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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

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Quackington said:
Hello.

I'm considering buying the current, non-retina MBP...but am concerned about the impending new model rumours going around at the moment. The thing is, I also want to jump in and buy one new (with a 512GB SSD) just in case Apple decides to phase this model out completely (no more disc drive).

Have people had a good experience with Apple's return policy? How late to WWDC should I wait to order mine? I'm happy to keep it sealed in the box when it arrives and then call Apple about a return so I can get the new MBP if it still has a disc drive.

Thanks.
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Buy it at a store if you can on June 9. If no new hardware is announced, you could just keep it. If new MBPs are announced, return it within 14 days of June 9 (by June 23) and buy the new one with the changes.

Warning: do not buy the 512 GB SSD from Apple, as $700 is overpriced. Buy an aftermarket SSD, like the Samsung 840, for around $350.
 
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Buy it at a store if you can on June 9. If no new hardware is announced, you could just keep it. If new MBPs are announced, return it within 14 days of June 9 (by June 23) and buy the new one with the changes.

Warning: do not buy the 512 GB SSD from Apple, as $700 is overpriced. Buy an aftermarket SSD, like the Samsung 840, for around $350.
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Thanks for the response. Any reason why I shouldn't buy it online? Also, I have no idea how to install these things, and the way these machines are made, looks like it would need to be a professional job.
 
Quackington said:
Thanks for the response. Any reason why I shouldn't buy it online? Also, I have no idea how to install these things, and the way these machines are made, looks like it would need to be a professional job.
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Well, you can buy it online, just it takes a while to get there, and you have to tim it just right with the new release.

And upgrading the RAM and HDD in the MacBook Pros are really simple. Probably 10-15 minutes if you know what you're doing, 30 if you're new.

Take a look to see if you would be comfortable doing this:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Unibody+Mid+2012+Hard+Drive/10378/1
 
Laptop battery came back to life the following day and I'm hoping nothing else falters.

It would be such a treat if the new MBPs are available for purchase when the announcement is made - which would probably mean another 2-3 week wait for product.
 
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Well, you can buy it online, just it takes a while to get there, and you have to tim it just right with the new release.

And upgrading the RAM and HDD in the MacBook Pros are really simple. Probably 10-15 minutes if you know what you're doing, 30 if you're new.

Take a look to see if you would be comfortable doing this:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Unibody+Mid+2012+Hard+Drive/10378/1
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I'm leaning towards a rMBP and what I'll miss is the ability to upgrade components myself. I'm planning on going all out with a top-end model, but I feel restrictions on upgrade is cheating myself.
 
APPLE-FANATIC said:
Hopefully we will see a refresh of Time Capsule and Airport Extreme in the near future! ;)
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Me as well!
Given the last update was 2 years ago at the 2011 Keynote, it is kind of nearing it's end of product cycle. I'm sure if 802.11ac is included in this new line of Macbooks, it will be in the nail in the coffin for them and the new gen will be released :)
 
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Following up on my previous post

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/05/23/apple-confirms-wwdc-keynote-presentation-will-be-monday-june-10th/

June 10th will indeed be the day of the Keynote, that's one rumor knocked off (even though everyone suspected it) :p
We may have Haswell Macbooks in our hands in 18 days!
 
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Been following this thread for a while, as I'm in the market for a new Mac Book Pro.

I'm wondering what you guys think about this refurb deal from Apple for $1599 CAD: http://store.apple.com/ca/product/F...-23ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display.

Do you think Haswell will be worth another $500 and 2 weeks? I'm a game developer, but it's all mostly 2D games. I need to run Unity, Photoshop, Illustrator and the occasional game as well.
 
Quu said:
Interesting post on Engadget today. "Intel: Haswell will boost laptop battery life by 50 percent"

Seems like Intel has made great strides in idle system power consumption enabling huge gains in power conservation.
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Just had a read of it myself. The improvement they are reporting in idle power consumption is x20 less than Ivy Bridge!
I raised the question earlier on page 10 about battery performance. It's a huge factor to consider when upgrading your laptop IMO and it hasn't been mentioned much in this thread.
Imagine if they announce 9 hours battery life with 60 days stand-by time! It will definitely be a huge revelation, considering Macbooks have been on the 7 hour medium (which is great) for awhile.
 
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luv-pepper said:
Been following this thread for a while, as I'm in the market for a new Mac Book Pro.

I'm wondering what you guys think about this refurb deal from Apple for $1599 CAD: http://store.apple.com/ca/product/F...-23ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display.

Do you think Haswell will be worth another $500 and 2 weeks? I'm a game developer, but it's all mostly 2D games. I need to run Unity, Photoshop, Illustrator and the occasional game as well.
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The NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory will meet all yours needs that you have specified. The laptop itself is a powerhouse that is pure quality and you can't go wrong with it.

I think you should wait for the updated Haswell rMBP to be announced before purchasing a laptop though.
a) the new laptops may be less pricey on launch and may fall in your budget
b) if they are too much I'm sure the 2012 models will be even cheaper

Hope this helps your decision-making

Nbapapa,
 
Nbapapa said:
I think you should wait for the updated Haswell rMBP to be announced before purchasing a laptop though.
a) the new laptops may be less pricey on launch and may fall in your budget
b) if they are too much I'm sure the 2012 models will be even cheaper
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Thanks. That really does help. I've seen that model go from a 15% discount to a 23% discount in the last week. So, I think I can hold off and at least get it at an even better deal.
 
luv-pepper said:
Thanks. That really does help. I've seen that model go from a 15% discount to a 23% discount in the last week. So, I think I can hold off and at least get it at an even better deal.
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Just make sure you don't wait too long. The stock may go a day before June 10th.
 
skaertus said:
The MacBook Pro with retina display (the high end 13-inch model and both 15-inch models) is listed as "new" at the online Apple Store: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro

Would Apple update these models even if they are still listed as "new"?
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Yes they would. That "new" sticker is ridiculous in my opinion as all they did was give them a 100MHz CPU bump and lowered the prices. It's not really "new" in my opinion.

Haswell is a huge deal they'll definitely be updating them.
 
B... said:
Well, you can buy it online, just it takes a while to get there, and you have to tim it just right with the new release.

And upgrading the RAM and HDD in the MacBook Pros are really simple. Probably 10-15 minutes if you know what you're doing, 30 if you're new.

Take a look to see if you would be comfortable doing this:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Unibody+Mid+2012+Hard+Drive/10378/1
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Thanks for this, though it's not something I'd attempt. Doesn't this invalidate the warranty?
 
Quu said:
Yes they would. That "new" sticker is ridiculous in my opinion as all they did was give them a 100MHz CPU bump and lowered the prices. It's not really "new" in my opinion.

Haswell is a huge deal they'll definitely be updating them.
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Really? Has Apple done that before, updated hardware that was announced with a "new" sticker on their web store?

Apple will definitely update the MacBook Pro with Haswell, but I'm not sure if that will happen during WWDC in June. And the fact that the retina models are listed as "new" makes me wonder whether Apple plans to launch Haswell MacBook Pros later this year instead of June...
 
skaertus said:
Really? Has Apple done that before, updated hardware that was announced with a "new" sticker on their web store?
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The 'new' stickers are on the models that received a minor CPU bump and a small fall in pricing, in Febuary 2013. In my opinon, they should of taken those stickers down after 2 months.

I still think Apple will refresh the whole line at WWDC. I find it highly unlikely that they will only update the MBA with Haswell then update the MBP line-up down the track.
The Keynote will go something like this (not in order)
- 10% on statistics of sales
- 35% on iOS talk/demos
- 30% on OS X talk/demoa
- 25% on refreshed laptop line-up

Not sure what can fill the void if laptops aren't refreshed
 
Hi guys,

So my Mid-2010 MBP recently died. I'm 'waiting for Haswell' so I can buy a new MBP.

I was initially thinking of getting myself a 13" cMBP, mainly because of price. But after having checked out the 13" rMBP at the Apple Store the other day, I've got to admit I'm having my doubts.

I don't really need the Retina display, but I really like the size and weight of it, and I'm keen on having a machine with 8GB of RAM and an SSD (though of course I know you can fit these in a cMBP too). I'm also counting the times I used my optical drive and Ethernet port in my 2010 MBP, and to be honest they're in the single digits. This may sound silly too, but I don't want to get a new laptop that's going to look EXACTLY like the old one.

Aside from the higher price, the only doubt I have is the non-upgradeability of the rMBP. But I guess that's not a deal breaker. If the stock 4GB in my MBP was more than enough for my three year old machine, 8GB should do me fine too for the life of the machine.

(Sorry about this ramble, I was trying to write down my justifications for the rMBP).

The thing is though, I need a laptop pretty much ASAP. At home I've been using a 2006 iMac (C2D 2.0, 3GB RAM, SSD), which is doing me okay, but at work I've been taking a Powerbook G4 12" which isn't quite sustainable.
I know the cMBP's are due to come out very soon, but the rMBPs will only come out later.

So my question is: what is the expected timeframe for the rMBPs?
 
Mr MM said:
Lets complement things here

Iris = 5200 possible 5100
Iris Pro = 5200 with the edramm in there, its on the die of the cpu, not in the mobo

The rest of the intel igpu line up is 4400, 4600, 4800, 5000, 5100, 5200, 5200 with gt3e (edramm)
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I think that's wrong.

Iris Pro = GT3e = 5200 (that is, Iris Pro graphics 5200 will always have Crystalwell eDRAM)
Iris =GT3 (mainstream) = 5100
HD graphics = GT3 (ULV) = 5000
HD graphics = GT2 = 4200/4400/4600

Also, I believe the eDRAM is on-package, not on the die.

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6926/Screen Shot 2013-05-01 at 5.31.55 PM.png
 
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Zandros said:
I think that's wrong.

Iris Pro = GT3e = 5200 (that is, Iris Pro graphics 5200 will always have Crystalwell eDRAM)
Iris =GT3 (mainstream) = 5100
HD graphics = GT3 (ULV) = 5000
HD graphics = GT2 = 4200/4400/4600

Also, I believe the eDRAM is on-package, not on the die.

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6926/Screen Shot 2013-05-01 at 5.31.55 PM.png
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you are absolutely right on the therm its on die, sorry I always keep mixing those up

I saw some leaked indicating that 5200 can be without the edram as well, with higher clocks on the cores
 
Is the SSD in the rMBP easily accessible, so that I can replace it with an after market SSD vs. spending the additional hihger price Apple offers for the 512Gb SSD?:confused:
 
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