Lol - I’m gonna take another pic as soon as all my stuff finishes transferring. I’m afraid to move my phones. ;-p
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Okay that’s from directly over them. Subaru magazine background.
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iPhone 11 Pro UPDATE AGAIN 7/21 (hopefully the last)! For those interested in my ongoing phone saga
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Lol - I’m gonna take another pic as soon as all my stuff finishes transferring. I’m afraid to move my phones. ;-p
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Okay that’s from directly over them. Subaru magazine background.
I know. It really is. As weird as it was to go to a smaller phone, it’s gonna be so weird going back to a big one.
Thanks again! Whilst comparing my note 9 I'm happy that the height of the 11 will be shorter than what I have which is what I will want but I'm fearful of that width. That does look wide by comparison to the SE. I do wonder if I'm overthinking it now lol
It worries me I could be looking to get the 11 and find it's just as unwieldly to hold and do the thumb reach. Of course a case as well will add to the width as well. Hm I think it's something I'm going to have to hold and pocket to truly know what it will be like..
Lol I KNOW I’m not getting that little 12 - I don’t think my eyes could take it.
I hear you. I’ve gotten used to my Max’s screen size, still a bit large to handle if I’m honest. I’ve adapted for the most part, but I still think about it. In the end I got it because it had a big battery, better stereo, and it was just a few bucks more than the smaller version. It’s my first big phone outside of the 7 heheh. If I could do it again, I may have went with the smaller version. This battery easily lasts me a day. And if I used it like a normal person it would probably last 2 days.
Well I wish the OLED didn’t bother me because I love the size of that 11 pro, but I used + sized phones for several years, then the XR then the 11, so even though I wanted to go smaller, it’s not like I didn’t know what I was getting into going back to the 11. I’ll miss some things about having the small phone, but I was missing some of the features from my 11 also.
I just can’t believe I’ve gone through so much BS over a dang phone. It really is stupid, and honestly, if I wasn’t sitting home most of the da** time with too much of nothing to do, I’m sure none of this would’ve ever happened.
Thanks Corona!
Idle minds are the devil’s playgrounds. lol I feel your pain there. Even I succumbed to the “pressure” and switched back to the 11. OLED is noticeably better to me, but I like the bigger screen and better battery life. If PWM isn’t an issue this year you may like the 12 Pro. With X/XS/11Pro-like bezels it should fit right in between the 11Pro and 11 size wise.
You’re right. I have done some musical iPads, selling off tech, buying new stuff. It’s been nuts.
Yeah I’m curious to see about the changes to OLED, if there are any, although I’m sure I’ll wait a while since I just bought this 11.
It will sure be nice to get back in an Apple Store and be able to get your hands on stuff again.
You can always wait to test out the OLED phones in the future, you know maybe it could be certain OLEDs that make you feel different, maybe a smoother OLED display could make you feel better coming from (120hz in the future)
I know sometimes bright phones impact my eyes so I choose to lower it down it’s all in the settings sometimes haha 😊
BTW save the iPhone 11 I’m rooting for you! Lol
I know sometimes bright phones impact my eyes so I choose to lower it down it’s all in the settings sometimes haha 😊
BTW save the iPhone 11 I’m rooting for you! Lol
I keep my brightness pretty low most of the time, and tried all the recommended settings for making the OLED tolerable, and I still seemed to have the headaches. I am definitely hoping they’ll do something with the OLED going forward, so I can at least buy OLED in the future. I’m just thankful I still had a couple options, and that I can have this 11 for a few years if needed til the kinks are all out with OLED.
I have no idea. Some people have said they’ve had no trouble with certain OLED phones, but iPhones have caused them to have issues. I cannot speak to that because I’ve never tried other smart phones. I just know the OLED seems to cause me to have headaches. Whether I would adapt to it or not remains to be seen - I’ve not kept an OLED phone around more than a few days at this point. I’m just gonna see what the feedback is after 12 pros are released to see if there are changes/improvements.
The vast majority of people do not have problems with Apple oled screens, but it does some to affect a small minority. Now is that because of the Apple screen which is a Samsung, or is there an underlying problem somewhere else? I personally haven’t met anyone who has this issue nor have I investigated deeper.
@ssledoux if its any help and I do end up with the 5.4 I'll happily post some pics for you. Maybe side by side with an iPhone 8 to see how it looks.
I'll see what we get in terms of specs first otherwise I'll end up with an 11 like you!
Well thanks! I’m sure there will be plenty of pics out there after the release. I’m anxious to see what they’ll have to offer, and how they’ll be, even though it’ll likely be a good while before I get anything.
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There’s a pretty big thread about it on this forum. I do think it’s more than a few people, but yeah definitely the majority are fine. I just know I have read some on these forums say they had issue with Apple’s OLED when they had NOT had issues with others. Of course, I would look into it for myself if I were wanting to buy, and/or try it for myself. It certainly may not be an issue at all for most.
I actually never read about it - got the XS Max and was curious why it was making me have headaches to look at it. That’s how I came across the thread about the PWM and headaches with the OLEDs. That’s just to say it’s not something that was pre-planted in my head making me imagine it when it wasn’t really an issue for me.
I experienced issues with the X right when it came out, and nobody was talking about PWM yet, so it freaked me out because I was thinking “it’s like this phone is bothering me, that can’t be.”
When I learned about PWM and saw it for myself recording on slo-mo, it made sense to me. Even watching the tv show The Big Bang Theory, I look away during the opening because it flicks so fast—and that’s visible to the naked eye. Different people are sensitive to different things: if we can learn what those things are AND we can actually avoid them, we are fortunate.
That’s what I tell myself.
When I learned about PWM and saw it for myself recording on slo-mo, it made sense to me. Even watching the tv show The Big Bang Theory, I look away during the opening because it flicks so fast—and that’s visible to the naked eye. Different people are sensitive to different things: if we can learn what those things are AND we can actually avoid them, we are fortunate.
That’s what I tell myself.
@ssledoux if its any help and I do end up with the 5.4 I'll happily post some pics for you. Maybe side by side with an iPhone 8 to see how it looks.
I'll see what we get in terms of specs first otherwise I'll end up with an 11 like you!
I’ve said I have had the 11 Pro for 3 months. My favorite case is the Magpul Bump case. An 11 Pro in that case is significantly larger than an iPhone 8 in the same case. If I wanted to go naked the 11 Pro would be same size vs an iPhone 8 in the Magpul Bump case. They don’t make cell phone pockets in cargo pants to fit a case 11 Pro.
Do you have the regular pro, or the max? Just asking because the regular pro wasn’t anywhere close to the size of my daughter’s 8+.
@ssledoux
This was an interesting thread to read through. I’ve got an 11 Pro that’s worked great for me. My only issue is that in the aftermath of an illness that might have been Covid, I have been even more clumsy than I already was from some pre existing neurological issue I will eventually need diagnosed. Whatever it is, I’m more prone to dropping things and tripping and needed my Caudabe to save my 11Pro a few too many times than was comfortable.
11 Pro was pricey to get Apple Care+ on, so we didn’t. Then it’s ridiculously expensive to repair. I’m not always going to be this wobbly, at least I hope not. Between the clumsiness and we all needing masks to run errands, my family thought an SE would be a nice Mother’s Day gift. And it’s great. It is light and easy to handle. I love it.
I like the pictures it takes but I appreciate zoom and wide angle lenses on my 11 Pro. I really don’t know how I’d pick between them if I had to. I can completely empathize with your dilemma.
I had seriously bad migraine reactions to previous Apple OLEDs. I’m good on the 11Pro. I actually find it a little easier on the eyes than LCD because the LCD backlight can at times feel harsh. But pwm is hard on the brain if the flicker rate or pattern conflicts with the senses.
I found a small mention once somewhere and unfortunately lost the link, but I think the reason IPhone pwm causes issues when Samsung phones often don’t, despite the displays of both being made by Samsung, is due to Apple imposing a special exclusive flicker pattern at the sub pixel level. I forgot why they do this. It may be to stave off burn in and prolong the life of the display. But the point is that they do not just take the panels without imposing their own custom standards.
I do think they tweaked something in the 11 Pro series, otherwise I could not use the 11 Pro with no issues (that I’m aware of). I mean there’s a possibility my clumsiness is related somehow, but that’s a real stretch. Even I’m not willing to go there.
I’m able to switch between the two phones with ease. I also use a Samsung S20 because I’m a phone nut and I don’t want to be captive to one platform.
But in the future, I would advise if you’re trying to evaluate if a new OLED display is affecting you, go cold turkey and use the new phone exclusively during the evaluation period. Even I can feel my eyes and brain making an adjustment when I switch back and forth. So, I try to stick to the same display for a whole day. I’m currently on my 11 Pro because the SE is charging.
In your case, using an LCD iPad as often as you do, it probably is helpful you’re using a similar display on your phone.
I think I’m going to sit out the iPhone 12’s. The 11 Pro is almost perfect. I’d genuinely enjoy having it 2 years. Especially with an SE around when I want to go light.
I hope you’re enjoying your iPhone 11.
This was an interesting thread to read through. I’ve got an 11 Pro that’s worked great for me. My only issue is that in the aftermath of an illness that might have been Covid, I have been even more clumsy than I already was from some pre existing neurological issue I will eventually need diagnosed. Whatever it is, I’m more prone to dropping things and tripping and needed my Caudabe to save my 11Pro a few too many times than was comfortable.
11 Pro was pricey to get Apple Care+ on, so we didn’t. Then it’s ridiculously expensive to repair. I’m not always going to be this wobbly, at least I hope not. Between the clumsiness and we all needing masks to run errands, my family thought an SE would be a nice Mother’s Day gift. And it’s great. It is light and easy to handle. I love it.
I like the pictures it takes but I appreciate zoom and wide angle lenses on my 11 Pro. I really don’t know how I’d pick between them if I had to. I can completely empathize with your dilemma.
I had seriously bad migraine reactions to previous Apple OLEDs. I’m good on the 11Pro. I actually find it a little easier on the eyes than LCD because the LCD backlight can at times feel harsh. But pwm is hard on the brain if the flicker rate or pattern conflicts with the senses.
I found a small mention once somewhere and unfortunately lost the link, but I think the reason IPhone pwm causes issues when Samsung phones often don’t, despite the displays of both being made by Samsung, is due to Apple imposing a special exclusive flicker pattern at the sub pixel level. I forgot why they do this. It may be to stave off burn in and prolong the life of the display. But the point is that they do not just take the panels without imposing their own custom standards.
I do think they tweaked something in the 11 Pro series, otherwise I could not use the 11 Pro with no issues (that I’m aware of). I mean there’s a possibility my clumsiness is related somehow, but that’s a real stretch. Even I’m not willing to go there.
I’m able to switch between the two phones with ease. I also use a Samsung S20 because I’m a phone nut and I don’t want to be captive to one platform.
But in the future, I would advise if you’re trying to evaluate if a new OLED display is affecting you, go cold turkey and use the new phone exclusively during the evaluation period. Even I can feel my eyes and brain making an adjustment when I switch back and forth. So, I try to stick to the same display for a whole day. I’m currently on my 11 Pro because the SE is charging.
In your case, using an LCD iPad as often as you do, it probably is helpful you’re using a similar display on your phone.
I think I’m going to sit out the iPhone 12’s. The 11 Pro is almost perfect. I’d genuinely enjoy having it 2 years. Especially with an SE around when I want to go light.
I hope you’re enjoying your iPhone 11.
You meant "not as bulky" as the 11 surely? As there are only six grams of difference in weight.
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Only? Six grams is Definitely noticeable. When you’re used to using the same device for an extended amount of time and migrate to a iPhone model that might be considerably heavier, I can tell you right now you will notice a difference when it comes to a weight differential, even if it is 6g heavier.
Considering she said the 11 pro weights a little more than SE2 it gave the impression that there is not that much difference in weight between the two but there is with the 11, and six grams is a small difference compared to the 40 grams between the SE and the 11 pro.