Video of New Multi-Touch Gestures on iPad iOS 4.3

[Matthew Yohe]

What about my post was not correct? What? Where? I said if Pandora is running, it can go longer than 10 minutes. I don't see how I need more education when my post was correct. Typically one needs edification when they are wrong, which I was not. It may be 10 minutes, it may be 5 minutes,...but those minutes are more CPU cycles and hence more e-'s into the ether and less up time.

If I want to turn off Skype, Pandora, or whatever, then it should be easier than it is now. I'd suggest something like the metaphor used in the Palm Pre. I tried it a few times and boy is it smooth.

The current Apple implementation of turning off apps is asinine. There is just no other way to put it.

If pandora is using up your battery, it is only doing so when it is actually playing music. That's when it gets access to background processing, it doesn't just continue to "run" when nothing is playing.

Electrons are electrons, and the more you save the better.

Stopping pandora from playing does just that.

 

[Bryan3089]

hint at Lion

This is absolutely giving us a peak at Lion. Remember, the first main feature mentioned by Jobs about Lion was multi-touch. We only saw a couple of new gestures, and they were shown with the Magic Mouse, which in my opinion is inferior to the Magic Trackpad in terms of multi-touch interface. Even though the ideas and on-screen transitions were quite impressive during the Lion demo, it was frustrating to see the man giving the demo have problems with the Magic Mouse's multi-touch. I think it's just not large enough of a surface...

But yeah, there are obviously many great new multi-touch gestures coming to Lion! And I cannot wait because this is removing a lot of the slowness of having to point and click and drag everything!

 

[cmaier]

You guys saying that the home button will stay around have seen this, right?

http://www.bgr.com/2011/01/12/exclusive-apple-will-remove-home-button-on-next-ipad-and-iphone-photo-booth-and-ilife-coming/

Gruber disagrees.

 

[iColombia]

Very nice.

 

[doug in albq]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/870918/

 

[Full of Win]

If pandora is using up your battery, it is only doing so when it is actually playing music. That's when it gets access to background processing, it doesn't just continue to "run" when nothing is playing.

Stopping pandora from playing does just that.

The app I have more trouble with eating up battery is NAVIGON. After I exit the app, it will run in the background (w/ GPS) and eat battery like its candy. To turn it off, all the way off, I have to double click, hold the bottom icons down, and then sort through all the apps until I find NAVIGON.

At the very least, apps should be ordered according to state. If an app is active, like NAVIGON, it should be put in the front of the line and/or have some visual cue telling me its running and not in a stand-by mode. As it is now, there is no way to tell which apps are in standby and which are not. That is WRONG. In OS X, icons tell you if its running, and iOS should be no different in their regard.

Pandora is but one example. If you turn the volume all the way down, it still runs. I've had that issue more than once, where I'll turn it down and forget about it, and then it will drain my battery. iHeart Radio is another example, I will turn it down, forget about it, and poof my battery has run down.

 

[mytakeontech]

I hope this app switching feature gets better.

What is if I want to go the last app in the list of opne apps. It should show the small preview of all the apps on top and allow me to directly go to any app I want.

 

[bmturney]

What if you are missing a finger or two?

So what happens if you are missing a couple of fingers due to a tragic beer drinking/fishing accident? I guess these new gestures aren't that helpful now are they?

 

[shartypants]

That's way cool, i love it! I don't suppose they will enable that on an iPhone, be hard to scrunch your fingers up, but might be doable.

 

[Sims898]

Wtf.

This doesn't work for me. I have the beta and no dice. Darn.

 

[JoJoCal19]

they better not remove the home button in the next gen

Seriously. I have been holding onto my cash waiting for the iPad 2 since it was so late in the cycle but if they cut out the home button then there is no way I'm buying it and I will pick up an iPad now.

 

[j-a-x]

Could you elaborate, I have Xcode I just haven't used it, such as when do I choose the option, restore. Or I just have to have iPad connected. And where is the option.

Really need these amazing gestures

This is how I got the gestures to work

1) Option click RESTORE, choose the beta firmware and install it.
2) Once it's installed, make sure your iPad is plugged into your computer
3) Open Xcode
4) go to Window->Organize
5) Select your iPad and chose "use this device for development"
6) Now go into settings and look for the gesture option.
7) If it still does not work, try rebooting your iPad.

 

[peterdevries]

They won't remove the home button. If you watch the video closely, younwill notice that that 5 finger gesture actually completely closes and shuts down the app, whereas the home button leaves them multitasking.

It's just a way of quickly and immediately shutting down an app.

 

[lshaner]

Removal of the home button won't happen without a suitable alternative for reset/reboot.
Hard buttons can be used to trigger reset much more reliably than touch screens, because hard buttons require far less sophisticated circuitry to interpret.

 

[cmaier]

They won't remove the home button. If you watch the video closely, younwill notice that that 5 finger gesture actually completely closes and shuts down the app, whereas the home button leaves them multitasking.

It's just a way of quickly and immediately shutting down an app.

No, the 5 finger gesture leaves them multitasking (assuming the app is iOS 4.0 compatible and designed to multitask - otherwise it suspends, just like when the home button is used).

 

[wolfboy]

This basically confirms iPad 2 is going to have at least 512mb of RAM for all that multi-tasking. Hopefully they just bypass it and go to 1gb but knowing Apple, that's wishful thinking.

EDIT: Also opposed to removing the buttons. It MIGHT be okay on the iPad, but definitely not on the iphone/pod. They'll have to at least put a small button on the side or something to replace it.

 

[el-John-o]

Darn, an update good enough to make me wonder if I should jailbreak or have 4.3, ha!

 

[Mattsasa]

I hope this app switching feature gets better.

What is if I want to go the last app in the list of opne apps. It should show the small preview of all the apps on top and allow me to directly go to any app I want.

umm... its called the multitsking bar!!! which was made in ios 4.

 

[Medinarem]

So

So if I only had one two or three fingers for whatever reason (accident, born that way) and they took the home button off I wouldn't be able to own an iPad?

 

[cmaier]

So if I only had one two or three fingers for whatever reason (accident, born that way) and they took the home button off I wouldn't be able to own an iPad?

It's also toe-compatible.

 

[shazzam]

We’ll see, I guess. How in the world would you get home on an iPhone using a five-finger pinch while holding it one hand? The iPad seems like a “maybe”, but I find it really hard to imagine a Home-button-less iPhone. And even with the iPad, what about people who don’t have five fingers on one hand? No iPad for them? The iPad is very popular with impaired users. What about taking screenshots?

Five-finger pinch on iPhone: I can do the four-finger pinch on iPhone easily, and I have big fingers.
Don't have five fingers: Use the other hand?
Can't take screenshot: Long press or double tap sleep button.

 

[diogenis]

With every new iOS iteration, we've been introduced some new gestures. Mastering gestures is going to be THE standard for computers for decades to come. iOS is getting better and better, faster and faster. Great news!

 

[Chase R]

very nice indeed! I hope at least the side gesture comes to iPhone.

Three finger side gesture would be sweet!

 

[batchtaster]

Still waiting for a "rotate" gesture.

1) Option click RESTORE, choose the beta firmware and install it.

0) Understand that if you have problems, you can never downgrade it, even to a previous release version.

 

[Matthew Yohe]

The app I have more trouble with eating up battery is NAVIGON. After I exit the app, it will run in the background (w/ GPS) and eat battery like its candy. To turn it off, all the way off, I have to double click, hold the bottom icons down, and then sort through all the apps until I find NAVIGON.

At the very least, apps should be ordered according to state. If an app is active, like NAVIGON, it should be put in the front of the line and/or have some visual cue telling me its running and not in a stand-by mode. As it is now, there is no way to tell which apps are in standby and which are not. That is WRONG. In OS X, icons tell you if its running, and iOS should be no different in their regard.

Pandora is but one example. If you turn the volume all the way down, it still runs. I've had that issue more than once, where I'll turn it down and forget about it, and then it will drain my battery. iHeart Radio is another example, I will turn it down, forget about it, and poof my battery has run down.

These are all issues that you should address with the developers. Seriously, they are all shortcomings of the developer apps. Anyway, all other apps that don't use GPS, Audio etc all remain dormant and do not use your previous electrons while in the background.