I agree with all of this, except that the retina iMac DOES use desktop-class CPUs, so Skylake SHOULD be possible. I will be severely disappointed if there's no 27" update, and/or no Skylake in it. The CPUs ARE available. Just the mobile ones that aren't
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Updated Skylake 27" iMac this fall?
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I agree with all of this, except that the retina iMac DOES use desktop-class CPUs, so Skylake SHOULD be possible. I will be severely disappointed if there's no 27" update, and/or no Skylake in it. The CPUs ARE available. Just the mobile ones that aren't
As far as I understand, this is correct. The advantage from Haswell to Broadwell is a process shrinking from 22nm to 14nm - technical difficulties with this shrinking are responsible for the delay until Broadwell could be launched a couple of months before the Skylake launch. The main benefit of Broadwell vs. the current Haswell cpus is that less power is needed to achieve the same performance. Broadwell seems to be 5 - 10% faster in benchmarks, but if this will translate into a real-world advantage is questionable. To go from Haswell to Broadwell is imho not advisable as Skylake is around (except mobile CPUs). It would be a shame if Apple would go this route (except maybe for the low-performance entry-level iMac).
I ordered i5/M290X/3TB Fusion Drive on 9/30 (Malaysia).
Delivery date was 10/12 - 10/15 then slipped to 10/20 - 10/21 (informed by email on 10/6).
Now, new delivery date 10/16-10/20.
If there is a refresh (maybe a faster graphics card?), will i get it ? or should I cancel the existing order and place a new one?
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I have no former experience of such a situation. I think it is not clear what will happen, it depends on many factors.... If there are still current iMac models around when your order is at the first place in the queue, you'll probably get a current, meaning 'old' one. I guess if you want to be sure, cancel your order and wait. Just keep in mind that the 9to5 report is still a RUMOUR, e.g. it could be true, or not…
Again, the chances of a new version of the 27" is even smaller than the 21"… but who knows?
One thing they will do is adjust the price if something newer comes along and they drop the price of the older model.
Malaysia you say, it will take longer. Was last week in Malaysia and wanted to pick up the new iPad mini 4, saves me EUR 100 then buying in Europe. But it still needs to get regulatory approval, which takes another month. Same will happen with a new iMac, it will probably won't be out due to pending approval...
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You will get what you have ordered. If there is an update u can return it and buy new one
That doesn't make sense. If someone orders a BTO today, why would they have the components on the assembly line of the current one if they are actually releasing an updated iMac in a week or two?
The BTO would go into the queue of ones to be built but with just the comparable BTO iMac.
I went ahead and cancelled my order. Doesn't seem to be much harm in that since my date was pushed out 2+ weeks anyway. Fingers crossed for some good news.
I plan to do that....
but most likely there will be price hike (in Malaysia) after the announcement next week ...(thanks for the currency exhange rate).... just like the ipad/iphone after the event in September http://www.soyacincau.com/2015/09/10/the-iphone-and-ipad-gets-another-price-hike-in-malaysia/
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They are bound by there own terms and conditions plus local governing laws to deliver what was ordered unless consent is giving to modify the order. And obviously totally cancel the order if absolutely required.
There is a long transitional overlap period when a new iMac comes out. Like the 27" non retina had. Currently there is no 775 or 780 option, there isn't even a core i7 option at all. Current iMac orders will be handled like they have been in the past, if you can order it they can build it. They will remove BTO options as they deem necessary. And if something unforeseen happens and they cannot build you order they contact you, only then will someone maybe get lucky and get a free upgrade.
Keep in mind what you and I perceive as "better" doesn't hold true for everyone. Some people for various reasons may specifically want what they order, modifications to that is unacceptable to them.
Say for example, you order a 8gb RAM model with the intentions of upgrading it yourself to 32gb for your usage requirements. However Apple changes your order and you find out the new iMacs don't have user accessible RAM (hypothetically speaking). So you are permanently stuck with 8gb. Would you be ok with that?
If Apple decides to upgrade iMac this Fall, I hope they will include this feature which is incorporated into the new iPad Pro: speaker enclosure directly machined into the casing
There is a lot of space left on the 27" iMac. They can certainly do this to improve the tinny sound of internal speakers and they could even inspire manufacturers of larger display like Samsung or Panasonic to do the same for their LCD models. But too bad they could not do this on Macbook Pro. Sometimes you just want to blast your music away without earphones
There is a lot of space left on the 27" iMac. They can certainly do this to improve the tinny sound of internal speakers and they could even inspire manufacturers of larger display like Samsung or Panasonic to do the same for their LCD models. But too bad they could not do this on Macbook Pro. Sometimes you just want to blast your music away without earphones
That doesn't hold true for refurbs. There have been plenty of examples of people receiving an upgraded version of an iMac and MacBook.
I thought someone had received a 5k version when we were at the end of the end of the availability of the 780 version that they just sent him the equivalent 5k version at the same cost.
Non accessible ram is a bad example since that would imply a design change and there would be an event for such a physical change to the computer and Apple would announce a preorder date and when shipping.
But everyone here is not thinking the Apple mindset. It's not about bringing in something that is a huge jump forwards. It's all about small constant steps so there is always something new, but never giving away the farm. They have done it time and time again.
hey could make the iPhone have 32gb of storage for pennies more, but they stick with 16 so it forces you to pay that $100 more for the 64. They could have put 2gb of ram into the ipad air when it was released, or the touch sensor, but then that would have dug into the ipad air2. They always have to think ahead to what will keep people wanting more. If they give you too much now, then you won't have the desire to bump up to the next release, and they want a constant flow of customers buying.
Think those with the 2012 iMac's, those who weren't tempted by the RiMac and said i'll just wait for the next update, will be itching for something new, so even a small bump is better than nothing, and will desire move them to spend rather than wait another 9-12 months? Those that do jump will then be primed for the next iteration in 3 years.
hey could make the iPhone have 32gb of storage for pennies more, but they stick with 16 so it forces you to pay that $100 more for the 64. They could have put 2gb of ram into the ipad air when it was released, or the touch sensor, but then that would have dug into the ipad air2. They always have to think ahead to what will keep people wanting more. If they give you too much now, then you won't have the desire to bump up to the next release, and they want a constant flow of customers buying.
Think those with the 2012 iMac's, those who weren't tempted by the RiMac and said i'll just wait for the next update, will be itching for something new, so even a small bump is better than nothing, and will desire move them to spend rather than wait another 9-12 months? Those that do jump will then be primed for the next iteration in 3 years.
Yes, but sometimes when you release a product that's way below expectations, it just won't sell well. Mac Mini from last year is probably a good example of that.
But we do not talk about 1GB ram or 2GB of ram. All manufacturers deliver from now on their now laptop and desktop PC's with skylake processors.
In case Apple would not use Skylake this would be like Audi would use older engines than VW, Skoda or Seat......to be honest i would be dissapointed.
In case Apple would not use Skylake this would be like Audi would use older engines than VW, Skoda or Seat......to be honest i would be dissapointed.
There isn't much to show if the design is the same. Plus, leaks of future Macs are not frequent. The don't interest nearly as many people as iPhone leaks do.Strangely there have been no leaked photos whatsoever of the 4K iMac, even now, 5 days before unveiling.
Does that mean it isn't produced yet? That gives me hope that it just might be with Skylake
Further evidence that Skylake is out in PC world: From the ArsTechnica homepage:
All computers are available to order today.
It could be, though, that the Apple Engineering Team had to forfeit the Skylake update, as they were busy designing new shiny Mickey Mouse watch bands… ;-(
All computers are available to order today.
It could be, though, that the Apple Engineering Team had to forfeit the Skylake update, as they were busy designing new shiny Mickey Mouse watch bands… ;-(
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Well I've made up my mind. No buying 1 year old tech for me!
http://9to5mac.com/2015/10/08/new-apple-magic-keyboard-trackpad-2-mouse/
It's happening!! It has to be happening!!
It's happening!! It has to be happening!!