That may be so, but unless you are somehow commissioning him to write the review, I don't see how he owes it to you or anybody to release the report by a certain timeframe.
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Waiting for Anand's Haswell rMBP Review Megathread
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That may be so, but unless you are somehow commissioning him to write the review, I don't see how he owes it to you or anybody to release the report by a certain timeframe.
Absolutely.
Even if Anand is taking similar timeframe as that PC game - Duke Nukem Forever - to produce their review, it's up to his decision. People who don't like waiting for so long, they don't have to read the review. Just because Anand hasn't produced a review on certain Apple product, it does not mean you cannot base your purchasing decision on other reviews and make your final call.
Idk if it has been already mentioned, but notebookcheck.net usually does a good job too, almost on par with Anandtech.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Apple-MacBook-Pro-Retina-13-Late-2013-Notebook.105035.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Apple-MacBook-Pro-Retina-13-Late-2013-Notebook.105035.0.html
Not so. You simply install an appropriate processor package. That's why there's no AMD 8350 Ultrabooks, nor any ULV Core i3 mobile workstations.
What you may be missing here is flexibility in your "appropriate" package. Throttling temporarily affords you the performance of an "appropriate package" that would normally be, in keeping with your terminology, very inappropriate.
It's a level of efficiency that is determined from the idea that a user does not need the same resource 100% of the time.
There are countless examples throughout the history of innovation (within and without technology) that follow this train of improvement:
1. Determine need
2. Meet need
3. Meet need only as necessary
4. Profit
To say that a #3 product is not well designed is well, inappropriate.
I think the Mac Pro review is also the Haswell rMBP review. He shows all the graphs and performance including it. And the Late 15" rMBP 16/512/750m seem to perform very very good across the board. Bit crazy for being such a slim LAPTOP. Blows my mind.
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Due to the design of the processors, all mobile devices (and even desktops in some cases) will throttle. That's because of Turbo and the ability to go beyond the TDP rating for short periods of time, which is not sustainable in laptops due to the tight thermal budget. This is especially true if you're running a workload that's both CPU and GPU heavy because they usually share the same heatsink/fan in a laptop (whereas dedicated in desktops).
There's a separate rMBP review coming. Most of the writing is already done.
that Mac Pro review. wauw. that was almost a doctrine. you really feel the nuanced perspective. That's what reviews are all about. not this objective grey area. Nah, Anand says it like he sees it. You get where he is coming from.
I can't help but feel the delay in itself is an unspoken assessment. Were it simply that things got pushed due to travel, one would expect a ripple effect in the timing of the other reviews. That the two new iPads and the new Mac Pro took precidence rather than review in order of release would seem to suggest that it is the least interesting of the recent product releases.
Not to dismiss it, as it's likely an impressive step up for many, and is ultimately bound by what CPU tech is available.
At any rate, I'd been starting to think about upgrading my 2011 mbp when these were announced, but my gut feeling was that the performance gains of the past few years haven't been substantial enough to warrant an upgrade. The screen and size is nice, but honestly I have enough nice screens with other devices, and what I value from my laptop most is having a mobile workhorse. By that metric, there's not much new for me in the latest crop.
Not to dismiss it, as it's likely an impressive step up for many, and is ultimately bound by what CPU tech is available.
At any rate, I'd been starting to think about upgrading my 2011 mbp when these were announced, but my gut feeling was that the performance gains of the past few years haven't been substantial enough to warrant an upgrade. The screen and size is nice, but honestly I have enough nice screens with other devices, and what I value from my laptop most is having a mobile workhorse. By that metric, there's not much new for me in the latest crop.
I can't imagine anyone disagreeing with this assessment. It is just plain common sense.
I'm in the same boat. I really want to upgrade to an rMBP, but the performance increases from Sandy Bridge to now just haven't been significant enough yet. I'm hoping Broadwell-equipped models do something fantastic to interesting to the battery life/performance graph because I was underwhelmed with this year's upgrades.
Again, untrue regarding 'all mobile devices throttle'.
My 2011 17" MBP 2.5 Ghz Sandy Bridge never throttles. I lapped the heatsink, applied AS5, and when rendering in FCPX hold 3.3 Ghz (maximum Turbo) indefinitely (tested up to 2.5 hour render) at 45 watts.
Piping 'yes' to dev/null 8 times yields ~60 watts of CPU power, and Apple's power management (not thermal management) then drops my maximum Turbo to 2.8 Ghz, which again the system holds indefinitely.
Keep in mind, this is on a 2.5 Ghz system. I'm sorry, but your stance is demonstrably untrue. Further, no engineer worth his/her salt relies on a failsafe (Intel's thermal throttle management) under normal operating parameters.
i hope its out soon, looking forward to it.
mr. hammer you working on the review too?
To test the thermals you should put load also on the GPU. These systems are known to draw up to 90W e.g. when gaming, so I am not surprised that it can dissipate 60W without throttling.
I have to admit I am kinda disappointed in Anand . He doesn't owe us anything but i just feel disappointed that his review didn't come out earlier. I usually read their reviews for all products when i buy them.
I can understand from a business perspective. The new ipads and mac pros were definitely more important and given priority.
Though i think he should be passing the reviews of some of the macs to hellhammer by now. I noticed he's pretty much the main reviewer when it comes to macs. Maybe he needs to just hand the main reins to others. This current rmbp has shown some chinks in his review planning.
I am sure hellhammer and the rest of the crew are more than capable of taking over the main handling the reviews by now.
. He doesn't owe us anything but i just feel disappointed that his review didn't come out earlier. I usually read their reviews for all products when i buy them. I can understand from a business perspective. The new ipads and mac pros were definitely more important and given priority.
Though i think he should be passing the reviews of some of the macs to hellhammer by now. I noticed he's pretty much the main reviewer when it comes to macs. Maybe he needs to just hand the main reins to others. This current rmbp has shown some chinks in his review planning.
I am sure hellhammer and the rest of the crew are more than capable of taking over the main handling the reviews by now.
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