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Prediction

The New MacBook Air will have the multitouch HD screen that folks thought was for the iPad 3, and that Lion will support running iOS Apps on this machine. Oh, and maybe G3.
 
I kind of want to get a little 11" MacBook Air for work so I don't have to use the lame HP machine that they gave me... but I shouldn't spend any more money after buying a 27" display.
 
I am a manager in a 100+ corporation...My guess is that you are not. But hey, keep on babbling.

I agree with your points if the hardware was indeed only ready 2 weeks before the software. My guess based on rumors is that it was ready months before, in which case I disagree that it makes sense to wait.

I disagree. Let's put all of this in perspective. Apple caters to middle to upper class Americans. That's their market. They sell premium products. The way they have their laptops set up, you are getting a machine that serves a specific purpose, although they can all do a good number of things. If you read around on the forum, you'll see people who have more than 1 Apple product.

They'll have an Imac and an iPad, an iMac and a MacBook Pro/Air, or a MacBook pro and an Air/ipad; there are many combinations. Apple releases each product with a particular trait that makes it attractive.

The Air is small, the Pro is the full package, the iMac has an amazing screen. That's just concerning the build. With that said, people also always talk about the experience with getting Apple products.

It just works. That's what everyone says. It's easy, it's simple, it's fast, it is different. There's no denying this. Ask anyone here, that's what they'll say.

Waiting a few extra weeks to push their new OS with the most publicized and their new "staple" Laptop? That makes perfect sense. They're pushing the new MBA; hard. Why release it early when they can release it the same day and make a bigger story about it.

They can't really come out and say "hey look, refreshed airs! SNB processor, more ram, AND more hdd space!" They don't put emphasis on specs. That's not how they operate. They put emphasis on experience.

"Hey look, NEW operating system with all of these great features AND it's coming with a brand new, completely redesigned macbook air; a match made in heaven. We took the best of the ipad and macbook and combined them, AND we took the best of the iPad and computing (in terms of experienced) and combined them. "

That's generally how they are marketing Lion, if you watched the Keynote anyway.

THIS makes perfect sense.
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If this is true and the price is the same, I am not surprised to see the end of Macbook Pro line. The benefit of ssd is greater than the clock speed of cpu for average users.

Are you serious?

1: Lower processing power.
2: Not as durable, hefty (people will think it's flimsier and easier to break)
3: No CD drive (very important for college students and people who actually like using CDs, not to mention businesses and whatnot.
4: Battery life on the 11 inch isn't as long (it's long, but having an 8 hour battery is very, very nice).
5: No Firewire port
6: Limited space and you can't upgrade the internals yourself (RAM) and SSDs are expensive.

The MBA is a great product and you're right about it being very appealing to the average consumer, however I think many will still go for the Macbook as they will see it as a more complete device (why would I need a SSD? Where's the CD drive?)

That's what people are going to say when they see it, you have to think like a mom or a kid who doesn't research this stuff, someone who walks in wanting a new Mac.

People will buy it but they'll also "need" to buy a Superdrive as well (there are alternatives but who's going to think about this when they don't know the differences and benefits of a SSD vs HDD?)
 
Still no blu ray drive? wtf ????????


Thats it im quitting apple altogether im going to microsoft no blu ray drive is just stoopid! omg...
 
4GB ram seems like a no-brainer, but 128GB SSD? I think I'd like the option of 64GB and pay $100 less. 64GB is fine for operating system + iTunes music files + iPhoto collection + my Dropbox files. 128GB -- what do I get really? I can't even begin to store my video files on that...
 
hopefully they don't try to charge $200-$400 for the 8GB RAM upgrade, those modules are $65 on the aftermarket but because they're soldered on we have to order from Apple :\
 
4GB ram seems like a no-brainer, but 128GB SSD? I think I'd like the option of 64GB and pay $100 less. 64GB is fine for operating system + iTunes music files + iPhoto collection + my Dropbox files. 128GB -- what do I get really? I can't even begin to store my video files on that...

Will you be complaining if it's the same price?
 
4GB ram seems like a no-brainer, but 128GB SSD? I think I'd like the option of 64GB and pay $100 less. 64GB is fine for operating system + iTunes music files + iPhoto collection + my Dropbox files. 128GB -- what do I get really? I can't even begin to store my video files on that...

My iTunes and iPhoto are 60GB alone. And I don't even have that much music, and no videos.
 
Apple is the only company I know of that has managers that are stupid enough to postpone the release of several major (backward compatible) hardware products in order to wait for a software update that is free in any event.

The only reason I can think of for why they might be doing this (apart from unbelievable stupidity) is that the new Air, Mac Pro, and Mini have hardware components that only work with Lion.

They actually care about their users enough to not want them to have it come with one OS and have to upgrade to another one. They ARE the only company like that, you are right.
 
Are you serious?

1: Lower processing power.
2: Not as durable, hefty (people will think it's flimsier and easier to break)
3: No CD drive (very important for college students and people who actually like using CDs, not to mention businesses and whatnot.
4: Battery life on the 11 inch isn't as long (it's long, but having an 8 hour battery is very, very nice).
5: No Firewire port
6: Limited space and you can't upgrade the internals yourself (RAM) and SSDs are expensive.

The MBA is a great product and you're right about it being very appealing to the average consumer, however I think many will still go for the Macbook as they will see it as a more complete device (why would I need a SSD? Where's the CD drive?)

That's what people are going to say when they see it, you have to think like a mom or a kid who doesn't research this stuff, someone who walks in wanting a new Mac.

People will buy it but they'll also "need" to buy a Superdrive as well (there are alternatives but who's going to think about this when they don't know the differences and benefits of a SSD vs HDD?)
Careful, knowing how to use a Torx driver is considered dangerous knowledge to Apple. I have given up on Apple's notebooks outside of iTunes and web browsing. (Oh and running OS X directly on the hardware instead of say a virtual machine.)

Upgrading the hard drive and RAM felt nice 4 years ago. Now you just want the cheapest thing that can run OS X without a too much effort. SSD capacity is just crippling and I have had 4 GB of RAM since 2007. What year are we in now? RAM is cheap and plentiful. Hell, I can double my amount for not even close to double the price.

The ~$999 price point is a train wreck of too many models right now. Enough space for that massive Thunderbolt controller but not for a dedicated GPU instead? Great!

Now where can I find an experience benchmark in seconds that relates to my software performance on hardware.
 
The benefits would be, more ports, Superdrive, more HD space, and better price/performance.

But I agree, the MBP is looking weak now in comparison. They need to at least match the res of the 13" MBA in the next rev.

I'm hoping Apple releases a 15" Macbook Air. I mean, what's stopping them? A 15" Macbook Air would be the quintessential portable machine.
 
bummer

Great, if everything they say comes true, it will render my 3 month old 13" mbp obsolete. I couldnt care less about the DVD drive and the fw 800 port and the screen is not only glossier (which I hate) but lower rez compared to the MBA!
To add insult to injury, they will prolly also release a retina display version of the ipad before the end of the year and at the same price point as the current model, which will only make me feels worse.
 
I think they will make the MacBook Airs as appetible as possible (backlit, more storage) and see how does the Pro fare, so they can figure out the best way to update their lineup next year.
 
I am a manager in a 100+ corporation...My guess is that you are not. But hey, keep on babbling.

Goodness, a manager? Wow. All hail the manager!

Nobody who's got any sort of authority signs into message boards and says "I'm a manager, you're not" ... It's just not how leaders work. Someone who is a leader doesn't need to tell people they're a leader, others naturally follow.

But hey, glad they finally promoted you to Office Manager, I'm out of paperclips, can you call Staples and get them to deliver them right away? Thanks, oh, and coffee is getting cold, why haven't you made more?
 
Still no blu ray drive? wtf ????????


Thats it im quitting apple altogether im going to microsoft no blu ray drive is just stoopid! omg...

Wow, if you still don't get why Apple hasn't included blu-ray you really are in a shell.

http://www.myce.com/news/Apple-shies-away-from-Blu-ray-15133/

That article is fairly to the point but just in case you are too lazy to read it (since you obviously haven't done a simple google search to find out why) I will sum it up for you.

It has to do with licensing. Apple didn't feel like the licensing was fair at least too expensive for their liking which they would have had to pass onto the consumer. When blu ray reaches a certain market share it is possible Apple could adopt and it would feasible to pass onto the consumer. However, I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
I don't believe Apple markets the MBAs as a primary computer. At least I could never see using it as one. Sure, it can be used as such, but it is not meant to store a video library, or spend hours converting video for editing. If you want a portable primary computer, go with a MBP, or maybe even a MB (when they finally release the new specs).

I'm waiting for the new MBA myself, but to use when traveling and to bring back/forth to work, or sitting outside. I'd use my iMac for any real heavy lifting.
 
Sweet, that means I should be able to walk into a store and get a 256GB model on launch day instead of waiting for a BTO :)

I literally cannot handle the waiting.
 
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