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Verizon Freaking Delivered with LTE, I am not sure how att can top this...

Man, I love the usual haters.

My data plan is unlimited. I've used about 3.3 gigs since I got the phone on the 17th. I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan (or at least it will be grandfathered soon enough), and frankly I want to deal with a delightful logical stupidity.

Which is better? Throttled speeds over a certain threshold or specific and enumerated charges past a certain threshold?

I'll take the throttling, which I doubt I'll ever actually see. Even if I do, I doubt the throttling will be crippling. It serves little purpose for any carrier to outright enrage it's customers.
 
Bonds79 said:
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunder...te-speeds.html

This thread makes me want to get a thunderbolt 4G just to be grandfathered into unlimited data and use the phone till VZW releases a LTE iphone!

This was a speedtest from user Milan03 in the thread above with a ThunderBolt. Crazy FAST!

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And incidentally his battery completely died immediately after the test too. :D
 
ThunderBolt truly living up to its name. Drains battery juice just as fast.

This is no fault of HTC. Battery technology just hasn't caught up yet. I barely can get 7 hours with 3G.

Props to HTC. Single core Snapdragon and dusting everybody in sight overclocked. Alot of the innovations is coming from HTC and not Android itself. Bigger screens, faster speeds (Nexus One), and comes with the nicest customized Android skins. Remember this was the same Taiwanese manufacturer making all those Pocket PC phones. Not surprised ThunderBolt is outselling iPhone 4 right now on Verizon. Just remember to bring your charger everywhere as seen from Evo 4G users last year.

LTE has some amazing speeds though. Once we have the enough more juice to power up these speed demons for 4G, I am all for it. We are just in LTE's infancy and not even deployed all over the world yet. No different than iPhone 2G owners with zero official 3rd party apps that first year. Give it time. The next era can eliminate our needs for an internet connection at home.
 
Until verizon and at&t and other carriers offer unlimited data at a reasonable price LTE and 4 g speeds are pretty much pointless. Tether to a laptop, for what, basic web browsing , email, Facebook? The real use for the speed is for downloading movies or streaming the movies and video, in which case you blow through any data cap and end up paying hundreds in overages or simply shut diwn until the next billing period.


Slingplayer which is fully approved by ATT can eat up the 4gig tether plan in about 15 hours. So forget about following a sporting event such as the NCAA tourney at the office over a few days. Until they build a network that can actually handle real world uses and capabilitoes of the devices on it, it all BS marketing to lock you into a crappy contract with a phone that has a ball and chain known as a data cap.

When LTE finally shows up where i live, im willing to pay $70 or upwards of $100 a month, but give me a home router and unlimited data so i can actually use the device for all my data needs. Its time to stop paying for data plans on a phone, at home, and some USB, Mifi or hotspot feature on the phone. First company to do this right will earn my business.
 
Bonds79 said:
It is very tempting to get a ThunderBolt just to be grandfathered in to unlimited LTE! and you can tether android for free once you jailbreak it, the jailbreak process is call rooting your android phone then download the wifi tether for free app, similar to a jailbroken iphone>
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First of all, Not everyone wants to jailbreak the phone and tether. That's stealing. You are cheating the system and stealing. No, I don't want to risk myself doing that and ever get caught. It's people like them always get in trouble sooner or later.


Jailbreak is not a solution, period. Because if you have questions, then who will help? No one.


So, that's not a solution.
 
Reaper0bot0 said:
It serves little purpose for any carrier to outright enrage it's customers.
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Yet they do it time and time again and justify their actions with idiotic press statements and fake internal numbers.

Price increase. "Consumers win with this increase"
Unlimited data gone? "Consumers will see better service!"

Of course, both are complete garbage but that is what we should expect again and again in today's world
 
jav6454 said:
I obviously won't find one given the fact Verizon's network is too slow to get an actual reading when or when not throttled.
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Lame/untrue response.

I don't even have a Verizon phone but from what I can tell there's a lot of sour grapes in this thread.
 
Geckotek said:
Lame/untrue response.

I don't even have a Verizon phone but from what I can tell there's a lot of sour grapes in this thread.
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So its untrue Verizon's network averages at 900 Kb/s? Anandtech did some becnhes on both networks in areas equally covered by both. Results speak volumes.

Bear in mind these were iPad numbers; however, iPhone 4 numbers will be very alike if not the same because of same basebands. I'll give you the shot of the table, but you can well go ahead and see for yourself, by clicking me
 

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hcho3 said:
First of all, Not everyone wants to jailbreak the phone and tether. That's stealing. You are cheating the system and stealing. No, I don't want to risk myself doing that and ever get caught. It's people like them always get in trouble sooner or later.


Jailbreak is not a solution, period. Because if you have questions, then who will help? No one.


So, that's not a solution.
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actually, tons of people on here and modmyi will help
and worst comes to worse, you just do a software restore and take it into an apple genius...they'll never know

cheating the system by getting free tethering? yea, sure
stealing? ok (definitley yes if you're on an unlimited plan). I don't think they should charge me more to use the same amount of data that I have alotted on a non tehtering plan the way I want (they pretty much covered this argument by giving an extra 2gb to tethering customers though)
but not a solution for anything? no. Its a solution for a lot of things...jailbreaking is great, if not used for anything illegal, and done smartly and correctly, it will only improve your iPhone experience
 
I was in my bro-laws house last Saturday and he lives in a rural community near Lady Lake, FL and could barely get 4G signal in his house. He is right on the fringe of it and was able to pull down 10Mbps consistently.

Hate all you want on Verizon but their LTE coverage is going to dominate by the end of 2011 and will probably surpass AT&T's 3G coverage.
 
JoJoCal19 said:
I was in my bro-laws house last Saturday and he lives in a rural community near Lady Lake, FL and could barely get 4G signal in his house. He is right on the fringe of it and was able to pull down 10Mbps consistently.

Hate all you want on Verizon but their LTE coverage is going to dominate by the end of 2011 and will probably surpass AT&T's 3G coverage.
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Being an AT&T customer at present I'm hoping that AT&T will be able to provide LTE coverage that VZW is forecasted to have. VZW forecasts 2/3 of the USA will be covered with LTE. That's pretty impressive.

However I'm not dissapointed that AT&T is behind. I just hope AT&T will be able to pull of LTE coverage and deploy LTE similar to VZW.

What I'm concerned about is whether or not if one has a grandfathered unltd data plan if you will be able to be eligible for unltd AT&T LTE? At least it's a fact that VZW is offering unltd LTE and most likely you will be grandfathered.... With AT&T we don't know. I get great service with AT&T and get great service discounts and accessory discounts. I do know that I can get great service from VZW as well as I live in a region where AT&T and VZW are almost equal in coverage but AT&T is faster. I'm an iPhone user with unltd data and will stay with the iPhone. I would be disappointed if I wasn't able to get unltd LTE for my iPhone when an LTE iPhone comes out.

I would be even pissed off if VZW offered unltd LTE for the iPhone for existing unltd LTE customers if AT&T doesn't offer unltd LTE even though you have an unltd data plan. By that time it might be too late to jump to VZW cause it's likely they won't be offering unltd LTE data.

Speaking for myself, it sort of puts me in a position where I am considering VZW which I don't want to.
 
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jav6454 said:
So its untrue Verizon's network averages at 900 Kb/s? Anandtech did some becnhes on both networks in areas equally covered by both. Results speak volumes.

Bear in mind these were iPad numbers; however, iPhone 4 numbers will be very alike if not the same because of same basebands. I'll give you the shot of the table, but you can well go ahead and see for yourself, by clicking me
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No, this is untrue.

jav6454 said:
I obviously won't find one given the fact Verizon's network is too slow to get an actual reading when or when not throttled.
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900 Kb/s while not blazing fast is nothing to sneeze at. I can't get that sitting on my couch w/ AT&T @ home and I live in the Uptown area of Dallas, not some podunk country town. Also, if I switch to Verizon LTE right now AT&T has nothing to compare in my area.

Stop over exaggerating everything.
 
Geckotek said:
No, this is untrue.



900 Kb/s while not blazing fast is nothing to sneeze at. I can't get that sitting on my couch w/ AT&T @ home and I live in the Uptown area of Dallas, not some podunk country town. Also, if I switch to Verizon LTE right now AT&T has nothing to compare in my area.

Stop over exaggerating everything.
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Correct me if I'm wrong... this is iPhone related...

I believe hspa+ is enabled on the iPhone in AT&T network or either AT&T has turned up iPhone data speeds. I've noticed significant higher speeds since AT&T has been to the college I work at and did something with the towers in regards to hspa+.

I know this cause I had a VZW work iPhone that I had to
turn in a couple of weeks ago and was able to compare my personal AT&T iPhone with it and you my AT&T iPhone was significantely faster after the upgrade to the towers at the college. Prior to the upgrade AT&T and VZW iPhone were pretty close with AT&T performing a bit faster. Now it's not even close.
 
mpossoff said:
Correct me if I'm wrong... this is iPhone related...

I believe hspa+ is enabled on the iPhone in AT&T network or either AT&T has turned up iPhone data speeds. I've noticed significant higher speeds since AT&T has been to the college I work at and did something with the towers in regards to hspa+.

I know this cause I had a VZW work iPhone that I had to
turn in a couple of weeks ago and was able to compare my personal AT&T iPhone with it and you my AT&T iPhone was significantely faster after the upgrade to the towers at the college. Prior to the upgrade AT&T and VZW iPhone were pretty close with AT&T performing a bit faster. Now it's not even close.
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iPhone doesn't have HSPA+. And nobody is saying the AT&T iPhone isn't faster. That was never the argugment.

Point is this....Verizon rolled out 3G and they were SPANKING AT&T with it for a long while. AT&T updated Edge with the rollout of the first iPhone, but this was still far short of Verizon's 3G speeds. AT&T finally rolled out 3G and their version was newer and faster (to be less technical about it) and they are currently beating Verizon by about 30% on average based on the reports I've read. Now Verizon is rolling out LTE and they are beating AT&T again. Not as badly as 3G blew away Edge but by a significant amount. And then AT&T will get LTE as well...and we'll see if they get a newer/faster version than Verizon at that time.

Either way it's a cycle and I don't understand why everyone comes on here arguing and crying over it. It's not that big of a deal. Stop being a bunch of carrier fanboys.

Oh, but since Jav likes to quote Anandtech, I'll go ahead and quote Engadget...why not...

Unfortunately, Verizon was the slowest of the bunch (albeit not by much), and AT&T was the victor by a country mile in terms of Kbps. If it's speed you're after (and really, who's not after speed?), we can't help but recommend AT&T -- if you're within one of the carrier's limited 3G areas. The other caveat here is that for whatever reason, AT&T's reliability -- particularly in densely populated areas -- has been disreputably suspect.
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I understand that you are excited. The speeds truly are impressive. But did you need to open a second thread?
 
try downloading stuff to see if you can get those kind of speeds. I'd suggest downloading iTunes (I've gotten over 10 Mbytes/second so Apple's servers can handle the speed).
 
Geckotek said:
iPhone doesn't have HSPA+. And nobody is saying the AT&T iPhone isn't faster. That was never the argugment.

Point is this....Verizon rolled out 3G and they were SPANKING AT&T with it for a long while. AT&T updated Edge with the rollout of the first iPhone, but this was still far short of Verizon's 3G speeds. AT&T finally rolled out 3G and their version was newer and faster (to be less technical about it) and they are currently beating Verizon by about 30% on average based on the reports I've read. Now Verizon is rolling out LTE and they are beating AT&T again. Not as badly as 3G blew away Edge but by a significant amount. And then AT&T will get LTE as well...and we'll see if they get a newer/faster version than Verizon at that time.

Either way it's a cycle and I don't understand why everyone comes on here arguing and crying over it. It's not that big of a deal. Stop being a bunch of carrier fanboys.

Oh, but since Jav likes to quote Anandtech, I'll go ahead and quote Engadget...why not...
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I think VZW had no choice but to build another network because their 3G network IMO isn't good for smartphone data usage. IMO AT&T 3G network is best for smartphone data usage.

In order to compete VZW had to buildout LTE.

Like you said it's a cycle.
 
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