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I kept hearing about how cheaper Tmobile is but after crunching numbers, tmobile is the same or worse than my current AT&T grandfather unlimited plan.

I have two iphones on AT&T:
line one has unlimited data (22GB before throttled) and other has 3GB, unlimited voice, and no text.
total cost without tax/fee: $128.91 - $17.85 (21% discount) = $111.06



Comparable plan on Tmobile: line 1 has unlimited data, and line 2 has 2GB of data
total cost without tax/fee: $125

AT&T costs $3 more (without discount) but line 2 has 1GB more data and better coverage while Tmobile has unlimited text.

Am I missing something here?

So you're comparing a plan with no texting to one with unlimited texting.
Add unlimited text to that AT&T plan and now come up with a real comparison.
Unless you just want to make yourself feel like you're getting a good deal with att.
Never mind the binge on and personal hotspot that you don't have on the unlimited AT&T data plan line. Or the unlimited international texting and data that you don't get with AT&T.
 
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So you're comparing a plan with no texting to one with unlimited texting.
Add unlimited text to that AT&T plan and now come up with a real comparison.
Unless you just want to make yourself feel like you're getting a good deal with att.
Never mind the binge on and personal hotspot that you don't have on the unlimited AT&T data plan line. Or the unlimited international texting and data that you don't get with AT&T.
Its tough to compare apples to bananas, but I think he's saying he has a plan that works for him and is cheaper than what you can get at tmobile today.

I have 4 lines of grandfathered UDP on VZW. I could use 1TB and not get throttled, other than being an internet data hog and maybe have my service cut off for TOS violations, and say it's a better plan than tmobile for that reason. (Although honestly I don't know how I'd use that much data if I didn't use a streaming service, lol that is part of tmo binge-on.)
 
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Its tough to compare apples to bananas, but I think he's saying he has a plan that works for him and is cheaper than what you can get at tmobile today.

I have 4 lines of grandfathered UDP on VZW. I could use 1TB and not get throttled, other than being an internet data hog and maybe have my service cut off for TOS violations, and say it's a better plan than tmobile for that reason. (Although honestly I don't know how I'd use that much data if I didn't use a streaming service, lol that is part of tmo binge-on.)

It's not really a comparison if you're comparing unlike things.
If that line sends or receives any texts it gets charged 20 cents each. Also his 3gb data line will get overages. None of the tmobile plans get any overages. Ever.
Also tmobile has personal hotspot that he doesn't get. And tmobile has a lot more international free services and binge on that does streaming radio and video without counting any of that data against your plan.
If he's happy with it that's great but that is not a real comparison that's all;)
 
So you're comparing a plan with no texting to one with unlimited texting.
Add unlimited text to that AT&T plan and now come up with a real comparison.
Unless you just want to make yourself feel like you're getting a good deal with att.
Never mind the binge on and personal hotspot that you don't have on the unlimited AT&T data plan line. Or the unlimited international texting and data that you don't get with AT&T.

what is with the personal attack? I compared those two plans since that is the most comparable plan they got. and I obviously stated it clearly that AT&T has no text.

I don't care much about Bing but did not know about hotspot from tmobile plan price page. International is mainly for those who travel alot, which I don't.
 
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what is with the personal attack? I compared those two plans since that is the most comparable plan they got. and I obviously stated it clearly that AT&T has no text.

I don't care much about Bing but did not know about hotspot from tmobile plan price page. International is mainly for those who travel alot, which I don't.

Nothing personal, just stating the obvious.
Comparison was inaccurate and in the end you came up with the pricing that T Mobile is just $3 cheaper on an AT&T plan that did not have texting or was pay as you go for text.
Binge on is great and you can turn it on and off anytime. Its nice to be able to stream all day for free without having it count towards you data. Its a hard feature to ignore or act like its no big deal.
I dont travel a lot either, about once a year and it's nice not having to pay an arm a leg to a carrier for international calling, texting and data.
Whatever you pick is your choice but clearly when it comes to giving more to their customers and not nickel and diming them with bad plans Tmobile currently is the winner.
 
Nothing personal, just stating the obvious.
Comparison was inaccurate and in the end you came up with the pricing that T Mobile is just $3 cheaper on an AT&T plan that did not have texting or was pay as you go for text.
Binge on is great and you can turn it on and off anytime. Its nice to be able to stream all day for free without having it count towards you data. Its a hard feature to ignore or act like its no big deal.
I dont travel a lot either, about once a year and it's nice not having to pay an arm a leg to a carrier for international calling, texting and data.
Whatever you pick is your choice but clearly when it comes to giving more to their customers and not nickel and diming them with bad plans Tmobile currently is the winner.

if you care for all of the bells and whistle, then Tmobile is cheaper. but if all you need are voice, data, and coverage, then tmobile is not cheaper at all, at least not the hype that I keep hearing about.
 
if you care for all of the bells and whistle, then Tmobile is cheaper. but if all you need are voice, data, and coverage, then tmobile is not cheaper at all, at least not the hype that I keep hearing about.

Coverage is great for me. And all the additional perks make it even better.
If you believe the hype that only AT&T and Verizon get coverage and thus you have to keep paying their expensive prices and play their anti consumer games then go for it.
I enjoy great coverage and awesome prices.
 
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Coverage is great for me. And all the additional perks make it even better.
If you believe the hype that only AT&T and Verizon get coverage and thus you have to keep paying their expensive prices and play their anti consumer games then go for it.
I enjoy great coverage and awesome prices.
I'm curious if those who are commenting about T-Mobile's coverage as being poor have used it recently on a device that supports band 12? From what I've heard they've made a lot of progress.
 
I'm curious if those who are commenting about T-Mobile's coverage as being poor have used it recently on a device that supports band 12? From what I've heard they've made a lot of progress.

None of my devices on my 6 line family plan support band 12 and coverage is solid.
You dont need a band 12 device to get good service on Tmobile no matter what some would like you to think.
 
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None of my devices on my 6 line family plan support band 12 and coverage is solid.
You dont need a band 12 device to get good service on Tmobile no matter what some would like you to think.
Nice, I remember using T-Mobile on a Verizon 5S when the 5S was the latest iPhone. I had no issues where I lived but eventually just stayed with Verizon as it would've cost a lot to switch 3 additional phones over to T-Mobile. T-Mobile is definitely impressing me that's for sure.
 
None of my devices on my 6 line family plan support band 12 and coverage is solid.
You dont need a band 12 device to get good service on Tmobile no matter what some would like you to think.
True you don't need it, but if you live in a "fair" coverage area or frequently find yourself inside building with poor coverage, band 12 definitely helps. Plus you can get carrier aggregation between the two bands.
 
True you don't need it, but if you live in a "fair" coverage area or frequently find yourself inside building with poor coverage, band 12 definitely helps. Plus you can get carrier aggregation between the two bands.

I hear you, it's a good thing to have available but so far for me it's not a deal breaker.
When I get the next iphone it will probably have band 12 and I will make a comparison to see if it's a big difference or not.
 
Wow, I didn't know that. That was one of the reasons why we stay with Verizon due to the number of lines we have on the plan. Come out to be about $30 a pop with 30GB to share.
Just paid off another device and the m2m discount was automagically put back. I was worried for a little there cuz I didn't wanna fight with them for discount. Dealing with Verizon rep can be hit-or-miss at times.
 
https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wirel...s-pointing-out-new-wireless-plans-stink.shtml

So wait, let me get this straight. If I don't use X data, it gets "carried over" but I can't use it until I burn through my next month's allotment? lol?

So if I end up using any rollover, I'm guaranteeing I won't have any rollover data for the next month because it only lasts one month, and to use it, I have to use all my data for that month anyway.

Wow. Imo that's low.
 
https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wirel...s-pointing-out-new-wireless-plans-stink.shtml

So wait, let me get this straight. If I don't use X data, it gets "carried over" but I can't use it until I burn through my next month's allotment? lol?

So if I end up using any rollover, I'm guaranteeing I won't have any rollover data for the next month because it only lasts one month, and to use it, I have to use all my data for that month anyway.

Wow. Imo that's low.
On the other hand, unlike what the article seems to imply about most implementations of rollover data working differently, AT&T's rollover data seems to work essentially the same way: https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/rollover-data.html
 
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OK, thanks, I don't feel so bad now. Was just hoping it would be the first data I use in the new month :(. lol.
It would certainly be nice. That's generally the case when it comes to promotional data, so it wouldn't much of a stretch to do it like that for rollover data (especially if it only lasts for one month). Having it last longer would be another good thing. But, yeah, as it is, (for Verizon and AT&T) it's of limited usefulness in the sense that if you were able to "save" some data from the previous month it's only useful to you if you go over the next month for some reason, which would apply to some, but probably not to most in many instances.
 
I'm surprised at this. The have so many towers in town compared to t Mobil you must live right near a t Mobil site

That might be the case but I do have reception everywhere I go. There's a certain spot near my gym where my T-Mobile LTE reaches over 130Mbit +, something that would never ever happen with Verizon. The highest I ever got with Verizon was around 15Mbit. Verizon had zero service in my work building -- even outside in my parking lot. I would have to drive 5 miles down the road and a couple bars would finally show up.

Side Note: I've travelled a lot the last two years and T-Mobile has been great. It worked great while I was in San Diego, LA, Dallas, Washington DC, Tampa, Miami and NYC. The only place where I did experience little to no service was in very very isolated areas in Texas (mostly in the highways in the middle of nowhere). Also, there was horrendous service in the Baltimore area (everything in baltimore is horrible anyway).
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And where would that be exactly?

I can name plenty of locations where T-Mobile is a no-show, yet AT&T/VZW are working perfectly.

I can name plenty of locations where VZW and AT&T are a no-show too and T-Mobile works perfect. So what's your point?
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The Boston Metro area is quite huge. You can't just make a statement that Verizon sucks in Boston and expect me to believe it. I lived here for years.

You need to really get out more if you think Boston Metro area is "huge". Boston is really really small and before you say anything yes I have lived here my whole life.

Verizon has a lot of dead spots and really crappy areas -- example: around the prudential building, Haymarket, downtown crossing, seaport district and the list goes on. Other horrible areas: West Revere, Everett by the new high school, Malden Center, Medford near the police station, Melrose (go up and down the fellsways), Somerville (near tufts and by sullivan square station), all of Chelsea, Hyde Park, Roxbury, Dedham, Norwood/westwood, parts of Cambridge, Lynn, Nahant, Peabody and the list goes on. In the 8 months i had verizon, i experienced tons of crappy service in all these areas constantly. Not to mention, service for verizon is completely nonexistent in Concord & Lexington, MA.

Sidenote, I was in the Dominican Republic for vacation, guess what? All my friends T-Mobile phones worked. I was the only one on Airplane mode.
 
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I didn't realize that the carrier with twice as many customers (as the beloved Uncarrier) was "going down the exact same path" of Blackberry. I'll be sure to share your thoughts and feelings with some Wall Street brokers!

Both AT&T and Verizon have been losing customers to Tmobile for some time now.
That's why AT&T and Verizon are trying to copy some of Tmobile's (beloved uncarrier) moves.
Why do you think they're making all these changes? Because all of a sudden they had a change of heart and decided to give more options and better competitive plans to their customers just to be nice?
Nowadays with no contracts and with other carriers willing to pay customers ETF fee's or pay off their phones there will continue to be lots of customer movement.
People are getting sick of paying an arm and a leg for service by the 2 big carriers and keep getting monopolized for years with the same bad deals copied by both AT&T and Verizon. One comes up with a new way to offer less for more money, more ways for overage fee profits and to nickel and dime their customers and then within weeks the other one does the same. Great idea partner, lets both copy each other's bad wireless plans.:D
Wake up and smell the roses. The days of AT&T and Verizon are not going to be easy from now on. They will either need to compete or they will be left in the dust.
Again all this uncarrier movement by Tmobile and all the consumer choices, deals and pricing given by Tmobile is good for every US cellular consumer no matter what carrier you are on.
You should be thanking Tmobile whether you would like to use them or not they are doing great things and making big changes for all US wireless customers.
 
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People getting sick of paying an arm and a leg for service by the big 2 carriers and keep getting monopolized for years with the same bad deals copied by both big carriers.
Wake up and smell the roses. The days of AT&T and Verizon are not going to be easy from now on. They will either need to compete or they will be left in the dust.

Ok. That still doesn't excuse the fact that both of them have twice the customers and low churn rates.

If T-Mobile is so amazing, why do the big 2 continue to have significantly more customers?

You should be thanking Tmobile whether you would like to use them or not they are doing great things and big changes for all US wireless customers.

Why should I thank them? They're not helping anyone.

T-Mobile has proven to us that they're as anti-consumer as any carrier.

Example? Secretly increasing the price of their "unlimited" plan by masking it under Binge-on.
 
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Yep. T-Mobile has unlimited texts, unlimited talk, and FULL SPEED LTE data (it simply uses your data plan from home) in Mexico and Canada - for free. Most other countries have unlimited text, and unlimited data but it's capped at 128kbps (enough for voIP services, instant messaging services, light browsing, navigation, email, etc) and talk is only $.20 per minute. Not bad, actually. Right now for the summer, you get unlimited high speed 4G LTE data in Europe. This may indicate they are looking into doing this as a full-time feature... That would be freaking awesome.

You also get unlimited YouTube, unlimited Netflix (among many other video streaming services), unlimited music streaming, unlimited Ookla speedtests... T-Mobile is the absolute best value out there. If the coverage is there. For many, it is. For many others, it still isn't. But T-Mobile is working incredibly fast at rectifying the issues. I just hugely admire what this company is doing for the industry. T-Mobile has stolen most new postpaid customers and many are switching away from the other carriers. If it wasn't for T-Mobile we wouldn't be getting these features now on Verizon and AT&T.


XTheLancerX Where in NY are you located? I am thinking about switching to TM but am worried about service. I am in the Buffalo NY Area
 
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