Repeat after me...Landor is a BRANDING company. Apparently you are reading only some of the other post and not all of them. Or the original linked story for that matter.
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Repeat after me...Landor is a BRANDING company. Apparently you are reading only some of the other post and not all of them. Or the original linked story for that matter.
I'm in the same boat until next June. If Verizon gets the iPhone, I'm not sure that it would hold up any better with 1-3 million iPhones hogging is network. Even European networks which are bit better than US networks are feeling iPhone hurt. Love to see the ads though. AT&T and Verizon saying which network sucks the least when iPhones are in use.
How about "it was a stupid contract for both Apple and AT&T"? The number of subscribers who were changing carriers for the iPhone is close to insignificant now. As a consequence, AT&T is paying a premium to carry a phone that is no longer drawing new customers (until a year ago, the iPhone was drawing millions of people to AT&T from Verizon, etc.). And Apple was being forced to ignore 70% of the US market. It was in both parties' interests to shorten the contract.
Finally, I am not sure why people think Apple will ignoring doubling their sales (And destroying their competition. this is a sure way to kill any Android momentum) almost instantly because of minor technicalities like CDMA (this is not hard to do. Every other manufacturer has been doing it for years) or no simultaneous voice/data (big deal...)
I called it and on track
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9782404&#post9782404
This where I was the first post for the WWDC announcement. I said iPhone to Verizon. Take a look at the folks who quoted and doubted me. I am on track to owning you. I just need the official word.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9782404&#post9782404
This where I was the first post for the WWDC announcement. I said iPhone to Verizon. Take a look at the folks who quoted and doubted me. I am on track to owning you. I just need the official word.
It's anyones guess. If it is true, which, unless steve is posting under a pseudonym, no one here really knowsm then they might do it the same way as last time. I think they announced in Jan and released in june. With history as the only guide, then maybe announce in june, release in december. Again, I'm only guessing like everyone else.
Believe it when I see it ... or hear it from steve's ipad
I don't think you read the news. Verizon isn't the one that needs to worry...it's Apple if it stays exclusive to ATT.
I personally would not want a Verizon phone b/c I like the flexibility that SIMs offer. But I would love some competition b/c then maybe ATT would unlock the iPhone once the a customer's contract is in force like they do with every other phone they sell. Also they might get more lenient in letting people upgrade their phone annually at a reasonable price.
Being European I have zero interest in this, however.....
If it's not been mentioned already (I'm not trawling through all 4 pages so far) aside from the fact Apple's ad people are in-house, the one thing I can confirm which casts another major doubt on the credibility of this story is that Landor is NOT an ad agency.
They are a legendary brand ID consultancy, who designed the Fedex and 'eco' BP logos amongst many others. They used to be part of Y&R and now WPP since the merger almost a decade ago. They would have no part in any ad campaign beyond designing new branding. I suspect Verizon may well be tendering for a complete brand overhaul of their own brand ID and someone's seen a pitch concept which uses the iPhone (non-existent on that network) as a hook, drawn the wrong conclusion, and got a wee bit overexcited.
If this does go to an ad agency, it would go to Landor's siblings, one of the big WPP houses like JWT, O&M etc. on Madison Ave. The industry would have got wind of it a long time ago if true, NDA or no NDA, gossip travels fast.
Ergo, it's nonsense.
If it's not been mentioned already (I'm not trawling through all 4 pages so far) aside from the fact Apple's ad people are in-house, the one thing I can confirm which casts another major doubt on the credibility of this story is that Landor is NOT an ad agency.
They are a legendary brand ID consultancy, who designed the Fedex and 'eco' BP logos amongst many others. They used to be part of Y&R and now WPP since the merger almost a decade ago. They would have no part in any ad campaign beyond designing new branding. I suspect Verizon may well be tendering for a complete brand overhaul of their own brand ID and someone's seen a pitch concept which uses the iPhone (non-existent on that network) as a hook, drawn the wrong conclusion, and got a wee bit overexcited.
If this does go to an ad agency, it would go to Landor's siblings, one of the big WPP houses like JWT, O&M etc. on Madison Ave. The industry would have got wind of it a long time ago if true, NDA or no NDA, gossip travels fast.
Ergo, it's nonsense.
But what incentive does AT&T have to agree to reducing terms of the contract by 2 years? Apple can't pull out early and risk AT&T claiming foul. Things would get ugly.
All the noise coming from both Apple and AT&T sound as if things are fine, and neither one is looking to duck out of the deal. All these rumors being spread regarding Verizon have holes in them. The most substantive rumor, the iPad data rumor, turned out to be a big pile of dung. Verizon and the iPhone ain't happening, and I'll continue to say this until 2012. Apple seems in no hurry to leave them, and why should they? AT&T has bent over backwards for Apple, invested billions in their network to build out 3G and strengthen signal. I've definitely noticed a difference in my area.
Apple likes that. They like it when people make concessions for them. Verizon already told Apple to go jump once, and I highly doubt they'd make concessions for them a second time. Steve Jobs doesn't forget when someone turns him down - you can take that one to the bank.
This is what I am questioning about this article. For as long as I could remember, the only ads I have seen for the iPhone are from Apple themselves. Which brings me to my next question
EDIT - Nvm.
Not if you seen your phone sales flattening and see a new device on the horizon that will grab marketshare and revenue that you don't already have.
Hmmm...which is better. Holding onto those flat iPhone sales? Or getting the people with iPhones to buy data plans for their new toy too? Not to mention the people who don't have iPhones. If Apple sells millions and millions of iPads, it doesn't take long to see how this would benefit AT&T.
Re: Verizon iPhone
Don't believe everything on the internet
- Steve
Sent from my Verizon iPhone HD
seriously?
why do you people think Apple cares about "market share"? Apple is a computer company first and foremost...if they cared about market share why are PC's still outselling macs? Apple is a hardware company Android is a form of Software...if market share was an issue why isn't Apple concerned about lost market share in the computer hardware industry? what about the Flash debate? that's market share there and Apple has told flash to F@*k off several times already, despite the amount of people clamouring for flash....OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!!
why do you people think Apple cares about "market share"? Apple is a computer company first and foremost...if they cared about market share why are PC's still outselling macs? Apple is a hardware company Android is a form of Software...if market share was an issue why isn't Apple concerned about lost market share in the computer hardware industry? what about the Flash debate? that's market share there and Apple has told flash to F@*k off several times already, despite the amount of people clamouring for flash....OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!!
People. There is not a grain of truth in this. I couldn't possibly be more certain. It's just simply not true. People are gaming the stock prices. But believe what you want. It's a rumor site. 
Wow. Brother you don't have any idea how capitalism works, do you? Of course they care about market share. Why do you think they own 70%+ of the music download market and MP3 player market, have a tremendous market share in phones despite having only ONE phone, and the MacBook Pro is the single hottest selling laptop there is.
If you want to know why Jobs & Co are against Flash, here's a great article: The Real Reason Steve Jobs Hates Flash
Wow. Brother you don't have any idea how capitalism works, do you? Of course they care about market share. Why do you think they own 70%+ of the music download market and MP3 player market, have a tremendous market share in phones despite having only ONE phone, and the MacBook Pro is the single hottest selling laptop there is.
If you want to know why Jobs & Co are against Flash, here's a great article: The Real Reason Steve Jobs Hates Flash
I think you're confusing Apple being comfortable with their product lineup as being comfortable with their market share. They've said over and over that they sell premium products, but that doesn't mean that they don't want to sell more of them. They've been lowering prices on their notebooks and mobile products in an effort to grab more market share. I, along with many others, believe their mobile products division is a baited hook for their laptops and iMacs.
Their battle with flash is about being able to control their content, and revenue stream. Why let people play umpteen free flash games when you can force them to get them through the app store?
You can sync your iphone by bluetooth? I didn't know that. I wish they would add it to the ipod, I'm forever looking for that damn cable!!
Yes. Well aware of the phone technology issue. So while that would be a change for Apple, it's not anything different then what all the other phone makers do.. In order to grab more market share, they will HAVE to be on other carriers and other technologies. They can't stay on JUST GSM forever. (Well they could, but it wouldn't benefit them or their stockholders).
As for pretty clear....read the signs. AT&T promotes all the other phones they sell more now. They didn't used to do that. If you look at their most recent ads, the iPhone is like an afterthought thrown in there. If they really thought that their exclusivity wasn't ending, they #1 wouldn't have a good price on the iPad data plan which I believe factors into this, and #2, not be selling Android phones. Yet they are.
In a word.... stockholders.
If they didn't care about market share, they would be a little tiny company selling off their website. Not opening up iconic retail stores.
Blame Apple not ATT
Wishful Thinking Verzion Customers.... It's a RUMOR
If you are a hater of ATT , when and if the Iphone comes to Verizon, you will be a hater of Verzion as well. don't hate the messenger . Hate the maker of Iphone , that is who's to blame.We shall see , just how great the iphone works on CDMA... If and when it happens in 2012
Wishful Thinking Verzion Customers.... It's a RUMOR
If you are a hater of ATT , when and if the Iphone comes to Verizon, you will be a hater of Verzion as well. don't hate the messenger . Hate the maker of Iphone , that is who's to blame.We shall see , just how great the iphone works on CDMA... If and when it happens in 2012
Perhaps you're right, but personally I feel that the fact that the US still only has a single iPhone carrier is much more unbelievable than any of these rumors. Free market economy, eh? I mean WTF, all these European countries that give you the socialist willies have 2, 3, 4, sometimes even 5 iPhone carriers each... Single carrier exclusivity sounds like something out of 1970's Eastern Europe. "Comrades! Get your iPhones from the one, the only, Stalin Telekomski".People. There is not a grain of truth in this. I couldn't possibly be more certain. It's just simply not true. People are gaming the stock prices. But believe what you want. It's a rumor site.
[...]Historically, Crunchgear has been an unreliable source of Apple-related rumors, though leaked information through Verizon's ad agency seems plausible, especially given the number of Verizon rumors that have been circulating.
Article Link: Verizon iPhone Ad Campaign in Works?
Fake It 'till You Make It
Agreed. We don't know if there are new terms in place.
If Apple offered AT&T: $1Bn USD in cash, iPad data exclusivity for a year and lower its take from contracts for two years, AT&T would probably accept. Imagine 2 million people paying $175 in early termination fees to break contract and go to Verizon or T-Mobile. Nothing to sneeze at. Given that the iPhone is doing fairly well overseas, the notion of Apple breaking loose from the original AT&T deal is plausible. But still we have to wait and see.