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Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack
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cue Ives, "Here at Apple, We've done the next Revolutionary step, removing another headphone jack, its antiquated, it doesn't align with progress"
12.9” 4:3 screen is 262x197mm. The 2018 large iPad pro is rumored to be 280x215mm, or (262+2x9)x(197+2x9).
So, I have written 0.9mm instead of 0.9cm, obviously.
The thing is, either the dimensions for the small iPad pro are wrong, or the screen is not 4:3 anymore, or the bezels are not 9mm thick all around the device. There are two sources for the iPad dimensions rumor, plus a whole bunch of site that spread it. It seams no one care to do the math.
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To all of those saying that no one has ever used the headphone jack on the iPad or that you simply don't need it just use bluetooth, try playing inside of garage band using AirPods....
There is a burgeoning audio production community with some amazing support for cool midi instruments (like the roli seaboard) and some fantastic applications (Moog Model 15 and Model D). Bluetooth headphones are completely unusable with these apps. A lot of this also applies to video production apps as well.
Getting rid of the headphone jack was acceptable on the iPhone. They said it essentially was to fit bigger internals like a newly designed Taptic engine. I didn't like it, but I got used to it. Getting rid of it on the iPad is senseless and reckless, especially for such a large device where the space is clearly there. I really hope this is not the case....
There is a burgeoning audio production community with some amazing support for cool midi instruments (like the roli seaboard) and some fantastic applications (Moog Model 15 and Model D). Bluetooth headphones are completely unusable with these apps. A lot of this also applies to video production apps as well.
Getting rid of the headphone jack was acceptable on the iPhone. They said it essentially was to fit bigger internals like a newly designed Taptic engine. I didn't like it, but I got used to it. Getting rid of it on the iPad is senseless and reckless, especially for such a large device where the space is clearly there. I really hope this is not the case....
Apple's upcoming iPad Pro could be one of its thinnest devices yet, measuring in at just 5.9mm thick, based on details shared by a leaker on Twitter who previously provided accurate details on the iPhone XS and XR ahead of launch.
According to Twitter user CoinCoin, the upcoming iPad Pro will measure in at just 5.9mm, and due to its thinness, there will be no room for Apple to include a headphone jack.
The 5.9mm estimate matches up with alleged iPad Pro dimensions shared yesterday on Slashleaks, which suggested the new iPad Pro would measure 5.86mm thick.
It is also in line with current iPad Pro measurements. The existing 10.5-inch iPad Pro is 6.1mm thick, so it would make sense for a new model to be somewhat thinner.
It's likely the 5.9mm estimate applies to the smaller of the two 2018 iPad Pro models that Apple is expected to introduce, which could be somewhere around 10.5 to 11 inches in size. Apple's current 12.9-inch iPad Pro is thicker than the 10.5-inch version, measuring in at 6.9mm thick.
The iPad Pro dimensions shared on Slashleaks yesterday suggest the smaller iPad Pro will be 7 inches wide (178.52mm) and 9.7 inches tall (247.64mm), while the larger model will be 8.5 inches wide (215mm) and 11 inches tall (280.66mm).
We've seen similar dimension estimates in earlier rumors from Japanese site Mac Otakara, suggesting the smaller iPad Pro will measure in at 247.5mm tall, 178.7mm wide, and 6mm thick, while the larger model will measure 280mm tall, 215mm wide, and 6.4mm thick.
Comparatively, the current 10.5-inch iPad Pro measures in at 6.8 inches wide (174.1mm) by 9.8 inches tall (250.6mm), while the 12.9-inch model measures in at 8.68 inches wide (220.6mm) by 12 inches tall (305.7mm).
Bezels on the new tablets could measure in right around 6mm at the top, bottom, and sides, with the 7.2mm measurement on the Slashleaks document perhaps referring to bezel thickness with side button included.
Multiple prior rumors have indeed suggested that the next-generation iPad Pro models will feature slimmer bezels all the way around, with the top bezel housing a TrueDepth camera system for Face ID. The bottom bezel is slimmer than in existing models because Apple plans to remove the Home button.
Coming back to the prediction of no headphone jack, this isn't the first time we've heard that rumor. Back in July, Mac Otakara also said that the upcoming iPad Pro models will not include a headphone jack. iPhone models have not offered a headphone jack since the iPhone 7, with Apple instead encouraging customers to use Bluetooth headphones like the AirPods or Lightning-based solutions.
The info shared on Slashleaks is likely from a case maker and because it's supported with data obtained from other sources, it's quite possibly accurate. Aside from the dimensions of the new iPad Pro models, the info also confirms the presence of a new Smart Connector at the back of the two tablets.
Other 2018 iPad Pro rumors suggest the device will feature a USB-C port instead of a Lightning port, a faster A12X chip, and support for a second-generation Apple Pencil.
It's not clear when the new iPad Pro models will be announced, but their debut is likely coming soon. We're expecting Apple to hold an event at some point in October, with the end of October looking like the most probable option.
Article Link: Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack
Apple's upcoming iPad Pro could be one of its thinnest devices yet, measuring in at just 5.9mm thick, based on details shared by a leaker on Twitter who previously provided accurate details on the iPhone XS and XR ahead of launch.
According to Twitter user CoinCoin, the upcoming iPad Pro will measure in at just 5.9mm, and due to its thinness, there will be no room for Apple to include a headphone jack.
The 5.9mm estimate matches up with alleged iPad Pro dimensions shared yesterday on Slashleaks, which suggested the new iPad Pro would measure 5.86mm thick.
It is also in line with current iPad Pro measurements. The existing 10.5-inch iPad Pro is 6.1mm thick, so it would make sense for a new model to be somewhat thinner.
It's likely the 5.9mm estimate applies to the smaller of the two 2018 iPad Pro models that Apple is expected to introduce, which could be somewhere around 10.5 to 11 inches in size. Apple's current 12.9-inch iPad Pro is thicker than the 10.5-inch version, measuring in at 6.9mm thick.
The iPad Pro dimensions shared on Slashleaks yesterday suggest the smaller iPad Pro will be 7 inches wide (178.52mm) and 9.7 inches tall (247.64mm), while the larger model will be 8.5 inches wide (215mm) and 11 inches tall (280.66mm).
We've seen similar dimension estimates in earlier rumors from Japanese site Mac Otakara, suggesting the smaller iPad Pro will measure in at 247.5mm tall, 178.7mm wide, and 6mm thick, while the larger model will measure 280mm tall, 215mm wide, and 6.4mm thick.
Comparatively, the current 10.5-inch iPad Pro measures in at 6.8 inches wide (174.1mm) by 9.8 inches tall (250.6mm), while the 12.9-inch model measures in at 8.68 inches wide (220.6mm) by 12 inches tall (305.7mm).
Bezels on the new tablets could measure in right around 6mm at the top, bottom, and sides, with the 7.2mm measurement on the Slashleaks document perhaps referring to bezel thickness with side button included.
Multiple prior rumors have indeed suggested that the next-generation iPad Pro models will feature slimmer bezels all the way around, with the top bezel housing a TrueDepth camera system for Face ID. The bottom bezel is slimmer than in existing models because Apple plans to remove the Home button.
Coming back to the prediction of no headphone jack, this isn't the first time we've heard that rumor. Back in July, Mac Otakara also said that the upcoming iPad Pro models will not include a headphone jack. iPhone models have not offered a headphone jack since the iPhone 7, with Apple instead encouraging customers to use Bluetooth headphones like the AirPods or Lightning-based solutions.
The info shared on Slashleaks is likely from a case maker and because it's supported with data obtained from other sources, it's quite possibly accurate. Aside from the dimensions of the new iPad Pro models, the info also confirms the presence of a new Smart Connector at the back of the two tablets.
Other 2018 iPad Pro rumors suggest the device will feature a USB-C port instead of a Lightning port, a faster A12X chip, and support for a second-generation Apple Pencil.
It's not clear when the new iPad Pro models will be announced, but their debut is likely coming soon. We're expecting Apple to hold an event at some point in October, with the end of October looking like the most probable option.
Article Link: Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack
I just laid this out in affinity designer and those dimensions with 6mm bezels all round would give the smaller iPad an 11.5” screen.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comme...e_apple_pencil_might/?st=JN66RO2Y&sh=2f8c772e
about pencil 2 charging method, can this be true? charging and holding method for the new pencil.
about pencil 2 charging method, can this be true? charging and holding method for the new pencil.
and the screen loose the 4:3 ratio, so a change in definition would be mandatory.
I would imagine some model of iPad would have to keep the jack intact, given that these are often used and marketed towards schools, which aren't likely to find bluetooth headphones or earbuds a good alternative. But, the pro version likely isn't the one most schools would select, so I could see this happening.
I’m LMAO this morning reading this....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-headphone-jack/amp/
What’s funny is how hard Samsung and fans trolled Apple for removing the 3.5 mm headphone jack and now is going to serve themselves the biggest plate of crow anyone can eat!
Wait, make room at the table with all the androids
with notches too. LOL. 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-headphone-jack/amp/
What’s funny is how hard Samsung and fans trolled Apple for removing the 3.5 mm headphone jack and now is going to serve themselves the biggest plate of crow anyone can eat!
Wait, make room at the table with all the androids
with notches too. LOL. 
Maybe I can chime in with how I use my iPad.
I use my iPad to teach in the classroom and as such have a habit of walking around with iPad in hand. All other things equal, a thinner and lighter tablet is a more portable one for me, especially if you have held one on stage for more than three hours at a stretch (I have used it to read and edit my emcee script while rehearsing for school events).
I do use the headphone jack from time to time (typically when doing presentations), but have managed to move away from it in my classrooms as I have Apple TVs mounted on the walls and have come to really love airplay mirroring.
Maybe Apple will finally get round to releasing a vga adaptor with an audio jack built in. I admit that if the headphone jack is removed from the iPad, I will be impacted to some extent, but I am willing to see this as an opportunity to evolve my workflow as circumstances dictate.
I guess I am a hopeless Apple fanboy in this regard, but I most definitely do not work for Apple, certainly am not rich, and well, you decide if my use case is representative of the mass consumer or not.
While a bit disheartening, we could hold our outrage until the actual reveal when we know for sure, right? This is still a rumor.
I really hope these new iPads come out soon. I have grown to hate my 12.9” iPads form factor and would really like the 10.5” one but don’t want to buy a soon to be outdated model!
I really hope these new iPads come out soon. I have grown to hate my 12.9” iPads form factor and would really like the 10.5” one but don’t want to buy a soon to be outdated model!
whats new? google made fun about apple when they released the pixel 1 and after 1 year....it's typical..I’m LMAO this morning reading this....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-headphone-jack/amp/
What’s funny is how hard Samsung and fans trolled Apple for removing the 3.5 mm headphone jack and now is going to serve themselves the biggest plate of crow anyone can eat!
Wait, make room at the table with all the androids
others like dell asus and samsung, made fun of apple for removing optical drive from macbook air and imacs..or the biggest of all the flash support for iphone...and now all are on html 5....so nothing new Apple is the lead trending because it has the biggest fan base and they can have "courage"
”Can’t innovate my ass!”
I work in TV production/video editing and wired headphones are still the standard - they offer better, consistent quality.
iPad Pros are great devices and many in the industry use them outside the studio to review what’s been shot.
But no one I know relies on Bluetooth/Airpods - the quality is hit and miss. Not to mention having to ensure the darn things are properly charged to last all day or that they don’t get misplaced amongst the gear.
Dropping the mic jack will certainly irritate many in my industy.
I work in TV production/video editing and wired headphones are still the standard - they offer better, consistent quality.
iPad Pros are great devices and many in the industry use them outside the studio to review what’s been shot.
But no one I know relies on Bluetooth/Airpods - the quality is hit and miss. Not to mention having to ensure the darn things are properly charged to last all day or that they don’t get misplaced amongst the gear.
Dropping the mic jack will certainly irritate many in my industy.
Logic and facts are not welcome around here. Please leave.
Apple can call the ipad any name it wants and include any hardware it wants. The debate around the "pro" moniker and headphone jack is a red-herring. The consumer will vote with their wallet.
I don't care if there is a headphone jack, but I do, sometimes, want to use my earpods and expect the same quality of sound as if using the headphone jack.
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You are completely correct and I will miss the headphone jack. I don't use it often but it is certainly nice when I do have to quickly edit some audio and don't have (or don't want to hook up) my Apogee ONE. However, I have a growing suspicion that either Logic X or FCP X will be ported to iOS soon and so Apple may address this issue. Whether it will be universal or just for their apps. . . who knows?
Hmmm. Shouldn’t have upgraded iPads last year.
It’s obnoxious because they changed the form factor of the smaller one in 2017 and they are going to change it in again in 2018.
It’s obnoxious because they changed the form factor of the smaller one in 2017 and they are going to change it in again in 2018.
Well you might have a hard time deciding when the new ones come out. If rumors are correct, the 12.9” will be shrinking significantly in size by slimming the bezels while the 10.5” will become an 11” screen with slimmer bezels. Could be a real toss up.
I use the headphone jack all the time. I check my (music) mixdowns on different headphones and speakers on the go everywhere when I’m not in a studio, as part of my workflow. I also have the iphone x, which need the adapter to do the same thing.
The iphone has a millimeter of the camera sticking out on the back, so if that is ok for apple it should also be fine with a corner little thicker with room for a jack sticking out back there.
But again, apple keep removing features I need (if this rumor is true), so I look more and more to other products now.
The iphone has a millimeter of the camera sticking out on the back, so if that is ok for apple it should also be fine with a corner little thicker with room for a jack sticking out back there.
But again, apple keep removing features I need (if this rumor is true), so I look more and more to other products now.
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So for those who still use wired headphones, now you have to use a dongle or pay for a wireless headphones? IIRC, I thought Apple said they are being green? How is requiring to recharge a wireless headphone being green? A wired headphone would be green.
IMO, Apple want to do away with phone jacks in hoping customers would buy the AirPods just to make more money. If you want to pay more money for wireless, that's your choice to spend your money but there still people out there that still uses wired.