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You guys aren't so much spinning in circles, as you are circling a drain. :)

This entire conversation is a whirlpool. :D

Yeah, it's definitely easy. I'm a digital man myself, and I'm very happy that Apple has enabled iTunes in the Cloud for movies in Australia, as I can download all the movies I've bought previously, and I can even download 1080p versions (if they exist) for the "HD" movies I've bought.

If only they would drop the prices now. Some are $30 but only $20 in the US.

I doubt I will ever be able to justify such costs, even twenty for the blu-ray, dvd combo pack filled with extras is too much unless it was a major film I wanted to own and even then I would wait for a price drop or find it used. That just states I like to find really good prices and can only judge the digital pricing on the standards and they are still asking too much, not sure where they thought asking twenty dollars for something of less quality was a good idea.

Thirty dollar is extreme, even twenty is, then there is the issue of catalog titles, these films you can find for five dollars new yet iTunes would want fifteen for a SD edition and twenty for an HD version.

I imagine a lot of people just do not care, it is in their budget to pay these prices, I am just too used to five dollar blu-rays and two dollar dvds (used market). Some could call me cheap and yes, I will agree with that, I like the idea of getting as much as I can.

I did make my own HTPC awhile back, of course we are talking full quality blu-ray films (from my personal collection to note) and those files can be large, 25-50GB each.

Wait till your house burns and all your DVD copies are destroyed.

You'll be praying for a cloud backup.

Media rated fire safe.

I do like the idea of cloud storage for back ups only, I still want my content with me. One can always send over an encrypted file.
 
You mean the same business model that went like this:
Snow Leopard - DVD Only
Lion - Download and USB Flash Drives (they caved)
Mountain Lion - Download Only

As you can see, Apples business model is digital. How will buying the program on disc where they get 0% of help them when they can nab 30% from the App store?

Guess you don't know their business model that well?

Did I miss the memo where Apple said you could only install applications via the MAS?
 
Did I miss the memo where Apple said you could only install applications via the MAS?

No, you missed the memo where Apple stopped releasing it's own software on disc. Ya know, the thing that everyone is going crazy for that they simply can't get rid of because how else will grandpa and grandma rip DVDs?!

Oh, wait, they can just stream it to their TV with an AppleTV...
 
No, you missed the memo where Apple stopped releasing it's own software on disc. Ya know, the thing that everyone is going crazy for that they simply can't get rid of because how else will grandpa and grandma rip DVDs?!

Oh, wait, they can just stream it to their TV with an AppleTV...

Your clearly out of touch, don't know what your talking about. And you are clearly a consumer, you 100% consume content. You do not create it, nor do you contribute anything to the consumer world.

All your posts prove that.

Go play Angry Birds on your iPad.

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It's a Xeon equipped computer with a mobile Q4000 graphics card with upwards of 32GB ECC RAM. It's not the absolute bleeding edge of the latest and greatest in computer technology, but it's definitely more a Mac Pro than it is an iMac.

And who cares how thick an AIO desktop is? I can understand thinness being an issue with a laptop, but you'll never be moving this thing around. It'll always be in your house, sitting on your desk.

You're only griping and calling it crap because you want to gripe and call it crap.

Indeed, while the RAM isn't enough for my work needs, for my freelance needs.

Its more than enough.

And who cares how heavy it is right? its a desktop.
 
No, you missed the memo where Apple stopped releasing it's own software on disc. Ya know, the thing that everyone is going crazy for that they simply can't get rid of because how else will grandpa and grandma rip DVDs?!

Oh, wait, they can just stream it to their TV with an AppleTV...

I see no issue with software not being on disc overall because be it download or USB etc it still does the same thing. Most of my software is digital be that most of it is freeware if not all, much better then discs because I would rather not have to load each program that way. Movies and music is a bit different.

What type of streaming? Not overpriced rentals? These services are not going to have everything anyway.
 
Wait till your house burns and all your DVD copies are destroyed.

You'll be praying for a cloud backup.

I keep my Blu Rays/DVDs in a fireproof/water proof 400 pound safe.

I keep another set at the bank downtown in a lockbox, inside a vault that can survive a nuclear attack.

I'll be fine,.
 
Your clearly out of touch, don't know what your talking about. And you are clearly a consumer, you 100% consume content. You do not create it, nor do you contribute anything to the consumer world.

All your posts prove that.

Go play Angry Birds on your iPad.
Sorry, you are clearly out of touch. Apple dumped the Macbook (had an ODD), removed it from the Mac Mini and did not include one with the new Macbook Retina. If anyone is out of touch, it would be you.

I don't play too many games on my iPad. Sorry, it's used for work. WAIT! I forgot, real work can only be done on things that take discs :rolleyes:
 
Well that's really too bad. Because a guy who specs out an iMac "alternative" that costs more than a Mac Pro but performs half as well - and is convinced he's made some kind of point in the process - is someone that will certainly be missed.

:cool:

Performs much better than half as well.

And its an AIO, I should mention. would a mac pro be a better choice? Maybe. But 5000 dollars is NOT an object to me, I spent more on booze in 5 months.
 
I keep my Blu Rays/DVDs in a fireproof/water proof 400 pound safe.

I keep another set at the bank downtown in a lockbox, inside a vault that can survive a nuclear attack.

I'll be fine,.

Wow, you are pretty cooky. All that to save some episodes of Spongebob?

You keep your DVDs and Blu-rays in a fireproof save? LMAO. No you don't. Stop making stuff up.
 
Sorry, you are clearly out of touch. Apple dumped the Macbook (had an ODD), removed it from the Mac Mini and did not include one with the new Macbook Retina. If anyone is out of touch, it would be you.

I don't play too many games on my iPad. Sorry, it's used for work. WAIT! I forgot, real work can only be done on things that take discs :rolleyes:

I am out of touch? Pretty sure I make a lot more money than you do with my machines, and I own more machines than you, so clearly. I am more in touch.

And if you can get " real work done " on an iPad, your not a power user, your a fool who THINKS they're a power user.

Have fun when your data on the " cloud " gets hacked and you lose all of it.

Ill be laughing my ass off with my hard copies ;)
 
Sorry, you are clearly out of touch. Apple dumped the Macbook (had an ODD), removed it from the Mac Mini and did not include one with the new Macbook Retina.

My question would be which one do you think would effect sales more? Having an optical drive or removing it? For those who want it and is a deal breaker they can no longer think of these systems as an opinion, future lost sales while leaving them there would hardly effect sales unless someone is being insanely petty because it is Apple and some people will buy anything regardless.

I will always believe having a lot of functionality to be the best idea.

You keep your DVDs and Blu-rays in a fireproof save? LMAO. No you don't. Stop making stuff up.

Why is that far fetched? I would and do have a safe myself to protect a few important items.
 
I am out of touch? Pretty sure I make a lot more money than you do with my machines, and I own more machines than you, so clearly. I am more in touch.

And if you can get " real work done " on an iPad, your not a power user, your a fool who THINKS they're a power user.

Have fun when your data on the " cloud " gets hacked and you lose all of it.

Ill be laughing my ass off with my hard copies ;)

Ooooooooh. You make more money. Ooooooooooooooh :rolleyes:

You are out of touch. Since you make soooooooooo much money, you should just but an external Blu-ray drive and mount it on your unicorn that you can afford. Thanks for the laughs. I know I've won when you try and whip your e-penis out about how much money you "make". Please - go buy an HP like you want and leave. You obviously can't afford an iMac.
 
Wait till your house burns and all your DVD copies are destroyed.

You'll be praying for a cloud backup.

My house could burn down, and be flooded. My Blu Rays and DVDs won't be effected.

And why would I want cloud backup? Its not private, its subject to EULA, and not any more reliable, what if a tordnado hits the data center and its all gone? what do I do then?
 
My question would be which one do you think would effect sales more? Having an optical drive or removing it? For those who want it and is a deal breaker they can no longer think of these systems as an opinion, future lost sales while leaving them there would hardly effect sales unless someone is being insanely petty because it is Apple and some people will buy anything regardless.

I will always believe having a lot of functionality to be the best idea.

Removing it.

Apple can sell the $79.99 Superdrive to all the old people who need (or think at least) one. Once again, they save money on not buying the component, they save money on shipping the iMac (less weight).

Leaving the ODD in on a potential redesign (I still think we have a 'spec bump' this year) will make them a laughing stock if they continue to use the same design for 4ish years like they tend to. In 2016 it's just to be hilarious. It would be like seeing a floppy drive on a laptop today. The iMac line is likely running to an end anyway at this point.
 
Ooooooooh. You make more money. Ooooooooooooooh :rolleyes:

You are out of touch. Since you make soooooooooo much money, you should just but an external Blu-ray drive and mount it on your unicorn that you can afford. Thanks for the laughs. I know I've won when you try and whip your e-penis out about how much money you "make". Please - go buy an HP like you want and leave. You obviously can't afford an iMac.

If your making money on an iPad, I'm making more than you, alot more. Thats a fact. I doubt you have the grey matter to do my job.

Why would I waste money on an external? It ruins the point of an AIO. I my has well get a tower for my living room.

ANd HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I have more Macs than you do, all bought brand new.

ANd guess what buddy, 4,000 dollars? Not an object to me.

YOU are out of touch. Your not a power user, your not a pro, your just a consumer who uses tech for garbage consumption. ;)

I'll keep counting my money, you keep playing angry birds? Fair. I think so.


ANd I hate to break your fanboy bubble, that decked out HP rapes an iMac ;)
 
My house could burn down, and be flooded. My Blu Rays and DVDs won't be effected.

And why would I want cloud backup? Its not private, its subject to EULA, and not any more reliable, what if a tordnado hits the data center and its all gone? what do I do then?

So you are more concerned with $500 worth of Blu-rays and DVDs over your house? You need a firesafe to protect maybe a couple hundred dollars worth of discs?

Wow.

Really, you should invest in some robots and unicorns cause you're so rich.
 
Removing it.

Apple can sell the $79.99 Superdrive to all the old people who need (or think at least) one. Once again, they save money on not buying the component, they save money on shipping the iMac (less weight).

Im assuming you work for Apple right? " Yeah, we dropped an industry standard, give us 80 dollars ) "

Who cares how much money Apple says? THEY ARE A ****ING FACELESS GIANT CORPORATION! They don't give a **** about saving you money. They care about profit, and thats it.

You won't save a penny. If you really think you will, your more clueless than I thought.

Leaving the ODD in on a potential redesign (I still think we have a 'spec bump' this year) will make them a laughing stock if they continue to use the same design for 4ish years like they tend to. In 2016 it's just to be hilarious. It would be like seeing a floppy drive on a laptop today. The iMac line is likely running to an end anyway at this point.

Your right, its time for Apple to get rid of real computers, and go to itoys Crap.

You should probably run Apple, I trust you.
 
If your making money on an iPad, I'm making more than you, alot more. Thats a fact. I doubt you have the grey matter to do my job.

Why would I waste money on an external? It ruins the point of an AIO. I my has well get a tower for my living room.

ANd HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I have more Macs than you do, all bought brand new.

ANd guess what buddy, 4,000 dollars? Not an object to me.

YOU are out of touch. Your not a power user, your not a pro, your just a consumer who uses tech for garbage consumption. ;)

I'll keep counting my money, you keep playing angry birds? Fair. I think so.


ANd I hate to break your fanboy bubble, that decked out HP rapes an iMac ;)

Man, I so wish I could be you. I bet you have a butler and a maid. Can you adopt me?
 
So you are more concerned with $500 worth of Blu-rays and DVDs over your house? You need a firesafe to protect maybe a couple hundred dollars worth of discs?

Wow.

Really, you should invest in some robots and unicorns cause you're so rich.

Try over 150,000 dollars worth of data. Some of us actually care about backups, and do more with our machines than backup pictures of some ****** family reunion.
 
Wait till your house burns and all your DVD copies are destroyed.

You'll be praying for a cloud backup.


Stop being a jackass. Your acting like a spoiled little kid that didn't get what he wanted for christmas.

Or course anything can happen but the chances are greater that a server gets hacked than my house burning down. I don't have millions and millions of people accessing my house like they do a server. There a great chance of a hacker gaining access to a server than my house burning down. I've been in this house 20+ years and haven't had a worry. How long has apple servers been up? Not 20+ years but I do remember some iCloud accounts being hacked a couple moths ago. Guess what my stuff is still safe. Can you say the same for the people's info that got stolen? Can you say indenity theft? A lot easier to steal online then grab my DVDs.


Get real and grow up


James
 
Im assuming you work for Apple right? " Yeah, we dropped an industry standard, give us 80 dollars ) "

Who cares how much money Apple says? THEY ARE A ****ING FACELESS GIANT CORPORATION! They don't give a **** about saving you money. They care about profit, and thats it.

You won't save a penny. If you really think you will, your more clueless than I thought.

....which is exactly why they will remove it. They can sell you the ODD for $80. My point is even more valid thanks to you going nuts.

Your right, its time for Apple to get rid of real computers, and go to itoys Crap.

You should probably run Apple, I trust you.

"Macs" are apparently 15% of their business. 50% is iPhones and something like 25%ish is iPads. clearly they (and myself) know what makes them money. Have you been in an Apple store lately? It's a ton of iPads and iPhones. iMacs and such are there, but losing space rapidly. Come Wednesday, probably even more! So
 
Stop being a jackass. Your acting like a spoiled little kid that didn't get what he wanted for christmas.

Or course anything can happen but the chances are greater that a server gets hacked than my house burning down. I don't have millions and millions of people accessing my house like they do a server.

Get real and grow up


James

This guy is beyond reason, he's 12 years old. And Drinks Kool Aid.

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....which is exactly why they will remove it. They can sell you the ODD for $80. My point is even more valid thanks to you going nuts.



"Macs" are apparently 15% of their business. 50% is iPhones and something like 25%ish is iPads. clearly they (and myself) know what makes them money. Have you been in an Apple store lately? It's a ton of iPads and iPhones. iMacs and such are there, but losing space rapidly. Come Wednesday, probably even more! So

This makes me think you must work for Apple.

So you willing to trade real computers for useless garbage?
 
I do have a maid, but no butler.

But I also do real work with my machines.

Let me know when playing ****** gaming Apps on your ipad is a job.

A maid? Woah!!!!!!!!!!

Real work = requires Disc drive

Got it.

I'll go back to playing PUZZLE CRAFT (Angry Birds is so June 2011) and you can go back to making REALZ MONIES.

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This guy is beyond reason, he's 12 years old. And Drinks Kool Aid.

Sorry grandpa, not 12.

This makes me think you must work for Apple.

So you willing to trade real computers for useless garbage?

Work for Apple? No, never. I would be, like, playing gamez and stuff all day. Ya know, not doing "real work".
 
Removing it.

Apple can sell the $79.99 Superdrive to all the old people who need (or think at least) one. Once again, they save money on not buying the component, they save money on shipping the iMac (less weight).

That is rather petty based on what Apple charges anyway, the wright is almost nothing and that it only to their benefit and personally I am not too concerned with what helps Apple and more concerned what I require out of a system.

Not about being old, I know I am not old, I just use my systems for movies and such.

Leaving the ODD in on a potential redesign (I still think we have a 'spec bump' this year) will make them a laughing stock if they continue to use the same design for 4ish years like they tend to. In 2016 it's just to be hilarious. It would be like seeing a floppy drive on a laptop today. The iMac line is likely running to an end anyway at this point.

When it comes to Apple it seems they have to change the design a lot more then other companies. I cannot say what the future holds, I am not even sure what my needs will be in a few years, I know that I will not buy overpriced downloads, I cannot see that changing. With a home theater on its own it is likely the drive would be used less and less over time.

Twenty years from now? Hard to say, I think we would have to see said format completely go away before it is removed overall, and since it is still standard that could take some time. Will I still care in ten or twenty years? No idea, a LOT has changed within the last decade so I will not state I will be the same then as I am now.
 
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