Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack

[lkrupp]

Sorry, but Apple has no business calling this "Pro" if they pull the headphone jack. They would be much better off pulling their heads out of their a%^&s than the headphone jack from something that audio and video professionals are supposed to use.

So audio and video “professionals" prefer two channel analog over multi-channel digital? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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So for those who still use wired headphones, now you have to use a dongle or pay for a wireless headphones? IIRC, I thought Apple said they are being green? How is requiring to recharge a wireless headphone being green? A wired headphone would be green.


IMO, Apple want to do away with phone jacks in hoping customers would buy the AirPods just to make more money. If you want to pay more money for wireless, that's your choice to spend your money but there still people out there that still uses wired.

Then they can use a dongle or simply buy some other tablet with a headphone jack. Of course people are not buying other tablets are they. The iPad dominates the tablet market and Android still sucks on tablets.

 

[Shiro_Simba]

Apple can call the ipad any name it wants and include any hardware it wants. The debate around the "pro" moniker and headphone jack is a red-herring. The consumer will vote with their wallet.

I don't care if there is a headphone jack, but I do, sometimes, want to use my earpods and expect the same quality of sound as if using the headphone jack.

I understand you point , that they can call it what they want , I agree.

My point is that, Apple has not dropped the headphone jack from its computers, and continues to add it, in its newest machines , that are being sold for “pro” work. BT ha not ready replace wired for certain workflows

Debate is not a red herring in my opinion , cause Apple is advertising the iPad Pro as a desktop / laptop replacement.... if you have every tried to deal with syncing/delay issues over BT, you will understand the issue here .

I don’t care about the headphone jack, but there is a big difference between listening to music and a creative workflow with BT headphones . Though you will be able to buy dongles so that the lightning port is used for headphones , and charger at the same time , so this is how I see apple solving the issue and selling accessories.

If headphone jack goes, I’m fine with it. I don’t view the iPad Pro as a laptop replacement , my mbp stays

 

[Geordiekeith]

No one??? Really? Because I see people using wired headphones while traveling on Planes all the time.

Exactly. Reading this in an airport waiting to board a flight during which I will read a book on my iPad mini, while listening to music on wired noise-cancelling headphones. I am sure I will see lots of other passengers watching movies on tablets, not all iPads, and using wired headphones.

The comment that gets me is "The existing 10.5-inch iPad Pro is 6.1mm thick, so it would make sense for a new model to be somewhat thinner." At what point does it makes sense not to be thinner every time? When it is so thin it means you slice into your fingers when you hold it? Ergonomics dictate a certain set of dimensions for best handling, and the thinness of a piece of paper is not what an iPad needs.

 

[I7guy]

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Debate is not a red herring in my opinion , cause Apple is advertising the iPad Pro as a desktop / laptop replacement.... if you have every tried to deal with syncing/delay issues over BT, you will understand the issue here ...

This is an important point about this conversation. For an ipad to be a desktop/laptop replacement it would have to perform every function as my windows or mbp box. Does anybody really believe there is a one for one equivalence, especially with multi-core windows configurations?

There is a probably a pretty good overlap between the functionality of a windows based computer and an ipad.

I could probably build a house with a shovel, hammer and bucket of nails, but power equipment is more appropriate. But there are times when a shovel, hammer and nails would be more appropriate than power equipment. (go ahead rip the analogy apart )

 

[theluggage]

Ever since purchasing a set of B&O wireless headphones i haven't once thought about not having a headphone jack until this story.

With your wireless headphones on, fire up GarageBand, open a piano keyboard or something and play a few notes... you should see the problem - if only because there's a little pop-up dialog that explains the problem. Or, fire up a game and enjoy the 1-2 second lag between an action and the sound.

People just listening to pre-recorded music don't care about the Bluetooth lag, and apps playing pre-recorded video automagically delay the video slightly so the audio stays in sync. For anything that involves sound being generated interactively, bluetooth headphones are about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.

So, if you want a giant iPod for keeping up with the Kardashians, that's fine - but so much for "why would you buy a PC anymore?" (although that was a stupid statement to begin with).

However, I have a growing suspicion that either Logic X or FCP X will be ported to iOS soon

Well, they've already got GarageBand for iPad which is a significant subset of Logic Pro and just as useless with bluetooth cans.

Of course, there's always USB-C headphones (if the USB-C rumor is true - shame about those Lightning phones you've just got for your iPhone) which is fine until you need to connect power and/or MIDI at the same time, so soon you've got a honking great multiport dongle hanging off your iPad, ruining its hand-held portability and raising the question of "why would you buy a iPad anymore (when a Mac would do this so much better)?"

Seems to me that Garageband and iMovie are about the right level of sophistication for the "niche" that tablets are good at - full-FCPX users are going to rely on external storage and serious cameras, and Logic Pro X users are highly likely to want to hook up pro audio interfaces, MIDI gear etc.

Once you have to tether your iPad to a brick, its time to switch to a proper laptop - and maybe use the iPad as a touch controller....

 

[Abazigal]

What’s the point of making the iPad thinner if the camera bump stays protruding??

Most people are going to be using a case with their iPad anyways.

 

[GoodWheaties]

So audio and video “professionals" prefer two channel analog over multi-channel digital? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Just how many ears do you have???

 

[himanshumodi]

Apple- No one cares if the iPad is a sliver thicker so that the camera sites flush with the body. Please stop with the protruding cameras!!!!

I am more bothered by the jutting camera than the lack of a 3.5 mm jack. If there isn't enough space to keep it flush, kill the back camera if you want. It will also put an end to people taking pictures with their iPad... which can only be good for the world.

 

[cmaier]

Ok I've thought about it a lot and I'm definitely buying the new 12.9" Pro. The dimensions of 8.5" x 11" are the same as a standard letter sized piece of paper, so it's really easy to make a mockup of the size, lol. I put it under my 10.5" Pro and it's not really that big of a difference.

Most of the complaints that I've heard about the 12.9" iPad Pro are the sort of lever action of the heavier size and the width when trying to hold it. Being an inch less wide and a little thinner should yield a lighter device that is easier to wield and doesn't feel so clunky in hand.

I want the 12.9" size for four reasons:

• Full sized iPad apps when multitasking
• Better for drawing
• Websites look more like they do on the MacBook Pro due to using larger breakpoints
• I'm finding myself doing more photo editing in Lightroom CC on my iPad which has a lot of toolbar menus that take up space

I've avoided it thus far because of the size and weight. But this seems like a good way to get what I want without as many compromises.

I am definitely thinking the same thing. I’ve owned every other size. My favorite was the mini, but since they aren’t updating it anymore, it doesn’t support pencil and likely wouldn’t be the greatest size for that anyway, and given since then I’ve moved to plus/max sized iPhones, I moved to the iPad pros. My use case changed, and I started using it much more for real work with the Smart Keyboard, and now I find myself wishing that my 10.5” pro was bigger. I avoided the big pro because of its weight. As long as the new one took some weight off when it was shrunk, it is looking super compelling to me.

 

[MyopicPaideia]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but if all the bezels are being reduced, and the same resolution is being used...why a wider and shorter iPad? Shouldn’t it just be shorter?

How much would they need to widen it to make the 10.5” screen an 11” one at the same resolution? would a .2” widening be enough?

 

[cmaier]

Isn't it shallow to favor beauty over functionality?

Beauty is function.

War is peace.

Hotdogs is sandwiches.

 

[Arty6]

More people will be mad about the lack of a headphone jack than the number of people who would have used the jack if it were included.

No statement on any forum or comments section of any article has ever been more true. I say this without any exaggeration or hyperbole.

 

[rowspaxe]

Okay my mistake. Its been awhile since I bought an iPad. Anyway people can use a lightning headphone that came with their phone or any headset with a dongle..

ipads never shipped with earbuds, bud

 

[gavroche]

Air Canada forbids using Bluetooth headphones at any phase during a flight on their Dash-8 series birds. So much for using my iPad on my flights.

haven't read all the way down yet... so probably someone already responded to you... but I'm curious why using the lightning headphone is not an option for you? They work exactly the same. I sometimes grab the lightning ones for iohone from my drawer by accident.. and they work no differently.

 

[cmaier]

haven't read all the way down yet... so probably someone already responded to you... but I'm curious why using the lightning headphone is not an option for you? They work exactly the same. I sometimes grab the lightning ones for iohone from my drawer by accident.. and they work no differently.

The new iPads are rumored not to have lightning ports. Usb-c instead. So now you need two types of adapters and need to swap between them.

 

[gavroche]

Considering that the last of my wired headphones recently broke, I am cool with this. My next headphone purchase will be the Apple AirPods. I am done with wired headphones.

I just got airpods for the wife and me. I never would have believed how awesome they are. For one, I always got so tired of having to untangle the cords. And more importantly, we have three little kids, who constantly yank the cords, pulling them out of our ears. And the wife loves not having to hold/carry the phone around the house while listening to her talk shows. She sets it in middle of room. So cool.

 

[cmaier]

I just got airpods for the wife and me. I never would have believed how awesome they are. For one, I always got so tired of having to untangle the cords. And more importantly, we have three little kids, who constantly yank the cords, pulling them out of our ears. And the wife loves not having to hold/carry the phone around the house while listening to her talk shows. She sets it in middle of room. So cool.

Yeah with airpods I don’t need my kids to yank them out of my ears. They just constantly fall out on their own.

 

[gavroche]

The new iPads are rumored not to have lightning ports. Usb-c instead. So now you need two types of adapters and need to swap between them.

Yea, but if that is the case, im sure they will supply them with a wired set. Or they likely would not cost but $5. I know this will still cause some to grumble... but I really prefer to see technology advance, as opposed to staying the same to not upset a few people.
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Yeah with airpods I don’t need my kids to yank them out of my ears. They just constantly fall out on their own.

Odd. Never fall out for either of us.

 

[iapplelove]

I use my iPad on the treadmill every morning... with a wired pair of headphones.

I still won’t be upset in the least if they remove the jack, since I already have a lightning to headphone adapter

If they switch to usbC they make cheap adapters for headphones as well.

 

[gavroche]

No, as a pro I use Sound Devices gear, mostly. But I'm not going to carry around external devices all the time. Sometimes I just need to freaking plug in a set of real headphones. How does an existing headphone jack inconvenience you?

Honest question (as I don't know the answer)... do the lightning versión of headphones have lower sounds quality or something?

 

[InuNacho]

I can't wait for the Apple Car. No steering wheel because it's over 50 years old.

 

[MacBH928]

Thinner ≠ better. As a portable device, it needs to be sturdy, not as flimsy as an A4 paper.

I got Air2 and its as thin and as nice it can get.

 

[Falhófnir]

Hopefully they will at least bundle the lightning to 3.5mm adapter for a couple of generations oh wait, this is post Ebenezer Scrooge taking over from TC as CFO

 

[ValO]

All this wining about the headphone jack.
Some people are saying that they will be looking at other tablets, with headphone jack.

And guess what: last years iPad pro’ s are the best tablets around with a headphone jack, and still will be the best in the next 6 months or so.

You want to get s surface? Next year: no headphone jack, google ? Already skipped the headphone jack. Samsung? Next year a headphone jack or not?

So my best bet would be an iPad Pro 2017. Still a great and fast tablet.

 

[KPandian1]

Wonder if the Apple marketing department understands that most iPads travel in backpacks! The thinner the product the fragile it is even if it is made with titanium.

The iPad does NOT need to lose any weight.

Reducing the weight of the product doesn't mean it has to be thinner - and that is how the portability of the iPad or the MacBook lineup figure.