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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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Damn! It was a breeze swapping out my HDD for an SSD on my 2011 cMBP
Well, that is one of the differences between a rMBP and a cMBP.
Physically it is much easier to remove the SSD from the rMBP than it was to remove a hard drive from the Classic MBP's (Not Unibody MBP's). The problem of course is sourcing a new SSD to go in to the rMBP. There isn't many suppliers and it seems that Apples default SSD is faster than OWC's one.
I remember changing the Hard Drive on my Classic 2006 MBP. It took me like an hour and I had to remove so many components to get to it. Contrast that with the uMBP, it was a 5 minute process. The Retina MBP seems even faster than that with the SSD stick only being held down by one screw.
I remember changing the Hard Drive on my Classic 2006 MBP. It took me like an hour and I had to remove so many components to get to it. Contrast that with the uMBP, it was a 5 minute process. The Retina MBP seems even faster than that with the SSD stick only being held down by one screw.
If you feel you need the upgradability option, stick with the cMBP. If it isn't that important, then get a rMBP with specs that will meet your needs for the next few years. The rMBPs are truley wonderful machines and investments, so I would recommend them over a cMBP to anyone.
Speculation is a June 11th refresh (almost two weeks) of the whole MBA line-up. So hopefully you can hold off until then
the Haswell rMBP will be a noticable boost for 13" in particular as the new Intel chips should improve graphics considerably. If you aren't into graphics, there is also the likelyhood of a minor price-drop and 802.11ac capabilties, as well as the obvious CPU improvements.
Does anyone know how soon Amazon receives the MacBook Pro's (Retina) after they are announced (or refreshed by Apple)? Is there a significant delay before they get them? Amazon seems to always have them discounted by 150 bucks!
For the February refresh it was available for Pre-Order immediately, in stock in about a week. Discounted on the one month mark.
I think there are two reasons. One is that the size of the laptop the thickness makes it difficult to get two sticks in there. One would fit, but two would I don't think be possible as the mechanism to secure both sticks would be quite thick.
And the second reason I think is because they are using DDR3L the L means its Low Voltage. I think the RAM in the rMBP uses 1.1v or 1.2v which is considerably less than the much more common 1.5v to 1.6v that is available at retail. I've not actually seen any DDR3L at retail yet. Perhaps they don't want people installing normal DDR3 and moaning that their battery life is considerably lower?
But really I think the first reason about the thickness of the mechanism required to support two RAM sticks is the reason. Getting a single stick with 16GB of RAM on it would be expensive for end users to purchase (for upgrades) and I'm not sure those exist at retail for notebooks yet.
I had imagined they would use their own 'proprietary' RAM stick, just like they did with the SSD. So, let's say 4 GB is already integrated on the motherboard, then, at some place at the motherboard, you basically insert a RAM stick looking just like the SSD stick, but smaller. Secure it with one screw... and done. Then at least it would be upgradeable, in some way.
That is a good point but I think the only reason they actually gave us removable storage is because when the notebook fails it's very easy for them to move a customers data from a broken notebook to a working one. Since RAM holds no data when powered off I guess they didn't feel it necessary.
That's my thoughts on it anyway. I'd personally prefer removable RAM like the SSD stick.
It is highly probable they will announce them at WWDC. But when they will become available to purchase is anybodies guess. They could become available that day, that week or that month.
I would be extremely surprised if they do not announce refreshed MacBook Pro's at WWDC because of the leaks we have had so far including Intel's Haswell roadmap, NVIDIA's release of the 700 Series and the Broadcom based 802.11ac wireless card.
Everything is "coming together" for a June 10th announcement and this would be one year since they were introduced making it a logical place to launch. Again I'm not sure about the availability I think it really depends on how many CPU's Intel is able to deliver to Apple before June 10th.
If they are announced at WWDC, there is a 100% chance of them being out by August.
Usually when Apple announces new hardware they like it to be available within 30 days of the announcement and the sooner the better. I can only think of a couple of occasions where products have taken longer than that due to manufacturing issues.
So I would expect if they announce the new models on June 10th that they will be available before July 10th which is comfortably before August.
But again this is just an educated projection based on what they've done previously, anything could happen with Apple
Do prices stay the same when the Notebooks are refreshed? I am waiting to buy a rMBP but waiting for the refresh coming soon.
I know Tim Cook said no "new" products from Apple until Fall 2013, Im assuming he is referring to total redesigned products and not "refreshed" models? I wold hope they wouldnt wait until Sept to refresh the MacBook line
I know Tim Cook said no "new" products from Apple until Fall 2013, Im assuming he is referring to total redesigned products and not "refreshed" models? I wold hope they wouldnt wait until Sept to refresh the MacBook line
One hopes.
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