I sorta think it was part of the plan, why not release a device on eedge when you know you can get new buyers with a 3g version a year later, and have those people on slow ass edge upgrade. If Apple was worried about people complaining, im sure they would've dropped ATT years ago.
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I sorta think it was part of the plan, why not release a device on eedge when you know you can get new buyers with a 3g version a year later, and have those people on slow ass edge upgrade. If Apple was worried about people complaining, im sure they would've dropped ATT years ago.
LOL... same here in Japan, though this is a weird kind of a Socialist Capitalism, you know.
Right. It isn't like Apple keeps touting their market share during every press event. Oh wait......
First of all i don't think iPhone sales have gone flat, and frankly, iPhone sales always decline as a product refresh approaches, its common sense, everyone knows iPhone's are released about the same time every year, if you wanted an iPhone would you buy one now, or wait a few months for a new one with better features to be released?
Regardless, Verizon won't get an iPhone this year.
Why would Verizon betray Google and allow the iPhone on their network?
I think Google will need to punish them. /smack
I think Google will need to punish them. /smack
Or there might have been milestones in the contract that allowed it to be redone. We do that all the time here. Failure to hit a milestone and our lawyers are knocking on the door to start the new paperwork. Could explain why apple gets it money in a different way now fro att. Before it was over the life of the contract. Now the filings look like a big payment at the time of sale.
You can't imagine AAPL is sitting on their laurels with Android-based phones market share growing. Couple that with the bad press AT&T brings in regards to their network performance and I'd say AAPL is extremely motivated to open up huge new sales channels and be in a stronger position to compete with Android devices.
They can see that the growth of Android is less about how great the devices are and more about people can't get iPhones on those networks.
Get the iPhone out there on as many networks as possible!
They can see that the growth of Android is less about how great the devices are and more about people can't get iPhones on those networks.
Get the iPhone out there on as many networks as possible!
Every time I read about this rumor it makes me shake my head. Why would Apple want to go to all the trouble to make a CDMA version of the phone? The technology has no future.
In Canada, both Telus and Bell went GSM to support the iPhone and well, enter the modern age. I just cannot see Apple going to all that trouble when CDMA has no future.
In Canada, both Telus and Bell went GSM to support the iPhone and well, enter the modern age. I just cannot see Apple going to all that trouble when CDMA has no future.
I don't understand why Apple fans wouldn't want the iPhone to be on every carrier possible. I have an ATT iPhone and I'm all for the phone being available to anyone who wants it. It's like some people here take it as a personal insult if Apple was on more than one carrier in the US. Gimme a break.
Verizon! YAY!
AT&T and Apple have a contract for 5 years. Apple doesn't have to give Verizon an "iPhone".
AT&T and Apple have a contract for 5 years. Apple doesn't have to give Verizon an "iPhone".
I don't think that they are talking about iPhone ads in the Apple tradition. Simply advertising that promotes that fact that the iPhone is now available on Verizon Wireless.
Not hyping features...but hyping availability.
Hickman
because most people are bitter and angry and not happy with what they have. The care more about what others have.
I agree with you, if I had an iphone and was happy with att, I would care less if sprint or verizon got it.
No one actually knows what the contract says, so there could be no change and still allow a Verizon phone.
Verizon has said that LTE will be available this fall to 130 million people. That sounds comparable to the population that ATT 3G covered when the iPhone 3G came out... which had to fall back on far worse EDGE.
Apple didn't actually make a GSM-only iPad. According to iFixit's teardown:
The radio board is separate from the logic board, and is plugged in via a socket. So is the SIM socket. The main manufacturing change for Verizon would be plugging in a different radio board.
Marketshare valuation is based on the product type. If you are deling in commodities where there is rigorous pricing structures, then marketshare is VERY important. If you are dealing with lower volume items with more flexibility in pricing then marketshare becomes gradually less important and margins become gradually more important.
It is a delicate balance depending on the product you are selling (commodities like music downloads or other items like electronics where each manufacturer can have distinct "value-added/perceived value" features).
It is every company's goal to have both high marketshare and high margins for a product, but it rarely happens (iPhones/iPods are examples). Most will try to balance the two to maximize profitability.
Hickman
That's why 75% of these stories are here. Page 2 has become front page.
When Google's purchase of AdMob gets approved, you can bet there will be a story here on it... solely because Apple tried to purchase them.
Bingo.
Not only that, but Verizon isn't listed under the ad agency in question clients.
That's true, but there are other issues with the cellphone market that separate it from, say, the computer market which is much more, er, utilitarian. The cellphone market is partly driven by superficial factors that make it more volatile... fashionability, "schoolyard gadget envy", things like that. It's sad, but the ability to say "look what I have!" is actually important to many cellphone buyers, and the iPhone's charm of novelty days have come to an end. "Hey, check out this new thing I have called iPhone, you can download apps and watch videos and stuff!". "Yaaaaaaawn." Yeah, it's the kind of customers you wish wouldn't exist, but they do. If they move on from the iPhone so that there's only those who buy iPhones for "mature" reasons left, it's not the end of the world but certainly enough to flatten the curve a bit. Nokia has been able to maintain their huge marketshare by spitting out more models than Nike and Adidas, to keep the fashion junkies, the gadget envy junkies and the easily bored buying more phones, but Apple offers a single model that gets updated once a year and has looked pretty much the same since day 1. That's not gonna fly as far as the fickle and the easily bored customer segment is concerned.
Even if this does happen this year (I don't think it will), I think these few things will happen:
1. AT&T iPhones will have privileges that Verizon iPhones do
not have.
2. Verizon iPhone customers will still complain.
3. Apple will charge Verizon a ludicrous amount for having the iPhone, an allow them no branding whatsoever.
I'm okay with all three of these.
1. AT&T iPhones will have privileges that Verizon iPhones do
not have.
2. Verizon iPhone customers will still complain.
3. Apple will charge Verizon a ludicrous amount for having the iPhone, an allow them no branding whatsoever.
I'm okay with all three of these.
A little research yields details
I did a little research using the links in the news item and found that the Landor agency is located in San Francisco. Perhaps there is something to this rumor after all?
Can anyone confirm who Apple uses as their Ad agency? Or If they have a connection to Landor as well?
I did a little research using the links in the news item and found that the Landor agency is located in San Francisco. Perhaps there is something to this rumor after all?
Can anyone confirm who Apple uses as their Ad agency? Or If they have a connection to Landor as well?
lol so you just need an official word to "owning" someone....casn I at least say don't brag about owning someone, when there's crap evidence to support your "owning", are you like 15 years old? Sillyness
Really? You still think AT&T is grabbing customers from other carriers just to get an iPhone? Most everyone that wants one and is willing to jump to AT&T for it have already done so. They have had three years. Their contracts with their carriers have already expired. They might have even renewed and gotten another phone. Quite possibly, an Android.
And if AT&T's iPhones sales aren't growing, and if they aren't still grabbing a ton of new customers from other carriers, then there's only one term to describe that.....flattening. Will they see a bump with the new version this summer? Sure. But it's doubtful that many customers have been sitting around on other carriers all this time waiting for a front facing camera and a higher resolution screen. Or a different look. So, for the most part AT&T will be selling these phones to existing customers upgrading. There's nothing wrong with that. And it's a good way to make money. But, that's not growing your market share either.
Which in this case may be a good thing. AT&T probably can't handle even MORE customers! They've had enough trouble as it is!