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My status on UK Mail went to Booked/Awaiting Collection around 8am this morning - keeping my fingers crossed for a delivery tomorrow. :)
 
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I'm calm! I'm calm! :mad::mad::mad:
 

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For God's sake, some people in this thread need to step outside. Your tracking info will go live once the phone is collected by the respective courier. This will happen over the course of the day, then get scanned when they reach the depot. Then you'll be able to start tracking.

People putting really sad faces because they can't track a phone that's coming tomorrow. Have a look at yourselves.
 
These are copied and pasted from a Vodafone representative on Live Chat (just now) when I told her that O2 and EE have already started shipping phones-

John we have still not received the handset, so we will not be able to comment about it and as soon as we receive it we will start delivering it.
Ya it is strange that how are they able to give the tracking number before the actual launch.
John I understand your concern, even we want to deliver the phone at earliest but we need to wait for the manufacturer to actually deliver the handset to us.


Not looking good for us on Vodafone.
 
To azzin who keeps asking the same question without first looking for the response below his post, it locks, it's on their own website and is fact.

/rant
Wow, I guess there's always one that has to spoil an otherwise fun thread. :rolleyes:
Did you not have your Frosties this morning?

I re asked, because someone merely answered with "no", rather than explaining it was on the JL website.

I then fully ackknowledged the point and thanked the poster for taking the time to post the info.
 
SIM free does NOT mean unlocked! People presume it implies so, but it (in Apples case) just means the phone is being sold without a SIM.

Apple's software locks to the first SIM inserted for third party phones (i.e. not sold by them), and then you have to request to that network that they request to Apple to release the lock on your phone, even if its "SIM free". It is not the networks choice to lock it. I'm sure they'd rather it didn't and save them the hassle, which is why the like of EE etc. I believe charge £8.99 for the cost of someone having to sort it and request to Apple.

Once this is unlocked once (by Apple, hence why it has to be done through an software update), any SIM can be inserted on any network at any time as many times as you like, and it can be sold on as SIM free and unlocked. Simples!

Just read further into this and you're right. And it's the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life.

The whole point of buying a phone for the full retail price is that it isn't locked to a specific Operator. Its price hasn't been subsidised by the Network and therefore (like every other phone in the world that isn't iPhone) it should be open to all networks all of the time.

I know Apple like to do things their way but FFS they're kinda taking the mickey here somewhat.

The only way to unlock iPhone after a device has been unlocked is to pay the network to unlock it - another joke. And EE won't unlock them from what I've read as their policy states that they'll only do that for the original owner, which they can't be sure is you as it was never registered on their network in the first place.

Chuck a foreign SIM in there and you're basically screwed.

If you're going to buy one from a third party I guess the best advice would be to get it on a contract - you're locked on that Network anyway. If you want SIM Free (truly SIM Free Unlocked that is) then go with Apple.
 
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Got my text from Apple about 20 mins ago. Still no movement on tracking at DPD, but its still coming tomorrow …

I wont physically get it till Sunday- so Im expecting much gloating for the next few days from my father who's receiving it on my behalf…
 
Just read further into this and you're right. And it's the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life.

The whole point of buying a phone for the full retail price is that it isn't locked to a specific Operator. Its price hasn't been subsidised by the Network and therefore (like every other phone in the world that isn't iPhone) it should be open to all networks all of the time.

I know Apple like to do things their way but FFS they're kinda taking the mickey here somewhat.

The only way to unlock iPhone after a device has been unlocked is to pay the network to unlock it - another joke. And EE won't unlock them from what I've read as their policy states that they'll only do that for the original owner, which they can't be sure is you as it was never registered on their network in the first place.

If you're going to buy one from a third party I guess the best advice would be to get it on a contract - you're locked on that Network anyway. If you want SIM Free (truly SIM Free Unlocked that is) then go with Apple.

This is not true. Your only locked if you have a contract handset. My 5s which I bought at full price from an apple store has been unlocked since day 1
 
DPD tracking has started to show some life..."We've received your order details, and we're expecting your parcel shortly"

IT'S HAPPENING. PRAISE BE TO FRANCIS.
 
This is not true. Your only locked if you have a contract handset. My 5s which I bought at full price from an apple store has been unlocked since day 1

If you buy an unsubsidised iPhone from any retailer other than Apple your phone, even though it will accept any SIM, will then become locked to that Network. i.e. a £700 6S+ 64GB iPhone from John Lewis will become locked to Lyca Mobile the moment you put one of their SIM cards into it.

Look it up.
 
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This is not true. Your only locked if you have a contract handset. My 5s which I bought at full price from an apple store has been unlocked since day 1

Read the post and quote through - it IS locked first time you insert a SIM if you buy from anywhere BUT Apple Store. Yes, your 5s would have been SIM free and unlocked because it was bought from Apple direct.

Buying anywhere else? It'll most likely lock to the first SIM inserted, which is incredibly disappointing of Apple (who implement it, not networks) as Benny_G said.
 
I've received a text from UK Mail stating it'll be delivered tomorrow, but the tracking number isn't working. The number itself has also changed on the Apple website since we received the dispatch notification yesterday.

Ah well, guess I can live with that. Just as long as they send a message with a general estimate for delivery time...
 
UK Mail's estimated delivery times didn't really come close to the actual delivery time for the iPhone 6 launch. Perhaps they have improved their modelling this year.
 
Just read further into this and you're right. And it's the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life.

The whole point of buying a phone for the full retail price is that it isn't locked to a specific Operator. Its price hasn't been subsidised by the Network and therefore (like every other phone in the world that isn't iPhone) it should be open to all networks all of the time.

I know Apple like to do things their way but FFS they're kinda taking the mickey here somewhat.

The only way to unlock iPhone after a device has been unlocked is to pay the network to unlock it - another joke. And EE won't unlock them from what I've read as their policy states that they'll only do that for the original owner, which they can't be sure is you as it was never registered on their network in the first place.

Chuck a foreign SIM in there and you're basically screwed.

If you're going to buy one from a third party I guess the best advice would be to get it on a contract - you're locked on that Network anyway. If you want SIM Free (truly SIM Free Unlocked that is) then go with Apple.

Every iPhone I have owned has been 'SIM free' and direct from Apple on launch day. They have all been unlocked and I have been able to put what ever network SIM into each one and never had a problem. I know for a fact my iPhone 6 is not locked as I have a SIM only deal with Three and I put my friends Tesco Mobile SIM in it the other day to show his SIM working in mine. I actually washed my iPhone 5S, that I got SIM free from Apple. When the insurance gave me a replacement handset, I put it randomly into iTunes and the unlocked message appeared. I think, in my experience anyway, that SIM free from Apple means unlocked for the duration of the handset.
 
You technically get two year warranty anywhere as it is consumer law. John Lewis is only following the law

Sorry, that's not factual.

The UK opted out of the EU 2 year warranty and we have the Sale of Goods Act.

The SoGA allows you to make a CLAIM (and that's all it is-a CLAIM) against the RETAILER you purchased the item from.

Under 6 months and any fault is legally assumed to have been there from day 1 and is therefore deemed to not be "Fit for Purpose" and not "Of Merchantable Quality" and you can expect a replacement.

Over 6 months old and you can legally expect a free repair (retailers are NOT legally obliged to replace).

Now, if you develop a fault after 12 months, then the onus is on [/i]YOU[/i] to PROVE the fault is premature and that the item has not lasted a reasonable amount of time.

To do this, you'd have to get an independent engineer's report to support your CLAIM (which you would have to pay for) and then log a claim In the courts (via the government website) to have your case heard by a judge.

Assuming the judge agrees with your claim that your premium £800 iPhone should not have died after 13 months, then you win the case, the retailer is liable and the judge assigns costs.

However, if the retailer were to win (let's say water damage is found), then you are liable.

I CANT STRESS THIS NEXT BIT ENOUGH...

You do not have a 2 year warranty on your iPhone.

UK law gives you a year (Statutary rights), plus the ability to make a CLAIM up to 6 years after you bought the item.

John Lewis give you 2 years. The 2nd year is IN ADDITION TO YOUR STATUTARY RIGHTS.

Apple give you 12 months warranty, as they obliged to by law.

Apple WILL NOT automatically replace a faulty device in months 13 to 24.

They may, (because you purchased it from them), but they are NOT legally obliged to.

I would hate to think that anyone in here thinks they've got a 2 year guarantee.
 
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