Yeah, and an insignificant amount of energy will be wasted in the process. Yes, that is sarcasm.
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Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack
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Yeah, and an insignificant amount of energy will be wasted in the process. Yes, that is sarcasm.
I never understood that. No other airlines have nagged me about this. Might be related to the plane type.
I make it a point to wear them until I get notified and play dumb.
*sigh* I was hoping no one was going to suggest an adapter as an adequate solution. It’s not. First, you’d have to use a Y adapter because professional editing software demands high power and editors typically work long hours, so you’d have to charge while using the headphones. But to the point, adapters are an added nuisance (and an eye-sore), and requiring them (with no end in sight) sends the clear message: “your use case is not the intended use case of this device.” Of course that is Apple’s prerogative. My point is simply that taking out the port lessens its potential to be used in this rather large profession.
Man goes to the genius bar, asks the person, can you please listen to my iPad audio with the earbuds?
Why?
Just listen
Is there a problem with the audio?
Just listen
Can you describe what the problem is with the sound?
Please, just listen
Ok, ok ... where’s the audio jack
Aghaaaaa
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Why?
Just listen
Is there a problem with the audio?
Just listen
Can you describe what the problem is with the sound?
Please, just listen
Ok, ok ... where’s the audio jack
Aghaaaaa
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I completely agree about the I/O divergence. This wouldn't be my ideal setup, but Apple could improve things greatly simply by making sure every device has USB C and a headphone jack. USB C for data and charging across all devices (no more lightning), and a headphone jack for audio. It blows my mind that the iPhones still use lightning over USB C. I don't think Steve Jobs would tolerate that nonsense (certainly not in his earlier days).
No one in professional (either live or recording) audio uses Bluetooth, it's too prone to issues. They use a 3.5mm jack into the mixer. It's really stupid how many people are so blinded by Apple's decisions. Just because some people don't use it doesn't mean everyone doesn't. I don't understand what's so inconvenient about having a jack that you don't use, when it's incredibly inconvenient to lose a jack that you DO use. I do a lot of work in the audio industry and there's ALWAYS a device for music plugged into the mixer via a 3.5mm jack. It may be an old connector, but it's hardly outdated. It's more of a case of not over-complicating things.
What's also stupid is that they pushed lightning with really expensive lighting wired headphones for so long (for a while there, they were selling some for $1,000), that you can't even use on your brand new MacBook Pro, and now theoretically you won't be able to use them on your brand new iPad? This is my beef with ever buying headphones with a proprietary connector.
My wife has AudioTechnica ATH-M50x headphones (she mixes audio). No professional would use bluetooth. The latency isn't there. The artifacting is trash. I doubt any actual audiophiles listen wirelessly. Wireless is not as good as wired. It's just not. Some may find it to be good enough, but it's not as good. People who say it is don't know how to discern the difference, and have bought into hype.
Also hilariously, all sound signals eventually turn back into analog copper anyways. So the fact that some people think the digital output of lightning headphones are inherently better baffles me. The only way they're better is if the DAC is better. But otherwise, you've just moved the DAC from inside the device, to inside every pair of headphones you own, and call it progress, when in reality, it gets turned into the same stereo analog signal about 12 inches later than it used to.
To my knowledge the improvements have been more in range rather than latency. Latency would have to be pretty much zero for it to be acceptable and it doesn’t seem like there has been much advancement toward that.
The other issue I totally forgot to mention is file compression. I don’t see a lot of editors settling for any kind of lossy compression.
Those who actually travel by air know that to use airplane's entertainment system one needs wired phones (preferably noise cancelling and definitely not airpods).
They gave away over a half a billion, who doesn't have one though, or who can't buy one for $9? It's good for the environment that Apple stopped giving them away as the studies show that the vast majority of people just use the included earbuds, and of those who don't, the vast majority have switched to wireless. Thus, putting hundreds of millions of unneeded adapters into consumers desk drawers or left in the boxes is wasteful.
All the Y adapters I have found don't seem to be officially supported, and because of bad experiences with such unsupported hardware in the past, I haven't purchased one. All the possibly-supported adapters I have found that can charge the phone while listening to audio have a huge clunky dongle attached that has both ports in it. I don't see ANYTHING, clunky or otherwise, on Apple's website that allows both audio and charging to happen at the same time. It's like they don't want to admit this problem exists.
Anyway, if anyone does know of a great adapter that achieves this goal without a clunky dongle, please let me know so I can buy it.
I’m really hoping the new rumored SmartConnector will act as an optional chafing port, as well as physical audio/data port. Inductive charging would be great as well, which hasn’t really been discussed. Is there room to put a coil in there? If so, it’s an ideal charging solution. I wouldn’t mind switching to a magnetic pad for all my Apple device charging needs.
The bigger issue to using processor intensive apps, is not just accommodating a pair of headphones without a dongle, but how to do it with audio gear where you need to use two outboard devices like a mic preamp and midi interface. Right now there’s not even a way to use two Lightning headphones at the same time, dongle or no, and that’s less a pro feature than sharing a movie or music on a long flight.
Sure, half a billion people have accepted the elimination of the port, but how many sales haven't occurred because the port doesn't exist? We'll never know, but I personally have reduced my purchases of Apple devices because of this. So there's at least a few. Also, no one has asked me about my satisfaction with Apple devices. I'm skeptical about the numbers that come out. And even if they are actually that good, most people probably have to convince themselves they love the device because they just spent a huge amount of money on it. This is a well-known psychological phenomenon, as I understand it.
Anyway, tangled cords aren't an issue. Just tie the bundled cord in a knot and you are good to go.
ugh...
Obviously, yes, having more options is nice. Also, having the most pristine audio quality available... Something fanboys (not saying u are one) can't get in their head: bluetooth audio IS NOT AND PROBABLY WILL NEVER BE as good as a wired connection.
LOL. You're comment shows you must not have flown on any major airline for some time. All of them have adopted wireless on board as an option for their distribution as it is much cheaper than installing and maintaining seat back screens, especially as the vast, vast majority of people are bringing their own, much better quality screen with them. They also know that it is vastly easier to get someone to purchase an item, like a premium movie, on their own device than to try and get them to use a card on one of the old seat back screen sets. They all have apps that you download and then can stream their free and paid movies and TV right to any device you have. It's what happens with free enterprise; they have to offer it to be competitive, (plus they want to take your mind off your uncomfortably cramped seating
).If you do start flying again, check it out and welcome to the post wired world of flying where you don't need to be plugged into your arm rest or seat back.
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eww no... as I said, bluetooth audio quality is simply not the same. In fact, Apple promoting the Airpods as having "excellent audio quality" or w/e is deceptive marketing, one could say scamming. It cannot match a wired headphone's audio quality.
I'll never understand why some people support technological change just for the sake of technological change, especially when the technological change is inferior to existing technology.
Agreed.
Uhm, no. Professionals use balanced audio connections (XLR) and if that's not the case, it's a 6.3mm jack.
And no professional would use a M50x either, it's consumer grade gear. You'll find this alot among youtubers and podcasters, but are they really professional? So in the end, what's it all about... professionals or consumer/enthusiasts?
True, but having a better DAC for an iPhone/iPad or any Computer isn't really difficult. The ones inside are simply really bad. It's kind of like comparing the iPhone camera to a good Canon/Nikon/Sony/Fuji/Leica camera. Discussing wireless vs headphone jack in terms of quality is kind of pointless, both options are rather bad choices compared to a digital output with an external DAC.
Here's an example from Belkin that I would guess is supported, but it's ridiculously huge: http://a.co/d/iX5e1ef
If Belkin can't create a nice, clean Y adapter, it's probably because such a design wouldn't be supported by Apple for some reason.
Here's an example of what almost certainly isn't a supported adapter: http://a.co/d/5l2BqKP
Its form factor is what I would be looking for, but many reviewers say that it isn't a supported device (so the phone won't allow it to be used). You can see that the Q&A section doesn't even apply to this product, and that many of the reviews do not either, so the rating is almost certainly fake.
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I’m curious about that new connector myself. I always thought the current smart connector should have been designed with more functionality in mind (charging, high bandwidth data, video).
Right, I’m sure as you get into that kind of audio equipment, the iPad becomes frustrating or impossible to use. I’m sure Apple knows it’s not (and probably never will be) practical for many types of professions. They probably just can’t outright say it because it would damage the brand.
Yes, and even though some airlines are not ordering them on new aircraft, there’s still plenty flying with them. Norwegian in fact utilizes their new system as an in flight payment system for ordering food items. American and United are actually removing them from existing aircraft, but then there are others like Delta: https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/delta-keeping-seatback-screens
Moreover, even if you are using your own iPad, there’s no way to share the movie with anyone else, as there’s no way to pair two wireless headphones to the same iPad, or use two Lightning headphones at the same time. The only way to do it is with a set of 3.5 headphones and a splitter. If the headphone jack is removed, then the Lightning adapter will have to be used, which means you now need an adapter to charge the iPad at the same time.
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Yeah I’d never risk a no name brand for charging. That belkin is quite bulky, but if it works, at least it’s an optional workaround.
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Nothing wrong with making money as long as we're honest about that being what's going on and not making up some crap about the headphone jack being "antiquated."
Belkin offers a clunky dongle that splits to two lightning ports. Does that not work with two lightning headphones simultaneously?
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LOL. You're comment shows you must not have flown on any major airline for some time. All of them have adopted wireless on board as an option for their distribution as it is much cheaper than installing and maintaining seat back screens, especially as the vast, vast majority of people are bringing their own, much better quality screen with them. They also know that it is vastly easier to get someone to purchase an item, like a premium movie, on their own device than to try and get them to use a card on one of the old seat back screen sets. They all have apps that you download and then can stream their free and paid movies and TV right to any device you have. It's what happens with free enterprise; they have to offer it to be competitive, (plus they want to take your mind off your uncomfortably cramped seating
If you do start flying again, check it out and welcome to the post wired world of flying where you don't need to be plugged into your arm rest or seat back.
I fly on a regular basis and that simply isn't true. Some airlines offer what you are talking about, but definitely not even close to all major ones I use.