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Greetings everyone. I just noticed this post in my Google Reader--serendipitous!

Will this software allow me to run a program that only runs on Leopard (not Snow Leopard!) with Lion? I have program vital to my livelihood that is now ten years old, but has no substitute.

Find a new livelihood that doesn't require decade old apps.
 
It doesn't have to explicitly. You have overlooked the clause early in the license that states that all rights are reserved unless otherwise stated. They are not required to exhaustively list everything one of the thousands of things you cannot do.

The license says that you can install and run one copy of the Apple system software on one computer. That pragmatically precludes any usage with Fusion (or Parallels) since they require a host OS.
[putting aside hypervisors for the moment.] The host OS of Fusion pegs you at the maximum limit outlined in the license.

The only "out" you get is that Apple allows the license to be upgraded with an software upgrade. Those who get Lion may loop their usage of the
subset of the "apple software" that is SL may be used with the upgradedd Lion license. Running without a Lion license is likely a problem.

The license doesn't say you can only run one copy on one computer. It says that paying the purchase price gives you the right to install one copy on one Apple-branded computer. It doesn't say anything about software that was already legally installed. So if you paid for two copies of Snow Leopard, you could install each one once on the same computer, for a total of two copies.

The improvement for the end user in Lion is that Lion allows multiple installations of the same software on the same computer. In other words, you don't have to pay for extra licenses.


Its technically possible - and people do it - but its clearly prohibited in the EULA of OS X:

"You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer"

I would be quite sure that installing MacOS X on an _unhacked_ VMWare on Windows will not work. Otherwise VMWare _would_ be in trouble with Apple.

Find a new livelihood that doesn't require decade old apps.

That's a rather stupid thing to say.
 
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So does this mean I can finally upgrade to Lion and just run my Adobe Creative Suite apps in Snow Leopard virtualized?

Incompatibility with Adobe apps is the only thing keeping me from upgrading to Lion right now.

What incompatibility? CS5 is running just fine for me in Lion.

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This is definitely a concern. Apples shortsighted ultimate greed may quash this excellent new development. Yet again with Cook at the helm perhaps cooler heads with less fear will prevail. Jobs was terribly insecure, Cook as I understand it is not. Also as one who understands the benefits better, he may leave it stand as it is.

I'm forced to take a wait and see approach based on Apples very unpredictable moves in this early phase of Cooks rein. It's hard to tell what's coming directly from Cook, vs what remnants of Jobs "plans" he's still forced to carry out.

Time will tell.

Man, I sure wish there was a "super" vote down button so that I could vote this down to -1000 in one go. This is one of the inane comments I read in a long time.
 
I would be quite sure that installing MacOS X on an _unhacked_ VMWare on Windows will not work. Otherwise VMWare _would_ be in trouble with Apple.

You're probably right. My understanding is

Unhacked OS X on unhacked VMWare Workstation (Windows) = not possible
Hacked OS X on unhacked WMWare Workstation (Windows) = technically possible (but violate Apple EULA on both use of non-Apple hardware and copyright)
Unhacked OS X on hacked VMWare Workstation (Windows) = technically possible (but violate Apple and presumably VMWare EULA too)
 
IANAL, but surely if the virtual machine is labeled 'Apple' it complies with that part of the EULA anyway? You'd just have to not run it on more than the number you're licensed for (1 for single user, 5 for a family pack).

I can't really see why Apple would mind at all anyway as long as it's on a mac and you paid for any OS X installs you use. You're just saving on electricity and/or extra hard drive partitions.
 
SnowLeopard & Lion on 1 iMac (late 2006)

Hi,

I have installed SL on a separate partition and Lion on another. I switch to either one as needed. Mainly use SL only for downloading videos from my TM700 Panasonic camcorder, which is not supported by Lion yet.
This arrangement works fine for me and at 0 cost!!!
 
Hi,

I have installed SL on a separate partition and Lion on another. I switch to either one as needed. Mainly use SL only for downloading videos from my TM700 Panasonic camcorder, which is not supported by Lion yet.
This arrangement works fine for me and at 0 cost!!!

sure it does but its not very productive since u have to restart your computer. Fusion is much better since it runs on top of lion and works great. I use it every day to connect to my vpn at work
 
Hey everybody,

I upgraded to Lion this week and want to install Windows 7 on my MBP (Mid-2010, MacBookPro6,2). Since Boot Camp is not on Lion how do I install Windows 7 on my MBP? Do I have to buy VMWare Fusion?
 
So all those folks still on Leopard refusing to upgrade to OSX Lion, you can now upgrade to Lion to use Leopard. :)
 
You're just saving on electricity and/or extra hard drive partitions.

As well as joining one of the main 21st century computing paradigms.


So all those folks still on Leopard refusing to upgrade to OSX Lion, you can now upgrade to Lion to use Leopard. :)

As long as you have enough RAM and disk space to support a concurrently running second copy of OSX.... A system with 2 GiB of RAM or less is nearly unusable as a VM host system - and 4 GiB is tight if you want to run larger apps in the VM.

My Dell i7 mini-tower only has 24 GiB of RAM, so I need to plan how I use virtual machines - I can't run two 8 GiB VMs and my normal complement of apps on the host simultaneously.
 
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Uh ? Boot camp is available on Lion. :confused:

My bad I thought it was only available on Snow Leopard and Leopard. I'm new to this. I'm trying to figure out what's the best/easiest way to Install Windows 7 on Lion. I've seen 3 videos on youtube doing it but each one does a little different. Any video you've seen on youtube that you would recommend to follow step by step on how to run Win7 on MBP?
 
My bad I thought it was only available on Snow Leopard and Leopard. I'm new to this. I'm trying to figure out what's the best/easiest way to Install Windows 7 on Lion. I've seen 3 videos on youtube doing it but each one does a little different. Any video you've seen on youtube that you would recommend to follow step by step on how to run Win7 on MBP?

I run 7 in VMWare on. MBP i7 with 8 GIGS of RAM and it runs very well but I don't run games, I just test web sites.
 
This is messy, I hope I explain this in a way that is understandable. If you have Lion on one partition and SL on a second one using Boot Camp, it will not recognize the Boot Camp version of SL and rip it.
 
Sorry for the double post. It would not let me edit to attach an image.

Note the "No Boot Camp partitions found."
 

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This is messy, I hope I explain this in a way that is understandable. If you have Lion on one partition and SL on a second one using Boot Camp, it will not recognize the Boot Camp version of SL and rip it.

No, the reason being is that this is not a supported feature that they want to advertise - my guess is that there is license restrictions (or copyright) that prevents them from doing that kind of conversion that doesn’t exist on other OS's. The feature that you are talking about was more or less aimed at boot camp users with Windows - not dual boot mac partitions.
 
No, the reason being is that this is not a supported feature that they want to advertise - my guess is that there is license restrictions (or copyright) that prevents them from doing that kind of conversion that doesn’t exist on other OS's. The feature that you are talking about was more or less aimed at boot camp users with Windows - not dual boot mac partitions.

Thanks,

I guess it is finely time to unregester all my software, then reinstall. I have been dreading this for quite some time.
 
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When do we expect an ESXi and VMWare Workstation version?
 
So does the new build of Fusion (VMware-Fusion-4.1.0-529802) resolve many of the issues I was reading that people were experiencing with the previous releases?
 
This is good news.

It was possible to run Snow Leopard client through vmware before this change (with some effort), but it's good that it's simpler to do now.

Perhaps it is time to upgrade to fusion 4 (I'm still using 3). The change in Fusion licensing that allows it to run on all of my Macs is worth the purchase price.
 
can someone with a top of the line mac pro run lion inside lion using vmware and the snow leopard inside lion then windows 7 ultimate inside snow leopard the with windows xp mode run windows xp inside windows 7 then with run ubuntu inside windows xp? :rolleyes:
 
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