/m with an upfront cost. Thats like at least £1200+ over 2 years which is insane!

I'm looking to spend around £800 over the period of 2 years (total cost at the end)

You'll struggle at £800. £33 x 24 is £792 and three generally have £79-£99 upfront on the 16gb. Chances are contract could be a fraction more expensive as well.

To keep it under £800 you could buy phone outright then get a £10 monthly sim either from three or GiffGaff.

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Probably 7:30 until 20:00 or thereabouts. If you can find the iPhone 5 UK thread you will see a range of "I still haven't got mine" to "never mind it's just arrived" posts.

Okay thanks.

UPS are always pretty good where I work, always after 9 and before 5 so fingers crossed they'll try and keep to that, but I know it's not a certain given how busy they'll be.
 
Well after considering things and the fact that I don't really want to stay with Vodafone as they offer poor signal and not regular 3G coverage in my area for a premium price, so have ordered a all you can eat 4G 1 month rolling contract from Three for £15 p/m and will buy the phone outright and recycle my 5s to take most of the hit from Envirofone (£294).

Roll on Friday 8am :D
 
That time of year again. :D

Can anyone confirm that pre-orders for sim-free iPhone 6 goes live at 8AM UK time?

I'll try the Apple Store app route like last year.
 
I'm looking to spend around £800 over the period of 2 years (total cost at the end)
I would guess that anything under £1200 for a 2 year contract would be unlikely. Only buying the phone cash and a £10/£15 SIM deal would get close to that.
 
Are you on this planet? You won't get anywhere near £800 for the 6 at or around launch. You can only just reach £800 with the 5S and that's a year after launch.


I'm due for an upgrade so I'll threaten to leave them to make them waive the upfront cost or put on a recurring monthly discount. Dad has done this countless number of times.
 
That time of year again. :D

Can anyone confirm that pre-orders for sim-free iPhone 6 goes live at 8AM UK time?

I'll try the Apple Store app route like last year.

They stated the time on the Store website but then took it down. I suspect they are keeping it unknown on purpose so people do not spam the store. But likely to be 8:00am as all the previous have been at this time.
 
You'll struggle at £800. £33 x 24 is £792 and three generally have £79-£99 upfront on the 16gb. Chances are contract could be a fraction more expensive as well.

To keep it under £800 you could buy phone outright then get a £10 monthly sim either from three or GiffGaff.

Around £800... I'll have some leeway.

Also I looked online at prices of iPhone 5 at launch from 3 and it totals around £895. If I can bag an iPhone 6 for that price, I'll gladly take it. Also I can use the fact that I'm due for an upgrade and haggle with 3 to lower the cost. Works every time.
 
I'm due for an upgrade so I'll threaten to leave them to make them waive the upfront cost or put on a recurring monthly discount. Dad has done this countless number of times.

Oh dear...

Sorry to burn your hopes and dreams but it won't happen. They will have limited stock and be more than happy to sell them to new customers who are willing to pay the RRP.
 
Around £800... I'll have some leeway.

Also I looked online at prices of iPhone 5 at launch from 3 and it totals around £895. If I can bag an iPhone 6 for that price, I'll gladly take it. Also I can use the fact that I'm due for an upgrade and haggle with 3 to lower the cost. Works every time.

They've always refused be a lower price on upgrade but if you can do it then sorted!
 
Oh dear...

Sorry to burn your hopes and dreams but it won't happen. They will have limited stock and be more than happy to sell them to new customers who are willing to pay the RRP.

The least I'll be able to do is get more data/mins/text for the same price, so I'm happy.
 
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