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Updated Skylake 27" iMac this fall?
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I would be quite happy with the 4.0 Haswell, but it would be nice to wait just a tiny bit and get thunderbolt 3 and an updated GPU with that same CPU power. Especially if I'm going to keep the iMac for 5 years like I have this 2010 MBP
Actually they filed a long time ago, I remember reading about it more than a month ago, or am I wrong?
EDIT: Just checked, the news of filing for new mouse and keyboard came around mid-August
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My hopes have crashed now, I checked the Macbooks, all of them are also with deliveries Oct 14, and they've just been updated recently
I just checked in my local Apple Online store - the 21" models are all on stock and upgrading RAM, SSD, etc. prolongs the delivery to 2-4 working days, so… I don't think an update is around the corner, sadly. And I guess they want to concentrate on the iPhone 6s launch right now.
Maybe end of October, the Skylake i7-6700K should be available in higher quantities
Maybe end of October, the Skylake i7-6700K should be available in higher quantities
I'm fine with October/November. Just bought the new MacBook to hold me over.
But I do NOT want to wait until spring for a refresh!!
I like you're idea, buy a MacBook to hold you over! Hmmm, maybe I'll pick up an Air while I wait! I deserve it!
Pretty much in the same boat! I can't believe if Apple doesn't update any of the iMacs in Q4 2015.
As someone waiting to jump on the top tier 5k, assuming this update will be Broadwell is there much point in waiting? I'm all for future-proofing as I tend to hang onto my iMacs for 5-7 years but I'll be bumping processor and GPU anyway and the wait is starting to kill me...
There's no point in waiting if you won't be kicking yourself if they release a new one right after you get yours. ;-)
Given the time delay on shipping, do you guys think it's worth going ahead and ordering? Has Apple ever dropped a hardware refresh in November? My thought is it's too close to the holidays, and most people will have already sussed out what they're putting under the tree by November; hence the need for an earlier update.
If an announcement goes out for an event, I suppose I can just cancel it or even return it if it comes much later... not my ideal situation (actually, I don't like it at all, but I'm Mac-less right now), so come on Apple! Update the things!
If an announcement goes out for an event, I suppose I can just cancel it or even return it if it comes much later... not my ideal situation (actually, I don't like it at all, but I'm Mac-less right now), so come on Apple! Update the things!
Just a note, the broadwell rumors pertain to the 21" iMac. This is mostly likely because Apple wants to drop the discrete GPU for this model and use the Iris graphics, which is only available in broadwell for the time being. Its likely that Intel's Iris is an upgrade to the existing GPUs in the existing 21" iMac.
Apple will stick with a discrete GPU in the 27" iMac which means that Skylake parts will be fine. The catch is that currently Skylake parts seem to have very limited availability.
Apple will stick with a discrete GPU in the 27" iMac which means that Skylake parts will be fine. The catch is that currently Skylake parts seem to have very limited availability.
I'm in the same boat. I want to buy a new 27" RiMAC and hang on to it for a while. While I don't think any upcoming updates will make a huge difference for me as a non-power user, I'm still apprehensive about dropping money on something if Apple is going to release an update in the next 30 days.
Perhaps I'll play the waiting game until late October.
Do some research on the current GPU, especially the upgraded one (M295x). It's a fireball. Literally. That's why I'm waiting.
The code in El Capitain refers to a M395x, which is just a rebranded version of the M295X. SO unfortunately that is likely to stay the same. I think Broadwell in the 21.5 is a good call, and because of the discrete CPUs in the higher end, and no resonable Skylake part to drop into the 27", much will stay the same if there is an upgrade coming.
Unfortunately there isn't a whole lot of available GPUs that could replace it and get better performance with less heat. There are some possibilities that produce similar heat and get better performance, GPUs like the Nvidia 970m and 980m. The AMD m395x would likely be almost identical to the current m295x. Apple could go with something like the AMD R9 Nano or the rumored mobile version of the Nvidia GTX 980, but these produce more heat than the m295x (unless their clock frequencies are reduced).
Apple won't put broadwell in the 27" iMac. The only suitable broadwell CPUs include the Iris graphics and Apple won't want to pay the premium Intel will charge if they are just going to use discrete GPUs. The only question is whether there is enough supply of skylake parts for Apple to release something.
Skylake would require a significant investment without enough of a gain IMHO since the chip architecture is also new. So until they do a total redesign, perhaps late next year, we won't see Skylake in an iMac. Intel really has focused on power consumption and all in one cpu/GPU solutions to the detriment of raw CPU power. Broadwell and Skylake really speak to those two market segments, not something like the iMac which uses a dedicated desktop chip.
I'm still crossing my fingers for an October update but I think I'm going to really struggle pulling the trigger if its not Skylake in the 27". Regardless, ending the wait to drop 3.5k USD on a 1 year old computer just seems ridiculous to me at this point.
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Most of you guys are lucky, because you already own a machine with OS X. I am a Windows user planning to switch to an iMac, because now that UHD is really getting serious and 100% zoom on a 36 MP photo leaves a ridiculously small section of the photo on my 1920x1200px screen, I figured that I want this gorgeous RiMac screen, especially after I switched to an iPhone and iPad a year ago and I really love the simplicity of iOS, so I'm hoping to get the same with OS X.
That being said I also don't want to buy the current model only to see the successor being released a couple of weeks later. Plus Skylake would be really nice since it's 2 generations further than Haswell and I am planning on using the iMac for 4-5 years, so the latest tech would be the best investment.
That being said I also don't want to buy the current model only to see the successor being released a couple of weeks later. Plus Skylake would be really nice since it's 2 generations further than Haswell and I am planning on using the iMac for 4-5 years, so the latest tech would be the best investment.
I am not sure why moving to skylake will require a "total redesign." Yes, they must update the logic board to the new Intel platform, but this kind of thing happens every couple of years and is likely only a modest engineering effort. Apple will probably move away from the 88 W Core i7 4790K processor and to the new 65 W Core i7 6700 with either similar or better performance while making the machine cooler and quieter. This is exactly the kind of trade off that Apple loves making. While I agree that the desktop skylake performance is nothing earth shattering, the performance/watt ratio has seen some increase.
Apple will have to move to the new Intel Z170/H170 platform eventually, as this and future generations will use it. The platform itself may be enough of a draw to move to it sooner rather than later. It has additional PCIe bandwidth available which should enable improved SSD performance and allow for Thunderbolt 3, which I expect ends up in the next iMac and across most of the mac lineup.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see the 27" iMac updated this year, if only because Apple can't get enough skylake chips and thunderbolt 3 controllers.
Here's the issue with that part: It benchmarks less than the 4.0 Haswell and it is a 3.4GHz part -- so crap marketing and quite honestly who wants a lower performing part just to get ride a bit of heat? . http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-6700+@+3.40GHz The 6700K has the same clock speed as the current version 4.0 (and reportedly about a 10% performance gain) but an increased wattage is required.