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Verizon Media Event Today, iPhone Expected

tarproductions said:
The voice and data feature of ATT's network is what will (potentially) keep me on their network. ATT contract ended two weeks ago.
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Having a reliable voice network that never drops calls will keep me on Verizon. I currently have a Droid 2, but am open to looking into a Verizon iPhone when my contract ends next fall. By then we should have an iPhone 5 and a whole bunch of new Android handsets. The iPhone moving to Verizon will be a win-win for everyone except maybe BlackBerry. I think we are soon moving to a two platform smartphone future. Android versus iOS.

maverikv said:
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I would be VERY surprised if AT&T keeps 5% of it's NYC iPhone customers. Service here is absolutely abysmal. What good is simultaneous voice and data if you can't get either of them?
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I agree. A phone is not a phone if it can't make and receive phone calls with a high percentage of reliability.
 
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Slim02 said:
mrkramer said:
I doubt it, they only work together on price when it hurts the consumer. My guess is Verizon offers unlimited data for a few months to get people to switch back and then changes their plans to match ATT.
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Really? Because Verizon been having unlimited date for smart phones for years.. Just because they get the iPhone that will not change....


tarproductions said:
The voice and data feature of ATT's network is what will (potentially) keep me on their network. ATT contract ended two weeks ago.
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Why and who really uses both Voice and data at the same time?.. I have never use it and I see it as being rude if you are checking your email or looking at some thing that has nothing to do with the person you are talking to..
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People like me who are on a conference call or people that while talking to someone need to look up info via google or get other things on the Internet. I do it quite a bit while I'm on my Bluetooth.
 
nelmat said:
Well, Europe - with a larger population and larger land mass than the USA - seems to cope ok as well. The USA do seem very behind in terms of telco and broadcast infrastructure.
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Is that really fair? Europe is a continent made up of ~50 countries, whereas the United Staes is one and only part of North America. If you want to lump, why not look at North America (Canada + USA) in which case the land area is much more then little ol' Europe.

Also, you make not mention of population density. The United Staes has ~300,000,000 million in 3.74 million square miles whereas Europe has ~730,000,000 in 3.93 million square miles. Its simply harder to build out.

For example I own 160 acres of land (aka a Quarter Section). In the middle is my house on a dead end road. My telco has to run over a kilometer of line (and multiple repeaters) to reach me and only me. Add to this the fees they have to pay the power company to use their poles. Long story short, it cost them a lot more to give me service then it does to others.

While I am atypical, the point is that there are a lot more people like me in the US then there are in others location (e.g. Asia or Europe).
 
Mistrblank said:
Verizon just dumped their unlimited for tiered structures. I don't think they would plan on backpedaling that act any time soon, even if it is for the iPhone.
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No they didn't. They still have unlimited plans for smartphones. There is a lower prices tier, but the unlimited is there there.
 
gnasher729 said:
T-Mobile in the UK apparently has just changed their definition of "unlimited" from "unlimited as long as you don't use more than 3 GB per month" to "unlimited as long as you don't use more than 500 MB per month".

So I would first want to read the fineprint. And even that won't help you because the fineprint will just contain vague language that can mean anything.
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Nope. Happy tmobile customer here. All they've done is clarify their fair use policy on unlimited, saying that five hundred meg a day is considered 'fair use' on their unlimited plan.
 
I'll go with the first one to provide Unlimited Data with Free Tethering.
It's time for competition, so regardless how amazing their networks are, price will be a deciding factor as well.
 
maverikv said:
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I would be VERY surprised if AT&T keeps 5% of it's NYC iPhone customers. Service here is absolutely abysmal. What good is simultaneous voice and data if you can't get either of them?
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How was AT&T pre iPhone in NYC?
 
I have no intention of switching to Verizon. I've been VERY happy with AT&T's service in my area. However... If Verizon offers unlimited data WITH tethering for $50 per month or less, I will almost certainly switch. The one thing that really pisses me off about AT&T is that when they finally offered legal tethering, they simultaneously forced everyone onto limited data plans. A real douchebag move.

AT&T better look carefully at what Verizon is offering plan and price wise. If they don't match it, even those of us that are happy with AT&T might decide to switch.

Mark
 
I'm going to laugh if they announce NOTHING about the iPhone.. and just talk about LTE.

iPhone is expected.. so I'm sure they will talk about it. But it would be funny. hha.
 
Amazing Iceman said:
I'll go with the first one to provide Unlimited Data with Free Tethering.
It's time for competition, so regardless how amazing their networks are, price will be a deciding factor as well.
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Definitely, competition is great for the consumer. I have about 6 months left on contract. As of now AT&T is where I need to be because the whole plan is cheaper and I get good service. In 6 months when contract is over I will re-evaluate. I only see good things for the consumers in both companies.
 
Full of Win said:
Is that really fair? Europe is a continent made up of ~50 countries, whereas the United Staes is one and only part of North America. If you want to lump, why not look at North America (Canada + USA) in which case the land area is much more then little ol' Europe.

Also, you make not mention of population density. The United Staes has ~300,000,000 million in 3.74 million square miles whereas Europe has ~730,000,000 in 3.93 million square miles. Its simply harder to build out.

For example I own 160 acres of land (aka a Quarter Section). In the middle is my house on a dead end road. My telco has to run over a kilometer of line (and multiple repeaters) to reach me and only me. Add to this the fees they have to pay the power company to use their poles. Long story short, it cost them a lot more to give me service then it does to others.

While I am atypical, the point is that there are a lot more people like me in the US then there are in others location (e.g. Asia or Europe).
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Good point, except for one.

I only know of one person in my region who has 160 or more acres and that person is a centimillionaire, and not someone I think there are a lot of.

If we had "a lot" of people with 160 acres, we may just have to have a planet the size of Jupiter.

Just how many people do you think own 160 acres? or even 16 acres? Land is mighty expensive in the developed world. But I don't know if you are saying that, or that there are simply more people who own large plots of land in the USA vs anywhere else.
 
Full of Win said:
Is that really fair? Europe is a continent made up of ~50 countries, whereas the United Staes is one and only part of North America. If you want to lump, why not look at North America (Canada + USA) in which case the land area is much more then little ol' Europe.

Also, you make not mention of population density. The United Staes has ~300,000,000 million in 3.74 million square miles whereas Europe has ~730,000,000 in 3.93 million square miles. Its simply harder to build out.

For example I own 160 acres of land (aka a Quarter Section). In the middle is my house on a dead end road. My telco has to run over a kilometer of line (and multiple repeaters) to reach me and only me. Add to this the fees they have to pay the power company to use their poles. Long story short, it cost them a lot more to give me service then it does to others.

While I am atypical, the point is that there are a lot more people like me in the US then there are in others location (e.g. Asia or Europe).
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I think you could do with travelling more, there are plenty of isolated regions across Europe, from Scotland and cornwall through the French countryside, Russia and beyond. There is more 3G coverage, more full hd television broadcasting and faster broadband than in the us. The USA is falling behind because of your telco companies and government restriction. There's no arguing with that.
 
so everyone that wants the unlimited data, lets say your downloading a large file, say 20 mb and a call comes in, you lost your data connection and have to start over. Thats gonna suck.

(happens on my verizon blackberry that I have tethered)
 
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People like me who are on a conference call or people that while talking to someone need to look up info via google or get other things on the Internet. I do it quite a bit while I'm on my Bluetooth.
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If that is most important to you then stay with AT&T. No one says that you need to leave AT&T if you are happy with their service. The people that will leave AT&T are the people who are dropping calls left and right and can't get a reliable connection. Having simultaneous voice and data doesn't matter if it doesn't work in the first place. This was never a huge issue until AT&T and Apple made it one. Now you find a lot of AT&T/Apple fans around here who tell you that feature is more important then having a reliable network that just works. I'd say someone did some pretty good marketing with that one!

Remember there are still a lot of AT&T customers that are still on the EDGE network. Ask how that simultaneous voice and data is working for them?
 
ghostlyorb said:
I'm going to laugh if they announce NOTHING about the iPhone.. and just talk about LTE.

iPhone is expected.. so I'm sure they will talk about it. But it would be funny. hha.
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I'm pretty sure Verizon would be in a heap of **** if this wasn't about the iPhone. They would have been total dumbasses to not stop this speculation at this point in the game if it was something totally unrelated.
 
Amazing Iceman said:
I'll go with the first one to provide Unlimited Data with Free Tethering.
It's time for competition, so regardless how amazing their networks are, price will be a deciding factor as well.
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Verizon has this with their Palm devices, not that anyone is going to want to go to them! Unlimited Data and 5GB Mobile Hot Spot included free as part of the data package with the phone.
 
xdhd350 said:
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I use it all the time, much in the same manner you spoke of. It's not rude to the caller when you're looking up something for their benefit in real time. As long as you use speakerphone or earbuds, you can maintain the conversation whilst you're looking stuff up.

I'm wondering if the Verizon phone will have LTE capability and will make use of it where available for simultaneous voice/data. I don't see that as being any different to my 3G rolling back to EDGE when 3G isn't available.

We'll know soon enough. :D
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I think some of you guys are confuswed about Verizon...

1. you can check your email and talk at the same time... you just won't receive "NEW" e-mails.

2. you can check your address book and talk at the same time.

3. Only thing with the current network you can not do on Verizon is recieve new data while talking on the phone..

Again this feature is nice but not a must have at least to me.
 
Slim02 said:
Really? Because Verizon been having unlimited date for smart phones for years.. Just because they get the iPhone that will not change....





Why and who really uses both Voice and data at the same time?.. I have never use it and I see it as being rude if you are checking your email or looking at some thing that has nothing to do with the person you are talking to..
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I use this feature regularly. Maybe 2-3 times a week. That doesn't seem like much but it seems that when I use this feature it's very important. For instance, giving my wife directions out of a bad neighborhood by talking to her and using Google maps at the same time. Reading my notes and e-mails from my iphone while on a teleconference for work. In the end it's useful enough that I won't be switching until Verizon's network allows it.
 
markie said:
P.S. Again... if you want to see how much new UMTS coverage AT&T is adding as a result of buying divested Alltel assets, check out this page:

http://www.att.com/network/?

Click "coverage" at the bottom. See all that light blue future coverage (future being defined as by March 31, but my market is coming in February)? Most (but not all) of that is their overbuild of Alltel markets like mine. I'm in Montana. The reason for the hole in Montana in the northeast is that Verizon got to keep that market :) Oh well, it's rural wasteland nobody goes to.

Then, look at all the blue in northeast Nevada - that's an Alltel divested market that was converted a couple months ago. A friend there told me the speeds are around 4mbps down/1mbps up consistently and the coverage is much better than Alltel was. And a free Samsung Captivate with no contract. Doesn't get any better than that! Okay, a free iPhone 4, but that ain't gonna happen.

I <3 AT&T these days. :)
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thanks for the link. im pretty happy that AT&T is gonna make strides on the 3g front. IM HOPING it just doesnt stop there and that eventually we'll catch up to verizons 3g footprint.

i hope.

lets not get stagnant att!
 
Slim02 said:
Why and who really uses both Voice and data at the same time?.. I have never use it and I see it as being rude if you are checking your email or looking at some thing that has nothing to do with the person you are talking to..
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I use it all the time with the speaker phone to answer questions I'm asked on the phone. From can you email the kids school lunch menu to, what is the phone number for x companys support line. It's very useful.

Maps is useful as well, usually about 1/2 way through someone giving me directions, I stop them because I've got the route displayed on my map app.
 
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