For now they are still the top 2 providers.
That doesn't mean it cannot change in the near future right?
Whether you like to admit it or not they are helping you even if you're on AT&T or any other provider in the US.
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For now they are still the top 2 providers.
That doesn't mean it cannot change in the near future right?
Whether you like to admit it or not they are helping you even if you're on AT&T or any other provider in the US.
I went to Buffalo for a bit and it was great actually in the inner city. Averaged 60mbps. If you stay up in the cities and near the great lakes you should be fine. However if you go south into the sticks, anywhere near the i86, through like Arcade, it's completely dead by there and totally dead almost anywhere south of there. Beyond Arcade there's service in Olean, Salamanca, and Wellsville. They were EDGE to LTE conversions, so it's EDGE and band 2 5x5 LTE on really old antennas so speeds aren't stellar (average 5-10mbps) and if your signal isn't fantastic (which can happen a lot, it dies QUICK in buildings too) it very quickly becomes 1mbps or lower. Hornell has service, too. That's a band 12 area with HSPA+ underneath. So if your iPhone is older than a 6S or SE you will have slower and much more spotty "4G" at the top of your screen. That's about all you'll see in the Southern Tier for service. It's bad here. I'd advise staying up in the cities and along the Great Lakes.
This is hilarious. How are they helping me exactly?
It would cost me more to switch to T-Mobile and what do I get in return? worse coverage and reliability. No thanks.
You seem a lot smarter than that not to realize how all these moves affect everyone that uses wireless service in the US.
Not to switch to Tmobile or what it would cost you or about coverage but the competition that will make your carrier of choice stay competitive and offer better options and pricing to its customers than it did before.
Still hard to understand or you want it broken down even more?
Again, you said they are helping me, yet you fail to provide any evidence to back that up.
My plan didn't magically become cheaper because T-Mobile decided to sucker people onto their substandard network.
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Lol
You still dont get it or just like to act that you dont?
Evidence to back it up? Look around all the new deals, better options, more data or double the data offers and cheaper prices all of a sudden available. You dont agree that competition is good or you would rather keep seeing carriers making billions in profits and overage fees and offer you very little choices and expensive plans?
Your carrier and every carrier in the US has been making drastic changes since Tmobile started making all the uncarrier changes.
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I currently have the Verizon More Everything 6GB Plan for $60/Month, and I really don't see a need to switch into the New Verizon Plan. The 4GB Plan is $50, and the 8GB plan is $70.
The Carryover data isn't that big a deal, as the most carryover months you could have would only be 6.
So Verizon's new plan does nothing for me personally, and I may end up switching over to T-Mobile, as their Rollover Plan is much better. I also understand I can use my current iPhone 6 on the T-Mobile network.
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The Carryover data isn't that big a deal, as the most carryover months you could have would only be 6.
So Verizon's new plan does nothing for me personally, and I may end up switching over to T-Mobile, as their Rollover Plan is much better. I also understand I can use my current iPhone 6 on the T-Mobile network.
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Verizon always comes up with some gimmick to make you think they really care about not bilking you. They don't. If it weren't for T-mobile, Verizon would be openly screwing the pooch at your house by now.
Obviously I don't have access to Verizon internal billing.
But it's pretty obvious they know people aren't really going over their data allotment.
But Verizon still trying to figure out more gimmicks to increase the total bill of customers.
Last August 2015 they raised the per line "access fee" from $15 to $20. Assuming 4 lines in a family. That's a defacto $20/month increase.
Now the most popular 18gb/$100 family data share is being moved to $110/24gb. (Keep in mind verizon was giving 2gb per line data bonus for "new lines transferred in"
Saying that. Most people probably weren't using 18gb on the $100 data plan. Verizon knows that. By they claim to give people more 6gb for another $10.
But people don't want it. They want lower bills. They don't want to be paying what amounts to $30/month in less than 12 months ($20 for access fee increase assuming 4 lines plus the $10 extra for the 24gb data).
But it's pretty obvious they know people aren't really going over their data allotment.
But Verizon still trying to figure out more gimmicks to increase the total bill of customers.
Last August 2015 they raised the per line "access fee" from $15 to $20. Assuming 4 lines in a family. That's a defacto $20/month increase.
Now the most popular 18gb/$100 family data share is being moved to $110/24gb. (Keep in mind verizon was giving 2gb per line data bonus for "new lines transferred in"
Saying that. Most people probably weren't using 18gb on the $100 data plan. Verizon knows that. By they claim to give people more 6gb for another $10.
But people don't want it. They want lower bills. They don't want to be paying what amounts to $30/month in less than 12 months ($20 for access fee increase assuming 4 lines plus the $10 extra for the 24gb data).
Exactly.
Verizon's not giving anyone anything except more money to their executives, which is tied to stock price performance.
Not that it matters, but that's not what "screw the pooch means." Screwing one's spouse? Perhaps, but "screw the pooch" means to make a mistake. Goes back to the NASA Mercury program and was borrowed from "**** the dog" which was from Jack Conroy’s 1935 novel A World to Win.
Just an FYI. Carry on.
New definition: Verizon distracting customer with new marketing gimmick while plugging customer's brown sausage maker in delight.
I use less than 1 Gb per month, and Verizon wants to allow me to upgrade to 2 GB for $5 bucks more. I'm not that stupid to fall for this, specially if I continue to use less than 1 GB per month.
Yes, pretty much in simple words what the poster said above has been going on since forever with Verizon
They are milking you dry but try to act like they're giving you a kiss or a peck but in reality they are boinking you with no lube at all
And in return they try to make you feel like you need them and it's either them or nothing.
So wouldn't a lot of those people move to the slightly cheaper 16 GB plan now and save some money?
That's the thing. Verizon has internal data. But it's pretty reasonable to assume the "sweet" spot these days is between 18-20gb of data for a family
Look at Verizon plan. $90/16gb. And than $110/24gb.
So the old plan was 18gb/$100.
Why not keep the 18gb/$100 with carry over? And safety mode?
It's pretty simple. You lose 2gb full speed data trying to save $10.
And it costs $25 more to jump to from 24gb to 30gb of data at $135??
Ever Tom dick and Harry can see Verizon is focusing on that magic $100 mark. It's $20 to get 8gb extra from 90-110. But it costs $25 more to get an extra 6gb?
ATT at least upped their 10gb to 15gb/$100 and didn't change the prices. Now it's pretty easy to ask for 20gb/$100. Plus their $15 access hasn't changed
Verizon has. It's gone from 15 to $20 access fee.
And I have both Verizon and ATT service.
Only time will tell what carriers will do.
We are reaching a boiling point similar to the cable industry trying to push cable/internet/tv where in year 2000 with the AOL/time warner disastrous merger where they blantanly said they wanted all households to pay $150-200 a month.
Same is happening in cellular industry. Once wireless bills (assuming 4-5 lines) were approaching $250-300 a month). Consumers started looking elsewhere. Know they got rid of subsidies. The phone bills look cheaper. But it's still approaching $200/month WITHOUT getting the subsidy. Which means consumers are paying even more for their service than they were before and getting less cause then used to get unlimited data.
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The only thing the carriers will continue to do is raise prices, and unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about it.
There may be a certain percentage that can switch to the lower cost carriers that provide coverage in their specific areas, but for the most part, consumers want the best coverage. They also know most consumers don't want to bounce from plan to plan.
They basically have us over a barrel, and they know it.
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I have stock with both att and Verizon (pretty good paying dividends stocks by the way). So I follow the industry closely.
Verizon eliminated reporting "revenues per line" 3 or so years ago. Cause they were dipping below $50/line. (Example: $250/5 lines equals $50/line). Verizon and other carriers in the early 2000s/-2010 were mainly growing by adding non profitable 9.99 add a lines to "grow the subscribers". Obviously lines 2-5 drive down the revenues per line report. Especially with $400-450 a line subsidy with lines 2-5. Savvy customers would drive add a line (buy iPhone for $199 and get the subsidy and just put a flip phone on that line and avoid the data plan. Verizon wouldn't make any money.
Verizon than started mandating forced data plans on subsidized lines regardless if smartphone was used or not to combat that tactic.
Now the switch to shared data. And nickel and diming a $5 price increase PER LINE here and here. It all adds up.
$50/line is the key. Verizon knows that. Americans psychologically know that. What do we get for $50/line?
Great insight. Thanks for sharing.
That's what myself and the wife pay w/VZW ($50 per line). I'm on iPhone 6 and she an SE. We have unlimited talk +text and share 2-3GB. Our bill is around $100/month.
I know T-Mobile doesn't match rural coverage like VZW does but I'm glad to only pay $50 per line for unlimited with T-Mobile plus 6 gigs with rollover for my iPad for $25 a month. I don't miss paying an arm and a leg with both AT&T and Verizon. T-Mobile may not work for everyone but if there's coverage where you need and want it, why not?? Since both my fiancé and I have band 12 devices, we never lose service, and we've had T-Mobile for a few months now. Even at a mud bog in the middle of nowhere, we had 2 bars of band 12 LTE, along with VZW. AT&T and Sprint had nothing.
Sorry to derail the thread (if I did) but aneftp brought up some very good points. I couldn't take spending an arm and a leg for limited data. I thought VZW and AT&T were neck and neck with pricing but it seems like VZW is slightly more expensive.
Sorry to derail the thread (if I did) but aneftp brought up some very good points. I couldn't take spending an arm and a leg for limited data. I thought VZW and AT&T were neck and neck with pricing but it seems like VZW is slightly more expensive.
May be, but like I've said before, Sprint's coverage and customer service are a joke & TMO's coverage is a joke here. That leaves me with Ma Bell & Big Red.
If we switched to ATT, it would be $115/mo BEFORE taxes and fees:
- 2GB - $30
- Line 1 - $25
- Line 2 - $25
- iPhone 6S - $22
- iPhone SE - $14
- Taxes & fees - $16
- TOTAL AT&T BILL --> $130
- 2 lines sharing 2GB of data - $80/mo.
- iPhone 6S - $27/mo.
- iPhone SE - $17/mo.
- Taxes & fees - $17/mo
- T-MOBILE TOTAL = $141/mo.
- CURRENT TOTAL VZW BILL --> $105
Each to his own. Those are my choices and this is what works for me. I'm always open and looking for more and better choices, but this is the best option for me, and suits my family's needs.
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I hear you, gotta go for what works out.
I'm just glad I don't have to pay those prices any more
Yeah, I wish I had the choice. Making the best with what I've got though.I hear you, gotta go for what works out.
I'm just glad I don't have to pay those prices any more
Probably going to start saving up soon to buy phones outright and go with a VZW MVNO.