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hm, the swipe with left right looks very good – good idea from apple.

the elastic effect when you are on the left side is a break of the rule and inconsistent. it should look like the effect when you are in a list and reach the upper or left end.

the "grab" gesture is ok, but i still think that it should result in a screen on which you can see all the running apps - just like expose on the mac! the multitasking bar on the bottom is crap. it doesn't show enough of the running apps, you have to swipe left/right... it's confusing.

the running apps should be reperesented as screens of the running app when you make the grab gesture or hold the home button longer. the way how multitasking is handeled right now is not good.

I like the way your thinking. A screen of most recently ran apps that has like 4 large windows that show what you were doing last. Like Safari's most visited pages and small app icons of ones that have ran not so recently. That would make a nice iPad expose. Hold the ipad in landscape and you get 6 windows and more apps along the bottom. Maybe even swipe those across.
 
WOAH, this is amazing. This is seriously the best innovation in iOS yet, apart from multi tasking. I always found the home button a bit clumsy to use: click once for this, twice for that, three times for whatever, etc... Plus when you're navigating on the screen, going to use the home button is like swapping between the keyboard and the mouse, it takes time and you need to look to find the button instead of intuitively just "swiping".

The stretch effect when there are no other apps to swipe through is awesome.
 
It's amazing the lack of seriousness people take the developer NDA they agreed to. A screenshot is one thing, but a video on youtube? Ridiculous. I'm sure if their own NDA'd software was leaked, they'd have a different opinion.

But anyway, it's about f ing time Apple implemented system gestures like this. I'm not sure how this will affect multitouch 3rd-party apps. Assuming there's an API way to override the system gestures (though doubtful), the Home button would have to remain as a backup.

What I'm surprised at is the lack of gesture love on iPhones. I understand four fingers is a bit much on that screen, but why not three fingers? How many apps use three-finger gestures? Can't be many. The double-tap on Home button on the iPhone is just as if not more annoying than the iPad.
 
This looks extremely slick and lots of eye-candy with the Expose-like swipes! Looking forward to iOS 4.3! :)
 
I think the Home button will stay put because:

1. You need it to reboot...unless they create an onscreen button for that
2. Apple is trying to make the iPhone, iPad and Mac OS X Lion look/feel similar, so users can move from one to the other seamlessly. Keeping the home button on both the iPhone and iPad helps with that consistency.

I'm looking forward to the gestures...love them on my Macbook and Magic Trackpad....great update for sure!

Also, I like that you can choose what the side button does, mute or screen orientation lock. Very nice...Apple listened!
 
So…..

- I swipe and cut 5 fruit at a time in fruit ninja
- I slide 4 fingers along my piano app.
- I try to use 4/5 finger swipes in Bebot to play music

and countless other apps.

How does Apple envisage this is actually going to work in practice, and will it not stifle the possibilities for developers and users in-app.
 
Five-finger pinch on iPhone: I can do the four-finger pinch on iPhone easily, and I have big fingers.
Don't have five fingers: Use the other hand?
Can't take screenshot: Long press or double tap sleep button.

That's taking what is currently pressing a button with 1 finger and changing it to requiring your entire hand. A five finger squeeze gesture on an iPhone is not user friendly.

If they want to neaten the front of the phone, make the home button the entire lower part of the phone, a bit like the trackpads on Macbooks. It doesn't have to look like there's a button there.
 
So the next iPad, who is willing to guess that it might be missing a home button? Maybe even an orientation lock switch and volume rocker due to all the controls being available from the multitasking bar? Now if it came with bluetooth headphones they could eliminate the headphone port, and if it could be charged through a mat and use wireless syncing, then it would be just a slab with a power button using all software! I bet that is Steve Job's wet dream right there, lol.
:D this is so true, I bet that is exactly what Steve's master plan is!
It would actually make the device more durable too - with a sealed power button it could be completely dust & water proof.
 
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MacFly123 said:
No, sorry, let's not start copying Android (Honeycomb). Every device needs physical buttons especially in times of software issues...

Kiss the home button good bye!!!

I guarantee this is the first step in Steve making the home button disappear.

Yes, I also thought of "Honeycomb" BUT, Apple actually has done this already in the new iPod nano with a long press. Does that make you feel better now lol? Also, "Honeycomb" adds a second bar at the bottom of the screen for the "home", "back" and "multi-tasking" commands which takes up screen real estate. I think multi-touch gestures are a much more elegant solution!

P.S. Matias Duarte designed WebOS which is very nice next to iOS and has the best multi-tasking UI implementation, and is now at Google heading up the new "Honeycomb" UI. I may not like Android or Google, but he is a pretty good designer and has some good ideas. I think it makes sense to make tablets orientation agnostic, especially when it is so nicely and easily done with multi-touch gestures like these!

Now I'm not sure about the volume, mute, sleep/wake buttons.

Although its cool that android 3.0 is basically touch-only, I don't believe the point is to lose the buttons per se, but to create orientation independence for tablets.
 
4.3 is shaping up to be really good! I hope these features are coming to the 3GS though. :/ I'm not so sure about especially the hotspot feature. It would be so typical if such a powerful feature was removed.
 
I think the Home button will stay put because:

1. You need it to reboot...unless they create an onscreen button for that
2. Apple is trying to make the iPhone, iPad and Mac OS X Lion look/feel similar, so users can move from one to the other seamlessly. Keeping the home button on both the iPhone and iPad helps with that consistency.

I'm looking forward to the gestures...love them on my Macbook and Magic Trackpad....great update for sure!

Also, I like that you can choose what the side button does, mute or screen orientation lock. Very nice...Apple listened!

I would be OK with no home button on an iPad, but as for iPhones, I really need that one since I'm often using it with only one hand. No good way to do a five finger gesture on one hand without dropping it. :D
 
Anyone else thinks the iPhone will get alittle bigger?

4 inches at least? I can see these gestures coming to the iPhone at 4 inches but with 2 and 3 fingers as opposed to 4 and 5.

That would be cool.

I doubt they'd want to lose consistency across iOS devices.
 
I don't know if its mentioned already but don't we need the home button in order for "reboot" (home button & lock button pressed for a few seconds)?
 
IAlso it kind of makes it impossible to use these devices one handed for good now.
Indeed. It's obvious that Steve Jobs doesn't use public transportation; holding a hand strap on a speeding train with one hand while attempting to use five finger gestures with the other ... :confused:
 
Amazing!

Apple never ceases to amaze me. These gestures take a amazing product and make it even better. Way to go Apple, keep up the good work. I can't wait till this iOS update is released.
 
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lshaner said:
Removal of the home button won't happen without a suitable alternative for reset/reboot.
Hard buttons can be used to trigger reset much more reliably than touch screens, because hard buttons require far less sophisticated circuitry to interpret.

Lock button?
 
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