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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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And it would end this thread...
So that the "Waiting for Broadwell MBP" Mega Thread could commence
I've been watching this thread for a good month plus now hoping...HOPING something would leak information wise that's somewhat concrete. NOTHING!
I start school on July 31st and will be buying a Macbook pro retina. Haswell battery life is what im really hoping for being in school and studying in the library all evening.
Crossing fingers to be able to get Haswell before July 28th. Come on Apple - you are killing us with anticipation!! Just announce FALL release or July Refresh - SOMETHING!!
I guess anticipation of the unknown is a great marketing angle because at this point - I'll pay damn near anything to get my hands on the next macbook pro retina!!
I start school on July 31st and will be buying a Macbook pro retina. Haswell battery life is what im really hoping for being in school and studying in the library all evening.
Crossing fingers to be able to get Haswell before July 28th. Come on Apple - you are killing us with anticipation!! Just announce FALL release or July Refresh - SOMETHING!!
I guess anticipation of the unknown is a great marketing angle because at this point - I'll pay damn near anything to get my hands on the next macbook pro retina!!
I feel like next week there will be a massive surge of rMBP purchases regardless of whether or not Apple releases the Haswell rMBPs.
If there is a rMBP update next week, the surge is self explanatory. If they have no release next week I think many customers (myself included) won't want to wait until October and will just plop down some cash for the current rMBP.
If there is a rMBP update next week, the surge is self explanatory. If they have no release next week I think many customers (myself included) won't want to wait until October and will just plop down some cash for the current rMBP.
Adding fuel to the fire (fuel I don't believe in, but hey, we're all bored):
Another site predicts July 30, based on (i) Apple's "typically" releasing produces on a Tuesday, and (ii) Best Buy's current $200 off sale on existing stock ends July 30.
I'd still rather see an announcment in next Tuesday's quarterly call
Another site predicts July 30, based on (i) Apple's "typically" releasing produces on a Tuesday, and (ii) Best Buy's current $200 off sale on existing stock ends July 30.
I'd still rather see an announcment in next Tuesday's quarterly call
I was talking to Mythlogic, who is also selling a version of the PC System76 is selling equipped with the 4750HQ (both are rebrands of the Clevo W740SU) and they said that Intel has already released this chip to OEMs, who have started building machines with it, and they expect to receive their shipment by next Friday and be shipping to customers about a week after that. They would know by now if that was completely unrealistic. If the 4750HQ was what was being waited on, this month is still a realistic launch window.
Its almost as if what I have been saying all along in the dGPU vs. iGPU debate has been correct. Slightly worse game performance for much better compute performance (or, you know, what the majority of people will be using their MBPs for). Sorry gamers would have to take a hit, but the gamer is not Apples target audience, professionals are and Iris Pro is better for them.
EDIT: Also, to address a question earlier about if I actually play games, yes I do, but not really online, which is probably why 30 fps is playable to me, I don't see the huge dips that come from large numbers of people doing things at once. I still prefer higher, but I won't play a game I can't get at least 30 fps on.
I really hope they refresh this month. If they don't I'm getting a Dell XPS 12, a MacBook Air 13" or a Mythlogic Callisto 1413. I can't wait for October to get a computer, I refuse to pay over $1,000 for something with HD 4000 graphics (the main reason I didn't get a rMBP last year), and I don't want a laptop over 14".
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I agree with you too!, lets discuss ideas and thoughts, rarher than critizising people! +1 to john123 !!!
One reasonable option you might keep in mind (if Haswell MBPs don't materialize in time) is purchasing a 2012 refurb model now, and later selling it and trading up. Your transaction costs would be quite small.
I actually don't think any of us (myself included) have disagreed with your overall characterization here. We just disagree the "slightly" part. For most serious gamers, 30 FPS is considered atrocious. That said, I do believe you're right, and that the Apple laptop gaming market is small enough that they wouldn't necessarily worry about those lost sales.
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This right here, except 30 fps is mediocre at best. But dipping below 30... oh boy.
fair enough
That really depends on how much variation there is that results in the 30 fps average. If it keeps it between 25 and 35 the entire time, that would be fine, but if it is dipping as low as 10 or 15 and getting as high as 45 or 50 to get that average, then yes, that would be unacceptable. Which is why I liked that German site someone posted earlier, they used a graph to show their frame rate over time instead of just telling you the average. And in all the games other than Metro: Last Light, Iris Pro was able to keep the FPS above 30.
I actually work as a scientist, for decades by now. The use of statistics and notation "N=x" by the poster for mathematical and logical argument was exactly correct, as intended.
I do hope that knowing how to read, write, and do math well are not somehow "uncool." If so, then perhaps the folks who agree will happily forgo the wondrous direct benefits of science, which include the MBP (any kind).
To criticise something that one benefits from is a perfect case of hypocrisy. That's my opinion, FWIW.
I do hope that knowing how to read, write, and do math well are not somehow "uncool." If so, then perhaps the folks who agree will happily forgo the wondrous direct benefits of science, which include the MBP (any kind).
To criticise something that one benefits from is a perfect case of hypocrisy. That's my opinion, FWIW.
Have been following this thread since June and decided to sign up just to respond to this post. This is probably the best example of projection I've seen
. Whatever you have said here applies pretty much word-to-word to your posts (under your original account). But hey that is what makes reading these forums entertaining
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my buisness owes me a laptop. I have a mid 11 air but when my partner bought the retina, i got the hots for it. Now i was just about to purchase it and i checked the macrumors buyers guide and now im stuck here.
you shall NOT underestimate 802.11n. just because your wireless router maximum throughput is 30MB/s doesn't mean there aren't others that are better.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/bar/113-5-ghz-dn-c
another lazy man's chart, in the table look at the Rank column ... N900 below is 802.11n, and anything above 1000 is 802.11ac.
again, some of 802.11n routers that topped the chart can give up to 70MB/s range ( except that asus rt-n66u .... he's cheating ), utilizing all your NAS speed.
know thy router, 802.11ac is good to have but currently ( and maybe few years to the future ) 802.11n still abundant for most use case scenarios.
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Why the asus rt-n66u is cheating? I reached this speed with 5ghz band!
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