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I truly understand the launch time

if it was to get released at 12am everywhere people that live in PST would get the release first, then a hour later MST would get it, then a hour later CST would get it, then EST would get it. if they launched it like this the iPhone would get sold out before it even reaches CST or maybe before MST.

there is a 3 hour difference in time when looking at PST and EST. they decided to launch it so that everyone has the chance to get it from the west cost to the east cost. which means if it launches at 12am in California (PST) it will get released at 3am in NYC (EST).

There is nothing to really misunderstand about why they did this. unless you do not understand about synchronous launch times and misunderstand timezones.

You know that time zones don't matter on the internet, right?

Also, they could still launch preorders in-store at some time like 2pm EST and still get the entire US simultaneously during store hours...
 
Nobody seems to realize that in June, when the new iPhone 5 or iPhone 4G comes out, this iPhone 4 will become obsolete.
I have ATT and will have no problem upgrading to a new iPhone 5, by extending my contract for 2 years, since I've been doing since the day the original iPhone was introduced.
ATT is rolling out the 4G network soon. It should be ready by June.
People that buy a Verizon iPhone won't be able to pay the subsidized price until 2.10.2012 and they are gonna be pissed off when in just 4 months their phone is limited to 3G and they can't upgrade for another 7 months... I would be. :rolleyes:

actually this has been discussed at length. I am eligible for 3 upgrades on my plan so they could roll out a new phone whenever they feel like it, I will get the subsidized price. And I will have a 4th by the end of the year. Oh the spoils of waiting for 18 months for this phone.
 
I truly understand the launch time

if it was to get released at 12am everywhere people that live in PST would get the release first, then a hour later MST would get it, then a hour later CST would get it, then EST would get it. if they launched it like this the iPhone would get sold out before it even reaches CST or maybe before MST.

there is a 3 hour difference in time when looking at PST and EST. they decided to launch it so that everyone has the chance to get it from the west cost to the east cost. which means if it launches at 12am in California (PST) it will get released at 3am in NYC (EST).

There is nothing to really misunderstand about why they did this. unless you do not understand about synchronous launch times and misunderstand timezones.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you know that EST would be first on this list and not last and that this is just a typo. Also, there are other ways they could accomplish this. Maybe allocate specific amounts for each time slot. Or just say 12AM EST for everyone.
 
I bet they run out at 3:05am good luck people and that is if the VZ site doesn't crash. Remember its going to be you vs probably 2 million people.
 
I would be extremely surprised if the VZ Iphone gets updated in July when ATT does. I would expect them to become dual phones next summer, July 2012.

Dual phones might be tough since every spare millimeter of the iPhone interior is used for something. Maybe in a few years, if they can reduce the chips enough.

IMO, if they go two phones, either they will skip a summer launch and go to a Nov-Dec-ish launch for both new phones or they will do AT&T in the summer and VZW in Nov-Dec and keep them six months apart. The latter seems a more likely scenario since it would be a nightmare for the manufacturers to make enough phones for both carriers at the same time. When they refreshed AT&T, they ran out late in the day and some people had to wait an extra week or two. Doubling that for a single launch would be impossible, there wouldn't be enough parts, screens, etc to do both carriers at the same time.

The only problem with this scenario though is, I don't think Apple wants to make VZW look like a second class citizen by having to wait six months for the newest model.
 
I bet they run out at 3:05am good luck people and that is if the VZ site doesn't crash. Remember its going to be you vs probably 2 million people.

I know, it was pretty arrogant of VZW earlier this week to declare that there will be no problems during the launch.
 
VZW iP4 Insurance - or lack there of...

Don't know if you guys have heard or not, but I spoke with a VZW rep not too long ago and they said that VZW's iP4 won't be eligible for VZW insurance. They will only offer Apple Care according to what I was told.

Anyone done their research on what is a good alternative for damaged or stolen coverage?:apple:
 
I actually work that night, still debating switching to verizon now or waiting till the next iPhone is out. Well 5 days to figure it out.

You actually have 12 days. If you had read the article you would have notched the presale in 5 days is for current verizon customers.
 
I know this has already been covered, but...

As someone in the UK..I am amazed at the amount of news coverage this gets….a phone has moved to a new carrier, er…is this news? Its probably got more column inches than the mass protests in Egypt..a sense of perspective required people?

-Covenant.

...ever heard of Paris Hilton? More people know of her sex tape than are aware of the fact that Egypt is a country, let alone one experiencing some manner of unrest.

The media is directed at the masses, not scholars. This particular branch of "the media" is directed at apple-related news. And I assure you, these people aren't scholars either. ;)

P.S. ...notice the "winkie" face before you get all mad at me. :)
 
I bet they run out at 3:05am good luck people and that is if the VZ site doesn't crash. Remember its going to be you vs probably 2 million people.

The first iPhone 4 launch was WAY WAY bigger than this one, since it was a new phone...it didn't sell out in 5 minutes. I expect the demand for this to be roughly the same as the iPad, which is alot but not as much as the first launch of the iPhone 4. Plus, the iPad launch was ONLY on Apple, where this is on two sites, so the demand will spread.
 
I was puzzled for 5 seconds or so not seeing anything count down.

If I were Verizon I wouldn't put up an iPhone information page with the main and most exiting bit of information done in Flash.

It's not that hard to make a JavaScript countdown.

Perhaps it was deliberately done with Flash as a subtly ironic statement.

Even if it wasn't deliberate, I was amused.
 
I wish Apple and Verizon would divulge whether Verizon will be getting future iPhone models at the same time as AT&T. Getting an iPhone in February, only to have the new model out in June, would suck.
 
I wish Apple and Verizon would divulge whether Verizon will be getting future iPhone models at the same time as AT&T. Getting an iPhone in February, only to have the new model out in June, would suck.

That would not be a good business move. I would be extremely surprised if a new VZ model comes out this summer, I am sure they will wait and combine the two in 2012.
 
I am amazed

I am surprised and intrigued by how fast people can shift gears from there wont be an Iphone for verizon...till 2012...its not going to happen.... to verizon wont get the newest iphone the new iphone will be here in june. It has to be here in june right? I think if you look at all this as just buisness you will see apple releasing the newest iphone in 2012. The signs for the Veriphone were there by buisness decisions and advertising. You will see the same signs for the new Iphone when it comes to pass. Since apple broke there normal system and are no longer tied to AT&T they more than likely will change there releases as well. It just doesnt make buisness sense to in one fell swoop isolate a brand new audience in 6 months and put a strain on your manufacturers just to put out a phone that if pushed back till 2012 will aleviate all those issues. Its common sense really.
 
I am surprised and intrigued by how fast people can shift gears from there wont be an Iphone for verizon...till 2012...its not going to happen.... to verizon wont get the newest iphone the new iphone will be here in june. It has to be here in june right? I think if you look at all this as just buisness you will see apple releasing the newest iphone in 2012. The signs for the Veriphone were there by buisness decisions and advertising. You will see the same signs for the new Iphone when it comes to pass. Since apple broke there normal system and are no longer tied to AT&T they more than likely will change there releases as well. It just doesnt make buisness sense to in one fell swoop isolate a brand new audience in 6 months and put a strain on your manufacturers just to put out a phone that if pushed back till 2012 will aleviate all those issues. Its common sense really.

Yes and besides, the world is ending in 2012 so let us Verizon customers enjoy the device for the short time we can.
 
You know that time zones don't matter on the internet, right?

Also, they could still launch preorders in-store at some time like 2pm EST and still get the entire US simultaneously during store hours...

Time zones may not matter much on the internet but in actuality they do in people lives.

They could launch in store at 2 PM EST, and I'm not sure why anyobody would think that was more convenient as most people I know ar working but, ok. Sounds like it's more convenient FOR YOU though.

They are not doing that however, and it's not going to change. So it's time one either decides to do deal with it, or move along and find something better to do than ponder about the "Hows and Whys of it all".
 
That would not be a good business move. I would be extremely surprised if a new VZ model comes out this summer, I am sure they will wait and combine the two in 2012.

so is it worse to get a new phone and have an updated version come out 6 months later.....

or

get screwed for 18 months with no option to upgrade at all when everyone else gets to do it every 12 months.

I would rather have the new one come out in 6 months and have an option.
 
What is not clear is if I'll be able to keep my family plan, and just add data to it to get the phone. It appears as if they're purposefully being vague about the whole situation.
 
What is not clear is if I'll be able to keep my family plan, and just add data to it to get the phone. It appears as if they're purposefully being vague about the whole situation.

Or perhaps they simply expect us to know that it's business as usual.

If you could normally keep your family plan and add data to one line, then that should still be true.

Verizon seems to be basically treating the iPhone as just another hot selling smartphone, with preorders and all.

The only goofball part is that they expect people to do their own saving and transfer of voice mail. Is that normal for VZW because they use a third party for visual voice mail or something?
 
The first iPhone 4 launch was WAY WAY bigger than this one, since it was a new phone...it didn't sell out in 5 minutes. I expect the demand for this to be roughly the same as the iPad, which is alot but not as much as the first launch of the iPhone 4. Plus, the iPad launch was ONLY on Apple, where this is on two sites, so the demand will spread.

I don't think it's completely fair to say that the AT&T iPhone 4 launch was "WAY WAY" bigger. You have nothing to base that on. How do you know what the numbers will be for the Verizon iPhone launch? It could very well be even bigger than the AT&T launch, simply because it is the first iPhone on the network.
 
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