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Verizon iPhone 5 Will Not Offer Simultaneous Voice and Data [Update: It Was A Hardware Decision]
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Seriously. How often is it necessary to talk and browse the internet at the same time while not within range of a wifi network?
This isn't a huge inconvenience for many people with the exception of those who rely on unsecured networks for their wifi access or those who tether regularly.
In other words.. about 2% of iPhone owners.
This isn't a huge inconvenience for many people with the exception of those who rely on unsecured networks for their wifi access or those who tether regularly.
In other words.. about 2% of iPhone owners.
"unlimited minutes on the share everything plans? Who cares! No one talks on the phone anyways! I want more data for a reasonable price!"
"What? I can't talk and use facebook at the same time? That's unacceptable!"
"What? I can't talk and use facebook at the same time? That's unacceptable!"
Well, not every LTE phone. Just the ones that have a separate antennae for voice. The voice calls are not going over LTE.
The iPhone 5 WILL support simultaneous voice and data on Verizon when Verizon rolls out VoLTE (Voice over LTE) in early 2013. It just doesn't support it now.
The theory is that VoLTE was expected at least in major markets by now, which is why Apple didn't put the 3rd antennae in — the iPhone 5 already has two antennas to improve reception, and it would have had to add a third antenna just for Verizon and Sprint phones to give them simultaneous data and calls — which it won't need once VoLTE rolls out.
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With the surprises of the new Dock Connector, and inability for Verizon to transmit data+voice simultaneously, I honestly don't know if I want to get the new iPhone 5 anymore. I was super jazzed about the launch, and was willing to shell out $850 for an unsubsidized 64GB phone, but I don't think that's going to be happening until next year with the advent of 5S
The choice is a little disappointing but I am not sure that I wouldn't have made the same decision. Putting in a second radio would likely have had an adverse effect on battery life and would have taken up space on the logic board. This might have meant a smaller batter since Apple did not seem to want to make the phone wider.
If that's the case, then why is the AT&T one able to drive two radios (one LTE and one 3G), but not Verizon? Or will the AT&T one drop down to 3G for data when on a call?
The AT&T version also drops down to 3G during the call but GSM allows for simultaneous voice and data.
Think of it, there are only 3 wireless providers in the world that use CDMA, 2 of them here in the US and one in Japan. The whole world is on GSM. Why would Apple add another antenna in their base design for a tiny number of users?
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Australian government got rid of CDMA over a decade back. No country other than US and Japan uses CDMA.
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T-mobile is lighting up compatible 3G this year and by next year to AT&T compatible LTE.
Check this map of 3G out:
http://www.airportal.de/
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Australian government got rid of CDMA over a decade back. No country other than US and Japan uses CDMA.
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T-mobile is lighting up compatible 3G this year and by next year to AT&T compatible LTE.
Check this map of 3G out:
http://www.airportal.de/
Way to go Apple, behind the curve again.
Even on 3G...
http://youtu.be/tzTYVH2gLgM
Apple, HA...
Don't tell me it's the size issue, the Razr is extremely thin and it does simul voice/data on 4G just fine!
Even on 3G...
http://youtu.be/tzTYVH2gLgM
Apple, HA...
Don't tell me it's the size issue, the Razr is extremely thin and it does simul voice/data on 4G just fine!
I like the voice quality of CDMA more than GSM, but that's about it.
Short of that GSM > CDMA.
I dumped Sprint to get off CDMA, and went with AT&T to gain GSM.
Clearly it was the right move. The global standard is the better standard.
Short of that GSM > CDMA.
I dumped Sprint to get off CDMA, and went with AT&T to gain GSM.
Clearly it was the right move. The global standard is the better standard.
Verizon is a bunch of morons. I can't even be on a call and get my mobile boarding pass (which I normally do 2-3 times a week).
The ENTIRE reason I was going to buy the iPhone 5 was to get simultaneous voice and data. I am stuck on Verizon because that is who my company (unfortunately) has a contract with.
The ENTIRE reason I was going to buy the iPhone 5 was to get simultaneous voice and data. I am stuck on Verizon because that is who my company (unfortunately) has a contract with.
That's not true. LTE is an "all IP" network which means voice is sent over the same connection as data, since it is data.
My phone will do this and the battery life is still outstanding. The problem comes when you have to make design sacrifices because being a millimeter thinner is more important then packing a real battery in the device.
LTE VoIP is not being used by anyone yet. It's coming, but it is still going to be a long time until voice is moved over. The solution is either live with the limitation or buy an Android phone that supports this feature.
Yep and the new RAZR MAXX HD that will be released this fall is still quite thin and allows this along with battery life that the iPhone 5 would need two charges to match.
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well what about this?
Here someone at Verizon says they are rolling out VoLTE this year?
Is this the plan?
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizons-melone-there-no-rush-volte/2012-05-30
Here someone at Verizon says they are rolling out VoLTE this year?
Is this the plan?
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizons-melone-there-no-rush-volte/2012-05-30
Apparently the iPhone 5 only has a single radio in it which means it can't be connected to LTE and CDMA simultaneously.
Since the GSIII is a competitor of the iPhone 5, then it's perfectly valid to compare them. There are many reasons why some people can't just switch to ATT.
Did you read any of the stuff posted here? I have to question who the moron is here,the issue isn't Verizon its Apple. The Verizon network is capable of this and has been for a while.
It's funny reading some of these comments about voice and date. Verizon 3G uses two different band frequencies, 1 for voice and 1 for data, (this is why they are the best in voice and data, there's no interfering with each other). AT&T 3G uses the same band frequency for both voice and data (this is why they suck in voice quality, and data speeds to much interfering with other users).
The reason why some of Verizon's phones can do both at the same time is because the manufacture of the phone (which is not Android as many people think, Android is just a Operating System, not a phone) installed extra chips and extra antennas. Why do you think Samsung phone's keep getting BIGGER? Extra chips and extra antennas, means more POWER (bigger batteries) which mean MORE space, which comes down to BIGGER SCREENS to make all this fit and work!!!
Apple is Apple and if Apple doesn't want to add that extra antenna, then they don't have to! Thats why their phones are sleek and sexy and thin and shiny!
Apple ROCKS!
The reason why some of Verizon's phones can do both at the same time is because the manufacture of the phone (which is not Android as many people think, Android is just a Operating System, not a phone) installed extra chips and extra antennas. Why do you think Samsung phone's keep getting BIGGER? Extra chips and extra antennas, means more POWER (bigger batteries) which mean MORE space, which comes down to BIGGER SCREENS to make all this fit and work!!!
Apple is Apple and if Apple doesn't want to add that extra antenna, then they don't have to! Thats why their phones are sleek and sexy and thin and shiny!
Apple ROCKS!