Apple is a consumer product company. Not a computer company that makes hi-perf computers for geeks who appreciate such stuff. That's the reason "Computer" was dropped from the name.
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Updated Skylake 27" iMac this fall?
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Apple tends to be focused on use case rather than pushing tech. The numbers aren't always impressive, but the experience of using the product is.
Just canceled my order, I forgot to use the educational rebate. I'll try to get the highest model with 3.9ghz, m395, 2tb fusion and split the drive to keep the 128gb as my main drive. We'll see tomorrow in-store. Anyone know if retail currently have the new iMac (mine didn't)?
This is very apparent in the mobile space. The newest iPhones are always about 1-2 years behind when looking at the hardware specifications. However, in real world benchmarking and tests the iPhone always smokes the competition even though on paper, the top Android phones always look better.
Interesting, thanks for the link! Everything I've read via Google seemed to suggest that DDR4 was required for 64GB with Skylake. If it turns out OWC is right (they have a very good reputation, but may not have their hands on a test machine just yet), I think this becomes a buy for me.
Normally I hang on to computers for at least 4-5 years, so the ability to upgrade to 64GB, even a few years down the line when RAM is cheaper, greatly increases its longevity. The only reason I'm even thinking of replacing my 2012 Mac mini right now is the cash back that can be had with Discover - whether 10% in store with Apple Pay or 5% online for BTO plus ~10% educational discount. Either one doubles cash back as it's in my first year with the card, so pretty great deal.
(I'm assuming I can't order BTO in store and pay with Apple Pay - which would be the ideal scenario...)
The reason I'm leaving Apple and my late-2009 27" iMac and going with a Windows 10 HP with spec that far surpass any Mac at 2/3 the price.
Not sure on the Apple Pay question. In the past I have ordered products BTO in store. They just have you use a floor model to order exactly how you would at home. It would still be worth a trip to your local Apple store to verify.
Ha ha! I'm going the opposite way from Apple to an HP machine with Windows 10. Today's iMac updates made up my mind.
So just what kind of 27" 5k Retina display do you have at 2/3 the price of a 27" iMac?
Sorry but you just don't "get it"
I'm with you: Google+ Hacintosh community: https://plus.google.com/communities/107196807099875876014
I just had a peek at their offering (I normally build my own machine), it's quite interesting. For 2200$. You get :
- Windows 10 Home 64-bit OS
- 6th Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K processor quad-core [4.0GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
- 32GB DDR4-2133 DIMM (4x8GB) RAM
- 512GB SATA 2.5 Solid State Drive
- 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6G Hard Drive
- 4GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 [DL DVI-I, HDMI, DP, DP, DP]
- SuperMulti DVD Burner
- HP Wireless 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 1x1 with Bluetooth M.2 NIC (Stone Peak 1)
- 7-in-1 Media Card Reader, 4 USB Ports (Top), Audio [Top 2USB2.0, 2USB3.0]
- Microsoft Office Trial
- No Additional Security Software
- Integrated Sound, Bang & Olufsen Audio
- HP USB volume control Keyboard and USB Optical Mouse
I could have selected cheaper components (6700 no K), 8GB ram, only one drive.. but you can get it all..
http://store.hp.com/us/en/Configure...1&storeId=10151&catEntryId=1029658&quantity=1
Anyone even considering a hackintosh should do some very serious research on reliability and software updates. I considered this option at one point. After thorough research I came to the conclusion that I did not want to deal with the constant tinkering, hacking, and toying with the machine to get it to work consistently. I'd hate to sit down to work on something only to find it doesn't want to boot that day. Then spend the next 4 hours troubleshooting it. Just remember, its a miracle to get the system to work for the first time. You will constantly have to tinker with it and mark my word THINGS WILL GO WRONG. Last I checked, you also do not get full operability (ie. iCloud).
If you don't mind these issues, by all means hack away. I think this is a great hobby for a secondary machine. Personally I spend the money on Apple computers (often twice as much as a comparable PC) because I want it to work flawlessly every time I sit down to do something. This is just my two cents...
So just what kind of 27" 5k Retina display do you have at 2/3 the price of a 27" iMac?
Sorry but you just don't "get it"
No I do get it. But I forgot to consider the Retina. But I don't want a Retina. I want at 1440p display (I'm 67 and my eyesight can't make use of Retina). I am mostly concerned with gaming and game development not photo editing. I wish that I had bought the late-2015 (or early-2015) 27" iMac when it had the i7 and 4GB GPU options, but with only 1440p worth of pixels to push around. I lost interest in iMacs when then added the Retina display with four times the pixels to push around but not upgrading the GPU to make up for that. That iMac may have been better for photo editing but was a step backward as far as gaming performance is concerned.
The difference between a nice experience and hell is picking up the right hardware. If someone want to make it work on their current hardware, it will probably be complicated. If you pick golden build suggestions, it's mostly problem free for the initial setup. It's the OSX upgrade that is the worst part, you can go from a working install to a halt in no time. You can upgrade softwares but wait for OSX release, make a good backup and update. For someone that would upgrade OSX once a year, it's not a major problem.
My board doesn't require anything special to run OSX. I install it and it just run.
But I was often fearing it would stop working anytime.
The one I'm looking at here in Tokyo is running the 6GB GeForce GTX 980Ti !I just had a peek at their offering (I normally build my own machine), it's quite interesting. For 2200$. You get :
add a nice 4k monitor and it's good to go!
- Windows 10 Home 64-bit OS
- 6th Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K processor quad-core [4.0GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
- 32GB DDR4-2133 DIMM (4x8GB) RAM
- 512GB SATA 2.5 Solid State Drive
- 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6G Hard Drive
- 4GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 [DL DVI-I, HDMI, DP, DP, DP]
- SuperMulti DVD Burner
- HP Wireless 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 1x1 with Bluetooth M.2 NIC (Stone Peak 1)
- 7-in-1 Media Card Reader, 4 USB Ports (Top), Audio [Top 2USB2.0, 2USB3.0]
- Microsoft Office Trial
- No Additional Security Software
- Integrated Sound, Bang & Olufsen Audio
- HP USB volume control Keyboard and USB Optical Mouse
I could have selected cheaper components (6700 no K), 8GB ram, only one drive.. but you can get it all..
http://store.hp.com/us/en/Configure...1&storeId=10151&catEntryId=1029658&quantity=1
I don't own a retina iMac but I don't think your required to game at 5K. If you game at 1440p, then it is an upgrade.
I agree with you there. I've know about Hacintosh problems. And I hate pissing around trying to get/keep something running. What I'll probably do is just run Windows 10 on really hi-perf HP hardware. And keep my old late-2009 27" iMac for running all my Mac art/drawing apps, and for building iPad apps. Or for the difference in price between an extreem-perf PC box and the new top of the line iMac I'll buy a refurbished Mac Mini (connect it to the same 1440p monitor) to run my Mac apps.
You can order BTO in store and pay with Apple Pay by buying gift cards with Apple Pay and ordering online with them. Maximum per gift card in store is like $2,000 each I believe.
These aren't like phones or tablets where your performance is determined by the native resolution you are locked into. You can run a game at 1440 or 1080 and experience better performance then you would at 5k and better then prior years 1440p. Just like any computer, the monitor you have plugged into it won't determine the performance, just the resolution you have it set too.
I agree in principle except I would change "the market" to "apple". Meaning once a TB3/USB-c display is ready then all macs will get updated.
Even if nobody else is using usb-c, once apple unveils a whole new ecosystem around displays and charging they will push everyone onto it.
For the people on the fence about usb-c.
I would think about it like this. And coming from a heavy media user (photo video) who needs decent longevity (3-5 years)
Along with USB-C we're also likely to see the 10Gig UBS3.1 standard coming along. So if you need those speeds (SSDs in RAID for example) then that's a factor.
I would think about it like this. And coming from a heavy media user (photo video) who needs decent longevity (3-5 years)
Along with USB-C we're also likely to see the 10Gig UBS3.1 standard coming along. So if you need those speeds (SSDs in RAID for example) then that's a factor.