They’ve never provided earbuds before. And if they provide an adapter, many of us who travel will need separate earphones and or adapters for our iPhone, Mac, and iPad. It’s lunacy.
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Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack
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They’ve never provided earbuds before. And if they provide an adapter, many of us who travel will need separate earphones and or adapters for our iPhone, Mac, and iPad. It’s lunacy.
I actually do come from the beginning of electronic audio time, & you are only partially correct, Sir.
Adapters are normally only required when needing to connect a device with an input or output that it does not regularly have to deal with (I quote "turn-arounds" or "Unbalanced to balanced" as examples)
Output to a regular pair of headphones by an audio device capable of output falls outside those parameters.
I wish the would make a version of iPad with no camera. I've never used it on iPad. Also prefer no hump.
The problem with that is its Apple. They'll engineer a way to make it painless only if you use their headphones on their device. I'm not going to buy a pair of headphones just to use on an iOS device. If Im going to plunk down the money for a set of decent headphones, I want that painless experience regardless if I'm using my headphones with an iPad Pro or my Windows PC.
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I am actually thinking of designing a hair-transplant technique that places a dark square of hair between the eyebrows & extends down to the base of the nose. I will call it "The Notch". People will complain about it, & then queue up in their millions to get one.
Not quite the same but I think Samsung already proactively copied your idea with the guy in the Apple spoof commercials...
And then a little later with his kid...
Love or hate Samsung: I thought that little poke at us Apple people was FUNNNNNNNNNNNN-ny!
They needed to make it thinner otherwise the rear camera would not bump out.
Well yeah... but it costs like 50cents to get it. Can you imagine all these millions of dollars saved by Cook. Mind blown...
Did I say 1000$ headphones? Even a 100$ pair of wired headphones sound better than 150$ Airpods.
I agree, for one big reason
Ah, the joy of watching people with Tablets at Music Concerts. Hold them over their head, Film or stream the Whole thing (I mean, who can go to sleep at night without their Facepalm account having more likes than the night before?). People cannot see? Who cares? Look at my mighty stream!!
Of course, we are nearly at the point where "phablets rule the Earth"
(The Film Idiocracy was supposed to be set in a time centuries in the future, but here we are, folks!)
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Yep...Not quite the same but I think Samsung already proactively copied your idea with the guy in the Apple spoof commercials...
And then a little later with his kid...
Love or hate Samsung: I thought that little poke at us Apple people was FUNNNNNNNNNNNN-ny!
Just a little bit lower...
But not too low..
Black oblong hair pieces can lead to World Wars if placed incorrectly!
Wired charging is more than 100 years old. Remove the lightning port, courage!
I do not care so much about the headphone jack but am p|ssed that Apple keep going with this thin crap! We have sacrificed so much for this march to thin! If nothing more add more battery, do not need it thinner!
If the dimension is going to be smaller and thinner while maintaining the same screen size, how are you going to do that without sacrificing battery life?
I’m glad for those who like or use AirPods. But from the comments and likes I am seeing here the majority are not lovers of these nasty sounding little things. Count me in that group. What is so wrong with trying to keep more people happy if it does not mess up the basic product. I like my wired cans for many reasons most important being they sound good. Convenience be damned. I want good sound and a comfortable experience. I get it if Apple does not care about me and the many like me. I get it if the Apple lovers think they know what is best for the rest of us. It’s called choice,and acceptance. But mr cook...my next choice will be to switch to a company and system that while less elegant is way more inclusive. And will allow me to work the way I want to. Not the way Jonny I need thin Ives sees my future.
All iPAD versions last the same 10 hours (of video playback - this varies depending of your settings and what you are using for), from the 1st (released in 2010) to the last one. This is something that NEVER CHANGED in almost a decade.
And I don't think it will no matter what is released, even the Galaxy Tab S4 had a similar result despite Samsung claiming it could last 16 hours.
This is the one of the things that would make me want a new iPAD, not cosmetic changes that aren't worth paying for the same device again. The current iPAD is more than enough to meet everyone's needs, unless you are talking about CPU/GPU power, but that's another matter. Sacrificing the headphone jack with the pathetic excuse of making it thinner and lighter won't convince anyone except fanboys.
Samsung has had a better water and dust resistance rating than Apple for a few years now and they didn't need to jettison the headphone jack to get there.
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If wireless technology were advanced enough to create reliably great sound quality over bluetooth you would have a point. But it isn't, so you don't.
Lightning headphones cannot be used with any other device. The selection of headphones with Lightning is considerably more limited. If someone wants to carry one pair of headphones to use on the iPhone, iPad and Mac or PC, or anything else, there are no adapters made for Lightning headphones to 3.5mm or even USB-C. Maybe Apple will remedy this with the introduction of the new iPad, but I sort of doubt it.
Also, there’s no way to use two Lightning headphones at the same time to share a movie on an iPad, or listen to audio books or music with another person. There literally is no such adapter.
The only way to solve these problems is to use Apples lightning adapter and plug in a standard pair of headphones. An adapter must be purchased to use Lightning connections while charging the iPad, a common situation on long haul air flights, or just an evening watching movies or playing video games, working with audio video apps, or other processor intensive activities.
And as far as I know, there’s no lightning adapter to allow two Lightning devices to share the port at the same time, like an external Microphone pre-amp, and midi interface, etc. leaving no place to plug the Lightning headphones either ...
AirPods are great, but they aren’t perfect for everything, especially on the iPad. For starters they are lower quality than uncompressed audio over a wire. Maybe not important for casual listening, but essential for professional audio work, or full fidelity movie watching, and higher quality headphones which can make the distinction.
AirPods have no low latency option. This means they can’t be used for gaming, or audio recording.
AirPods can’t be paired to the same source so you and your wife can watch the same movie on the iPad together, or listen to an audio book, or music simultaneously.
AirPods can be paired to other BT devices, but because of the low latency issue, will not be able to even watch movies in audio sync because Apple relies on their own hardware to maintain sync.
So if it is really a USB C port then at least we can use USB C headphones - and these will work across devices with USB C - so that’s a step up from lightning, however, we then have the whole thing with not being able to use your iphone’s bundled lightning EarPods with the iPad so you have to make the extra purchase either way
I don’t want to be one of the ‘in Steve’s day’ guys but really I think the apple of 2008 would have worked this out before starting to chop things out and making their lineup a mess of differing standards...
I don’t want to be one of the ‘in Steve’s day’ guys but really I think the apple of 2008 would have worked this out before starting to chop things out and making their lineup a mess of differing standards...
That's a bogus argument. All those external DACs burn batteries faster. I'd rather just have a working headphone jack and non-battery dependent headphones.
Next Macs may not have a headphone jack, then you can just use USB-C for 2/3
If I traveled with an iphone, Mac, and iPad I'd just use Airpods, incredibly convenient when switching between Apple devices. If I had some super high performance audiophile headphones for $1000+, i'd just have a couple little $9 dongles that somehow I'd be able to cart around in whatever I'm carrying both a laptop and iPad in.