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Had to see this coming

ATT just raised the fee to break the contract from $150-$175 to $350. They knew. Sorry iPhone 4 buyers. You have to do your research. The signs were there.
 
So Verizon Wireless will just be getting iPhone 4 in January? And At&t will be getting iPhone 5? In June? So Verizon will be behind in launches??
 
This would be great if true. I really hope so!!!

With that said I'm still signing a new contract (When the White model becomes available) I see no major issues with AT&T and they ARE trying to improve here in NYC. It's not like I personally see any declines, I constantly see improvements with AT&T.

So hopefully people leave AT&T, even though alot of us won't. It's mainly people with no iPhone experience and the bandwagoners who really want the switch. And I wouldn't be surprised if alot of people wanting the switch only settled for Android (Maybe not the case) because the iPhone wasn't available.

People. . . it's a congested network (the phone itself) the same problem will most likely happen on Verizon. It's inevitable.

Lastly. . . January release will not happen. June would've made this insider info a little more believable. If Apple decides to go to Verizon it will have the same release as the next iPhone on AT&T. I can't see one carrier having a better one then another. People would go crazy.
 
ATT just raised the fee to break the contract from $150-$175 to $350. They knew. Sorry iPhone 4 buyers. You have to do your research. The signs were there.

I don't think the raised ETF points to that, but moving up everyone's upgrade does. Other carriers like Verizon have also raised their ETFs on smartphones recently. In combination they might serve as an indication, but the raised ETF alone is not evidence.
 
Some CDMA phones also support GSM in world phone versions. I wonder if the Verizon iPhone will retain the sim card slot even if it includes CDMA circuitry? Perhaps it will use that combined chip-set that was reported some months ago.
 
Just heard on Bloomberg that Iphone on Verizon Jan 2011. I guess this is the reason AT&T was offering early upgrades.

Someone please bookmark Amy Thomson's contact information. Come January, it'll be VERY handy. :D
 
ATT just raised the fee to break the contract from $150-$175 to $350. They knew. Sorry iPhone 4 buyers. You have to do your research. The signs were there.

Actually in the mobile world it's kind of Monkey see Monkey do, you're logic wouldn't even add up to anything.

Verizon raised there ETF so AT&T did the same.
AT&T rolled out new unlimited plans so Verizon did the same.

AT&T cut down their data and Verizon will do the same.

You have to play the same game as your best competitor, in AT&T's case it's Verizon.
 
Could make sense even if it doesn't follow Apple's product cycle. AT&T get the summer releases, Verizon gets the same model but later for the January winter release.
 
LOL

And in January of 2011, multiple sources will be reporting that iphone is coming to Verizon later in the year.

And in November 2011...

Seriously this is a constant rumor that gets repeated over and over. There were "credible" reports and rumors of this last year.

Until Apple announces it, all the rumors of Verizon iphone are just white noise.
 
at & t -antagonist of the average Joe cell phone customer

I agree with you... AT&T is getting an undeserving bad reputation. Once iPhone goes to Verizon, people will be complain about Verizon.


i could not agree with you more. at and t has been made into a media bad guy due to taking on apple as a partner to launch the iphone. Any other cellular company in the u.s. would have done it, except verizon, because they knew at the time that their antiquated radio wave or cdma system or what not , would not make the cut with the sophisticated phone that apple was endeavoring and continuously updating and still able to keep up.

if verizon had offered or is to offer the iphone, who is to say that it will not work multiple times worse than the iphone works on at&t.

I personally would stay on at and t for the customer service alone. they hire smart people and really do their best to accommodate , if you are polite.

I would say that you stick with what you know at this point and being from new york that is saying alot, because overall i like my cell coverage here in the city. it works. sure verizon has better voice quality on cellular, but again, who knows what might happen if verizon started servicing iphone, it might be a worse disaster than all of the u.s. backwoods, backroads, countryside dropped calls that seem to popping up all over the net and causing a media onslaught of bastard 3rd cousin stepchild but polite, at&t.
 
It will be hilarious to watch all those wanting the iPhone on Verizon bitching about the dropped calls and slow downloads when the network is overloaded...lol. Karma is a wonderful thing. :D
 
Yes. Makes perfect sense to launch in January, right after the big holiday season.

I feel bad for people waiting for Verizon iPhone.


As a MacRumors Analyst I have already CONFIRMED many times that no Verizon iPhone would show up in 2010.

Now it seems the other analysts making stuff up have pushed their predictions back to 2011.

I will take this as a sign that we will not see a Verizon iPhone device before Q2 of 2011.

Take that you other analysts.

I have never been wrong yet, all these other analysts are constantly wrong.
 
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And six months into their contract iPhone 5 is released.

No way. It will be the "iPhone 4s".:apple:

I meant 6 months into the Verizon contract.
 
Market share grab

Just heard on Bloomberg that Iphone on Verizon Jan 2011. I guess this is the reason AT&T was offering early upgrades.

Personally, I can't believe that Apple wouldn't launch with a new carrier for the Holiday season. Android is gobbling up market share at a key point of market growth and Apple's missing a great chance to close that window for them. I got to play with an Evo the other day and it was pretty impressive. With the X getting great reviews and a slew of other phones debuting, it just doesn't make sense to let Android continue to gain momentum uncontested on key carriers, even if it costs them some margin or some kind of early termination fee to ATT.
 
Dropped calls

People, we haven't even begun to experience drop calls. Yes, they are annoying, usually caused by insufficient coverage or the imbalance of the load as towers hand off to each other (aka M stands for mobile).

But if the scientists are right, we're in for some serious issues REALLY SOON.

NASA warns of solar flares
 
Are you aware that the majority of the world is on GSM and HSPA/HSUPA and that that the CDMA carriers of your neighbours to the north abandoned CDMA in favour of HSPA/HSUPA?

If (and that is a big if) Apple was going to create a phone that worked on CDMA networks, it would be a dual radio phone that supported both SIM based GSM HSPA/HSUPA networks as well as CDMA2000 and CDMA with a SIM.

There are some Asian markets which are still mainly on CDMA but not CDMA2000. Rather, they are on a variant that actually uses SIM cards called CSIM. I just don't see Apple producing a phone just for all of the CDMA markets let alone Verizon in the US especially this close following the launch of the iPhone 4 in so many countries.

Verizon is way too small and the number of subscribers that would buy an iPhone on Verizon is even smaller.
Yes, I am quite aware that Canada (and many other markets) abandoned CDMA. However, some of those Asian markets have a large number of subscribers. I don't know all of the differences between various CDMA implementations around the world, but again, if enough CDMA-based mobile operators told Apple that they would be willing to carry a CDMA-based phone, I think Apple would strongly look at the potential.

Personally, I am skeptical that there will ever be a CDMA-based iPhone but these rumors persist nonetheless and I find it amusing to throw out tantalizing "what-if" scenarios to fellow MacRumors readers.

After all, this is a rumor site.

:p
 
Ok, why a Verizon iPhone MAKES since.

1. Apple vs. Google:

Android is gaining market share every day, as it seems to be on many networks and many phones. Apple has Google rivalry everyone knows it, Apple would love to shut them down.

2. More Sales:

Survey's state that 17% of VZW customers are WAITING on an iPhone. Ok add lets say 5% of customers switching back to VZW from ATT and another 2% of people who walk in a VZW store and say "Pretty!" Yes the last two figures are mere estimates. That comes to 24% of VZW. Ok VZW has around 70 million customers, so thats 16.8 million iPhones! Wow, I think Apple would like that.

Why a VZW iPhone doesn't make since, especially in January.

1. Out of the product cycle

2. Apple may not want to redesign for CDMA only, but could possibly make a hybrid type phone.

Either way this thread is pointless, its not here yet and won't be here any time soon. I agree all carrier sucks maybe Obama can help us there. Anyways I'm glad that NYC (4 of 300 Million) is getting improved networks, the rest of the country is waiting.
 
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