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The word Pro at Apple now is not the same Pro that Steve Jobs was using. Pro is just a new monicker for more $$$. It’s a basic sales technique. As for the headphone jack, I have BT headphones so never really used the jacks in the last year at least. I’m all for a new iPad as I’m due for one, and I’d like to see the Jobs Parallel Universe also :)
 
these things will be $1500 and your complaining about a $160 pair of AirPods? Im not saying I have a ton of $$$ but if your going to use the best iPad why not use the best headphones that they make FOR IT with it? This kind of reminds me of the complaints about the AC+ cost. If you are buying a premium device you should be prepared for the premium accessories.

First, AirPods are not headphones. They're earbuds. They're meant to listen to music while doing a workout activity.

Just because the AirPods are the ONLY thing they make FOR IT, doesn't make it good.

If you've EVER listened to a good set of headphones, you'd never, ever had written what you wrote.
 
USB-c to Usb-a dongle connected to usb-a to lightning dongle connected to lightning to 3.5mm dongle

Radio Shack used to be a store for such stuff. Now WE are becoming walking Radio Shacks one (more) dongle at a time. ;)

And what's even funnier to me is how quick we are to try to sell each other on how it is better for them to pay for and carry more stuff. I really think Apple should go ahead kick out the battery and camera to accessories (sold separately) too while raising the price... just to see the cheerleaders spinning:
  • "well, we all buy cases anyway",
  • "it's genius actually- now anyone can get whatever size battery they want",
  • "now we can add whatever quality of camera we want",
  • "no more camera bump- genius!"
  • and so on.
Don't we all look forward to buying an empty box- where everything that used to come built in is a separate add-on? "Thinnest and lightest _______ ever" (because there's nothing left in it). ;)
 
First, AirPods are not headphones. They're earbuds. They're meant to listen to music while doing a workout activity.

If you've EVER listened to a good set of headphones, you'd never, ever had written what you wrote.
true. earbuds. my guess is the majority of people are not leisurely listening to music on these devices. Do these devices even have enough power to push "amazing" headphones to their capability?
 
Ditching the jack is fine by me. However I hope they would reveal an updated version of the Airpods to coincide with its launch. Launch the new Airpods in black and charge $29.95 extra for that color, just because. Tim I love you buddy never stop being you.

Forget to add: make the new black pods only work with this years iPad and phones.

Made my day. Thank you. ;)
 
That’s a ridiculous statement. Almost all audio Pros use DACs, not headphone jacks, even more so on a tablet.

An equal amount of MacRumors commenters (speaking for Pros) were pissed when Apple removed the Line In from the Retina MacBook Pro in 2012. Again, “Pros” don’t go DI. You’d have a preamp/DAC for audio recording.

I can see this being pretty frustrating for consumers, sure. And I’m not defending Apple removing it. I’m just boggled with how blanketed and uninformed your statement is.
Maybe I should have been clearer. I do video for a living. Part of that is audio work. I don't see how the inconvenience of losing an audio jack I use daily is outweighed by your irritation of their being a headphone jack you don't use.
It's so weird that people line up to defend Apple's boneheaded decisions.
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You realize you’ve identified that you’re incapable of discerning between fact and opinion. Congrats.

Next time find a source for this sweeping ********. People in music, entertainment, and AV industries use the aux port frequently. I witness this on a weekly basis at the event center I work at.
THANK YOU. I primarily do video, but work with audio pros, and they constantly use the headphone jack.
 
Prediction: My guess is that the A10X to A12X will be a minimum of a 50% difference in CPU speed for single & multi. That would place GB4 scores at 5800 / 14,000.

GPU will be more than an 75% diff over the A10X GPU. Placing this well over 400,000 for Antutu.

This is the future for the A13 chipset!!!!
 
More people will be mad about the lack of a headphone jack than the number of people who would have used the jack if it were included.

It’s suppose to be a pro machine right ?

Don’t blame the punters. Blame apple who still views that a pro machine like the new iMac Pro and MacBook Pro require a headphone jack, for obvious reasons.

I’m referring to these people actually expecting a product that is capable of a pro workflow . Removal of the headphone jack would indicate to me that the IPad Pro is just another iPad and the “pro” is an excuse to just charge more.

So after a long rant , a pro machine, still needs a headphone jack.
 
true. earbuds. my guess is the majority of people are not leisurely listening to music on these devices. Do these devices even have enough power to push "amazing" headphones to their capability?

The "amazing" headphones I have work on my iPhone (with adapter) and my LG G6 just fine, as long as I'm not expecting to blow my eardrums out. So I would say, yes. Higher impedance headphones will require more power. But cheap, portable headphone amps are easy to come by.
 
these things will be $1500 and your complaining about a $160 pair of AirPods? Im not saying I have a ton of $$$ but if your going to use the best iPad why not use the best headphones that they make FOR IT with it? This kind of reminds me of the complaints about the AC+ cost. If you are buying a premium device you should be prepared for the premium accessories.

As far as sound quality is concerned, AirPods are pretty ******. They are decent earbuds but there are way better headphones. What if I want to use iPad with "my" $4K Audeze LCD-4z headphones?
 
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Those defending removing a port should explain what is gained by doing so. The iPad has always had lots of empty space inside of it. That isn't changing this year - it is the reality of batteries having weight (so that filling the device to capacity with battery is unwise) and boards being tiny. There is room for it, so what is gained by removing it?
 
display that curves with corners of the device

I was going to agree with you, and it does look pretty. But I'm actually waiting to buy one of these new Pros (coming from a Gen 1 mini) primarily to edit photos. Which have proper, sharp corners. I'm not quite sure yet how this will look....same with video? Hmm...

And yes, I do have an iPhone X with similar round corners, but the screen ratio is completely different.

and that flat edge reminiscent of the iPhone 4/5.

Absolutely no fan of that prospect. It's not gonna be pleasant to the hand when holding for extended periods of times. Both my iPhone 4 and 5S never were, and this thing is bigger with a completely different lever/gravitational pull.
 
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curious how the smaller model compares to a latest ipad mini in total size and weight. If it isn't too much bigger or heavier it might find me upgrading, especially if it has usb-c port/charging.
 
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