Very well put. And I agree with your assessment about the only reasonable explanation. I guess many people here probably own some Apple stock, but those that don't shouldn't be defending Apple's bottom line over user experience, and those that do should consider the longer-term impact to Apple's bottom line of putting user experience behind other considerations.
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Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Could Be 5.9mm Thick With No Headphone Jack
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Very well put. And I agree with your assessment about the only reasonable explanation. I guess many people here probably own some Apple stock, but those that don't shouldn't be defending Apple's bottom line over user experience, and those that do should consider the longer-term impact to Apple's bottom line of putting user experience behind other considerations.
That is a telling point - your wireless need is not infringed upon by the presence of an analog audio jack. Wireless audio has been a standard feature long before Apple became "brave".
Making the devices wireless only is an unnecessary step - if need be, Apple can go 3.5 to 2.5. Yes, in the past the 2.5 was fragile - make a better one.
I like very thin wrist watches - now that is a bold step. Apple can't make wrist watches as thin as TWC makes, but they can try to get close. Both factors are addressed here, weight and thinness.
The iPad is not a Phone.
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Yes, but 2.5mm is a dongle too. If there’s a new dongle involved, I’d rather they do something innovative with the SmartConnector.
The ideal iPad would have one USBC port, a wireless charging coil, and a SmartConnector that could be used for optional charging, limited data, and wired audio needs. That would make the iPad a truly versatile professional computing device without limiting anybody’s professional or casual needs.
Yeah, I've had iPads since the day Apple released the iPad 1. Never used the rear facing camera on an iPad
I think you have a well-reasoned argument on removing the jack from the iPhone (unlike many others here), but I don't think it's true that removing it is necessary to achieve what you want. Other phones are more water resistant than the iPhone has been in the past while still having a headphone jack. I also think there is plenty of room inside to innovate and keep the jack (again, other phones do this). It may have taken a tiny amount of innovative effort on Apple's part to make it fit, but I'm pretty sure it would have been easy.
Ok, so you are telling me that I should care. Sorry, really don’ t....
No I rather have a slightly larger battery because of the extra space, a thinner bezel, or thinner iPad. That is what I want. Every square inch/cm/mm counts, and apple doesn’ t seem to have any empty space in its current designs, so they are using that for something that I care about. So it is fine with me, but I understand if someone else is not alright with that.
Sony XM or Bose QC35 will run around 20 hours, the new version of the Sonys around 30 hours. Takes 10 minutes charging time to get 5 hours playback out of them.
man you are funny, u killed it with that edit even more. Somethink like with the “great” MBP, u don’t need anyrhing than USB-C, if u own a bunch of stupid dongles
Yeah, unfortunately that's just one leg on a 3 leg trip. I really love the QC35, very comfortable, but you can't charge and use them at the same time. So for short haul, it's QC35 all the way, on longer trips, I have to augment them with the QC20i. The early reviews of the Sony is that they get hot after a couple of hours of wear. The QC35 doesn't, at least for me.
You got it. Every major airline does. I' got you started with every major US airline, because that should open your eyes to the fact that the world is well beyond having to plug into arm rests and seat backs. It's why the predictions by some of doom for Apple was laughably wrong and why the rest of the industry is following Apple. You may have grown up with your transistor radio, but your grand kids haven't and don't miss that legacy tech. Ditto with wireless charging and fast charging, longer battery times, adapters, etc., the vast majority of people never experienced any problem with charging and listening at the same time, so that "problem" just never materialized in any significant way.
You can Google the rest, but I've flown on many, e.g., British Airways, it's a basic feature of any modern airline. Welcome to the modern world of in flight entertainment. They also now call them flight attendants and not "stewardesses" BTW.
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Why such polarization to make us conform to just one way? Why can't
devices retain enough options to suit a plethora of tastes and preferences?
Like a Swiss Army Knife, it gives you lots of options, some you may not use right now, like the
the fish scaler or hook disgorger. But you'll be happy you have them if ever stranded on a deserted island...haha
A lot of people who say get rid of the headphone jack, just might need it one day. Their air pods might crap out
or be in a situation where using bluetooth is prohibited. Or be in a conference situation where they need to use their
ipad for an impromptu demonstration. Or be at a party and want to connect their music playlist to someone's
sound system.
Vive la différence (la options) !
devices retain enough options to suit a plethora of tastes and preferences?
Like a Swiss Army Knife, it gives you lots of options, some you may not use right now, like the
the fish scaler or hook disgorger. But you'll be happy you have them if ever stranded on a deserted island...haha
A lot of people who say get rid of the headphone jack, just might need it one day. Their air pods might crap out
or be in a situation where using bluetooth is prohibited. Or be in a conference situation where they need to use their
ipad for an impromptu demonstration. Or be at a party and want to connect their music playlist to someone's
sound system.
Vive la différence (la options) !
I should have been more clear. As an input device into the mixer, you usually have a 1/8" jack from a phone (or something like that) to stereo RCA jacks into the mixer. As an output device out of the mixer to headphones, you typically have a 1/4" jack.
Fair. The biggest professionals often use the typical Sony ones that everyone has. We do not do audio work in a professional setting enough to justify the much more expensive "professional" lines. The M50x is a good alternative however. It's the bang for the buck option of a flat mix (as opposed to Beats or something ridiculous that scoops the kids and boosts the lows), good response, and options for cabling (the cable detaches, making it easy to replace if damaged or use different lengths or coiled vs not). They're somewhere above consumer, but below being truly professional grade. The every day person is not buying the M50x -- they're buying Beats, or Skullcandy, or something incredibly cheap. They're a good fit for an enthusiast or someone who is just getting into the professional audio scene.
Like I said, unless it's a better DAC, there's no difference. And let's be honest, Apple's external DAC "adapter" is not any better quality than their internal one, yet people act like this is somehow a better solution.
Most pro musicians use iPads so they're the ones affected most by no headphone jack. On the other hand, most pros understand that dongles are part of their working life and to buy a few extra so they always have them wherever they are working. Real pros are adults and work through minor and major inconveniences. Real pros don't take to the Internet to whine and wax poetic about the "glorious" days of analog.
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There are 20x more pro lightning devices than there are USB C. Apple would only be punishing customers by moving to USB C on iDevices. If iPhone and its lightning port weren't such a huge success, the transition would be much easier.
You are Wrong. I travel Worldwide (On Planet Earth), constantly, and most people use WIRED Headphones.
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They definitely should be removed on the MacBook, but I never hold the bezels on my iPad when using. It’s definitely a welcome addition for me. This device is going to be pretty incredible to hold.
My god ,10 pages about wireless vs wired audio...
Comparing 150 year old matured tech vs a wirless world that is just getting started
Wireless tech was the same for some years until W1 chip and bt4 and 5
Let the wireless audio tech to get mature for another 50 years and then compare
Comparing 150 year old matured tech vs a wirless world that is just getting started
Wireless tech was the same for some years until W1 chip and bt4 and 5
Let the wireless audio tech to get mature for another 50 years and then compare
You do realize that inside airpods Apple uses the same 150year old technology (analog), right? BT pass is inserted before it and it can make the sound worse (and it does) but it can't improve it.
I never understood the constant back and forth about wired vs wireless. Obviously there are pros and cons to both. And obviously wireless is the future, but why sit here and go on and on about it. I tend not to worry about decisions Apple makes in this regard because I can’t control it. Either buy it if it’s a device you want and brings you value, or don’t.
Um, why should consumers suffer new tech that is inferior to old tech? The only thing that bluetooth brings is convenience of not having to tangle wires or having the wires catch onto something and falling out. It is still inferior to sound and mic quality of wired headphones. Companies would give the customer the option to have both (like they have been doing for a long while) if they cared about them, unfortunately they don't, they only care about profits and this push isn't in the best interest for the customer, it is in the best interest of the company and its sales of dongles and bluetooth headsets.
If you want to argue that we should let the tech mature, I say let the companies invest into research to mature the tech themselves. Customers shouldn't settle, they should demand better from these companies.
Of course you do. When you’ve got expensive good sounding headphones that you travel with because a bunch of airlines in various parts of the world do not allow Bluetooth to be used on the planes. Headphones that can be plugged into the plane itself to hear the movie, or into your iPhone or iPad when you get to your destination. So if I want to use those headphones on a Mac, I use the headphone jack or some sort of usb c adapter. On the iPad I use an adapter which is different that the iPhone adapter?
Or do I throw out my master and dynamic or Grado headphones because you’ve decided I’m behind the times and should be happy with beats or AirPods that keep falling out of my ears (I own AirPods. They don’t stay in.)?