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Do you guys see apple releasing a non retina pro with the retina body to kill off the cd drive once and for all ?

This is what im hoping for. Im not fussed about retina. I just want a solid 15" laptop from apple. If the cmbp was still available with the 1gb vram i would have bought one 2 months ago. Im hoping they keep the new body shape, but with non retina models and hopefully be around £300 cheaper than the retina.
 
Is that amd card that much superior? Apart from better OpenCL performance (which I think amd always had an edge, since nvidia was more focused on CUDA), what advantages does the AMD card have that make it more attractive to graphic designers?

the openGL performance as well. the problem with kepler is that its terrible on computations that aint gaming related
 
This is what im hoping for. Im not fussed about retina. I just want a solid 15" laptop from apple. If the cmbp was still available with the 1gb vram i would have bought one 2 months ago. Im hoping they keep the new body shape, but with non retina models and hopefully be around £300 cheaper than the retina.

Not going to happen. That requires a switch to an SSD to save space, which brings it so close to the retina that Apple's probably wouldn't even bother. rMBP=lastest and greatest. cMBP: heavy, thick (that's what they want you to think).
 
If the cmbp was still available with the 1gb vram i would have bought one 2 months ago.

You can still get the cMBP with 1GB of VRAM as a BTO option, I believe..

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I'm personally holding off for the gpu increase over the processor bump.

Same for me. I don't want to get a 15" w/ dedicated GPU. Hoping the Haswell 13" will be able to satisfy my gaming needs. What games are you looking to play? I'd like to play SC2 and Counter-Strike GO natively on OSX. Don't really want to mess with bootcamp.

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*sigh* It's sad, I've already spent way too much time browsing around the internet for speculation on this, looking at retina macbook pro unboxings of the current models, and of course reading through pretty much this whole thread and some others. I should probably do something productive. What makes it even more sad is I've got plenty of things to keep me occupied, and my 2011 13" mbp is still a pretty good machine. But dangit, I've got the money and those 15" retina macbook pros are sexy, and I can't think of anything else. :(

June 10, get here faster!!

At least you have an MBP! I sold my Win7 laptop last week in anticipation of getting a Haswell MBP. My only "computer" right is my iPhone haha.
 
Same for me. I don't want to get a 15" w/ dedicated GPU. Hoping the Haswell 13" will be able to satisfy my gaming needs. What games are you looking to play? I'd like to play SC2 and Counter-Strike GO natively on OSX. Don't really want to mess with bootcamp.

I'm not really a gamer tbh, i would mainly use it for graphical processing/encoding.

I know the current will probably do me fine but on a component that cannot be changed i want something 2013 that will last the long run.

Q. With Haswell's graphical performance comparing to the 650m is it possible that Apple will just go with the integrated GPU for the 15" model?
 
Not going to happen. That requires a switch to an SSD to save space, which brings it so close to the retina that Apple's probably wouldn't even bother. rMBP=lastest and greatest. cMBP: heavy, thick (that's what they want you to think).
Agreed, plus (as has been mentioned earlier in this thread I believe) one of the reasons they're keeping the cMBPs the way they are (thicker chassis) is the CD drive, which is useful in emerging markets where internet access isn't as good.

At least you have an MBP! I sold my Win7 laptop last week in anticipation of getting a Haswell MBP. My only "computer" right is my iPhone haha.

:D Yeah, I'm pretty lucky just to have my current mbp. To be fair though, it's easier for me to make a case that I "need" an up-to-date mac more than most folks, seeing as I'm an iOS programmer. But mainly it's just an excuse to fool myself into buying more Apple products.
 
Q. With Haswell's graphical performance comparing to the 650m is it possible that Apple will just go with the integrated GPU for the 15" model?

I really doubt it. For one thing, I've heard that Haswell's ability to actually compete with dedicated GPUs is exaggerated (I'll leave it to someone else to back this up with something concrete), and even if Haswell was on par with a 650m, Apple's clocked the 650m higher than normal. Basically, only using Haswell's Iris graphics would be a step backwards in terms of performance which I don't think would sit well with the "Pro" crowd Apple is selling this to.

Also, just saw this earlier:
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/05/3...retina-13-inch-macbook-pro-now-starts-at-999/ Anyone care to over-speculate on what this means for WWDC / Macbook Pro refresh? :D

Maybe they lowered the price because they're trying to clear out stock for new models that are coming in the near future? But if they didn't lower the price on the retina MBP... nah, I'm reading too far into this.
 
I was wondering how you interpret the price drop of the 13'' cMBP in the education store. As a reminder, when the white MacBook was discontinued, it continued to be available in the education store for a few more years, at the same $999 price point.

Is it a) just a plan to get more students into OSX and boost Mac sales or b) a sign that the cMBPs will be discontinued?

A $999 price point would make a lot of sense if Apple doesn't upgrade the CPU in the model. This would be a good machine for students who might need a CD drive and sufficient storage, something the Air can't offer for $999.
 
I was wondering how you interpret the price drop of the 13'' cMBP in the education store. As a reminder, when the white MacBook was discontinued, it continued to be available in the education store for a few more years, at the same $999 price point.

Is it a) just a plan to get more students into OSX and boost Mac sales or b) a sign that the cMBPs will be discontinued?

A $999 price point would make a lot of sense if Apple doesn't upgrade the CPU in the model. This would be a good machine for students who might need a CD drive and sufficient storage, something the Air can't offer for $999.

My interpretation: cMBP will not get the Haswell upgrade and will eventually be discontinued, while the education model will remain as an option for students at US$ 999. It makes sense for me, but it's just me trying to read into the facts. I guess most people have a different opinion, or wish Apple keeps the cMBP.
 
My interpretation: cMBP will not get the Haswell upgrade and will eventually be discontinued, while the education model will remain as an option for students at US$ 999. It makes sense for me, but it's just me trying to read into the facts. I guess most people have a different opinion, or wish Apple keeps the cMBP.

I doubt Intel will continue producing Ivy Bridge for more than a few months after Haswell comes out. So, that is probably not a practical long-term solution.

The way I see it, Apple is trying to empty out stock of mbps to make way for the new revision, hence all the price reductions right before WWDC.
 
I doubt Intel will continue producing Ivy Bridge for more than a few months after Haswell comes out. So, that is probably not a practical long-term solution.

The way I see it, Apple is trying to empty out stock of mbps to make way for the new revision, hence all the price reductions right before WWDC.

This is my interpretation as well. Hopefully this means we'll have the new Haswell cMBPs and rMBPs pretty soon after WWDC. I'm hoping for same day availability, but I'm not sure how likely that is.
 
The way I see it, Apple is trying to empty out stock of mbps to make way for the new revision, hence all the price reductions right before WWDC.

I understand this logic. Do you think the price drop even further once the refreshed Macbooks go on sale?
 
Refurbished Store, yes they do. Just not brand new. FWIW, you can probably find "old" generation products that are physically "brand new" in certain online retailers.

Right. I though he meant new ones online for a cheaper price.
 
New ones as in Haswell or new ones as in current generation, brand new for cheaper price when Haswell is released?

I thought he meant the IB ones online, new, at a cheaper price than right now, alongside the Haswell machines. It might happen if Apple doesn't update the cMBPs, but unlikely.
 
I thought he meant the IB ones online, new, at a cheaper price than right now, alongside the Haswell machines. It might happen if Apple doesn't update the cMBPs, but unlikely.

That will in all likeliness, happen. Some online retailers still sell brand new last generation iMacs for a price that was cheaper than before current generation was released.
 
New ones as in Haswell or new ones as in current generation, brand new for cheaper price when Haswell is released?

I thought he meant the IB ones online, new, at a cheaper price than right now, alongside the Haswell machines. It might happen if Apple doesn't update the cMBPs, but unlikely.

Exactly what I meant. New ones as in current IB models.
 
I doubt Intel will continue producing Ivy Bridge for more than a few months after Haswell comes out. So, that is probably not a practical long-term solution.

The way I see it, Apple is trying to empty out stock of mbps to make way for the new revision, hence all the price reductions right before WWDC.

What I would like to see at WWDC (and is feasible):

- retina MacBook Pro with Haswell;
- redesigned MacBook Air with Haswell and a retina display;
- updated Mac Pro.

What I think we'll see at WWDC:

- updated MacBook Air with Haswell;
- updated Mac Pro.

And that's pretty much it.
 
I really doubt it. For one thing, I've heard that Haswell's ability to actually compete with dedicated GPUs is exaggerated (I'll leave it to someone else to back this up with something concrete), and even if Haswell was on par with a 650m, Apple's clocked the 650m higher than normal. Basically, only using Haswell's Iris graphics would be a step backwards in terms of performance which I don't think would sit well with the "Pro" crowd Apple is selling this to.

Does anyone think Apple might be putting an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M GPU into the new rMBPs? That's what Razer equips the Blade with - http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade/ - which incidentally looks almost exactly like a MBP - and incidentally, both are 0.71 inch thick.
 
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Does anyone think Apple might be putting an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M GPU into the new rMBPs? That's what Razer equips the Blade with - http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade/ - which incidentally looks almost exactly like a MBP - and incidentally, both are 0.71 inch thick.

They will most likely bump the GPU, but the 750m seems like the likely candidate despite it hardly providing a viable boost.

With that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if they choose another graphics card such as the one you mentioned.
 
Does anyone think Apple might be putting an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M GPU into the new rMBPs? That's what Razer equips the Blade with - http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade/ - which incidentally looks almost exactly like a MBP - and incidentally, both are 0.71 inch thick.

That laptop is kinda impressive. How much do you think it will retail for? I couldn't find any prices on the link.
 
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