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This is interesting. Could you explain?

OpenCL performs better with Iris Pro because of the faster edram. So Iris Pro will perform better than a 650M on software that utilizes OpenCL and can take advantage of the Iris Pro (like FCPX probably will).
 
OpenCL performs better with Iris Pro because of the faster edram. So Iris Pro will perform better than a 650M on software that utilizes OpenCL and can take advantage of the Iris Pro (like FCPX probably will).

I see. That's pretty cool.
 
I'm fairly certain apple knows what price they will sell their MBPr at, which they will release in 1 to 2 months

You were also making claims about next year's prices. Regardless, we don't know when Apple will release the next MBP. It might be one or two months from now or it might not be. If it's one month out, there is probably a tentative decision on prices. If it's two months out, any pricing plans would be too tentative to call a "decision".

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perfect, and how much do you think any of those changes would actually lead to a finished product developed only for apple?
Now you're introducing the idea of exclusivity.

we also have to count the fact that in the end adding anything would need more validation as well, aside the cost increase for the low demand, low production rate, different line and so forth

after all the iris pro cpus aren't cheap in any sense of the word.
Intel already make (and are either sampling or shipping) dozens of Haswell variants. Apple's volumes are large enough that they could demand one more variant from Intel and it would not be one of the weakest sellers in the Haswell lineup -- whether it was an Apple exclusive or not.
 
Sounds like you are the one who needs to chill. All I commented on was that from your post, you were implying that there would be no MBP's in September and you acted like it was a sure thing.

Really? A rumor about an iPhone-only event doesn't in the least decrease the possibility of other major hardware being announced the same month? And I was really acting like it was a sure thing?

Man. The pen truly is mightier than the sword.

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I need to chill.

You and me both.
 
Price decrease ?

Does anyone think that the price of the rMBPs will go down at all? If they're supposedly killing off the cMBP
 
Does anyone think that the price of the rMBPs will go down at all?
Apple's cost of retina displays, especially in larger sizes, continues to decline due to improvement in yields.

If they're supposedly killing off the cMBP
I suppose that Apple will not update the cMBP, as part of the effort to kill off the optical brick in favor of iTunes, but that is only supposition. I note that the cMBP is now the only remaining Apple model with an integrated optical brick. Even the desktop models no longer include an integrated optical brick. I expected it would be gone from the laptops before the desktops.
 
It will be interesting to see what apple does with all the extra space left by eliminating the dGPU

Maybe further strive towards making the laptop physically consist of 80% battery and 20% 'other electronics and aluminum'.
 
I might be tempted by an Iris Pro based notebook but the price and feature set needs to be right. Knowing my lock it'll be on the 13.3" Retina...

I'm really torn between two Clevo notebooks right now to take with me on my vacation.
 
I might be tempted by an Iris Pro based notebook but the price and feature set needs to be right. Knowing my lock it'll be on the 13.3" Retina.

I expect the 13" MBP will have Iris 5100 HD graphics and the 15" will have Iris Pro 5200 HD graphics.
 
There better be a dgpu version. I've been waiting too damn long for a new laptop and if its integrated only I'll be pissed. :mad:
 
There better be a dgpu version. I've been waiting too damn long for a new laptop and if its integrated only I'll be pissed. :mad:

What I have wanted for years is a 15" MBA. I would buy a 15" rMBP with the discrete GPU replaced by Iris Pro 5200 HD graphics. I would not buy another 15" MBP with discrete graphics. I did that once and won't do it again.
 
I suppose that Apple will not update the cMBP, as part of the effort to kill off the optical brick in favor of iTunes, but that is only supposition. I note that the cMBP is now the only remaining Apple model with an integrated optical brick. Even the desktop models no longer include an integrated optical brick. I expected it would be gone from the laptops before the desktops.

I think the optical drive still being available in the laptops (the cMBP) and not desktops (not including the ancient and about to be extinct classic Mac Pro) is an anomaly. It has more to do with Apple needing to offer at least one laptop model with a high capacity HDD at a low price. The optical drive has just come along for the ride.
 
I'm a Haswell backpeddeler...

(Apologies in advance - as I read back thru this it's pretty long-winded...)

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Wow - I had been waiting for my "dream laptop" - a 13" Retina Haswell with Iris Pro for "Nvidia-650ish" graphics performance (I really do want quad-core and at least reasonable GPU capability).

After hours of reading thru here, there seems to a strong consensus that the 13" won't be getting quad-core+5200 due to thermal constraints.

With that said, my next best option looked like the retina 15" - but it sounds that the quad-core i7 + 5200 is "barely" an upgrade from today's base rMBP, and in many ways (excepting battery life+802.11ac) will likely be neutral to a slight downgrade...

Now that there is a $500 discount being offered on the current-gen Ivy Bridge 15" rMBP... I really don't see any reason not to jump to today's offering - I can get this for $1599 or pay $500 extra in a month or so for slightly more battery life?
 
(Apologies in advance - as I read back thru this it's pretty long-winded...)

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Wow - I had been waiting for my "dream laptop" - a 13" Retina Haswell with Iris Pro for "Nvidia-650ish" graphics performance (I really do want quad-core and at least reasonable GPU capability).

After hours of reading thru here, there seems to a strong consensus that the 13" won't be getting quad-core+5200 due to thermal constraints.

With that said, my next best option looked like the retina 15" - but it sounds that the quad-core i7 + 5200 is "barely" an upgrade from today's base rMBP, and in many ways (excepting battery life+802.11ac) will likely be neutral to a slight downgrade...

Now that there is a $500 discount being offered on the current-gen Ivy Bridge 15" rMBP... I really don't see any reason not to jump to today's offering - I can get this for $1599 or pay $500 extra in a month or so for slightly more battery life?

Yup, it there is no dGPU the update wont be as great.

Youll get WiFi AC, PCI-e SSD and if no dGPU at least 1-2 hours more battery life.
 
As long as I can play Guild Wars 2 on the new MBP, I'll be happy.

I can't believe that Apple would no longer offer discrete GPUs on any of their laptops, because this would completely close them off to people who want to be able to play graphics-intensive games on their laptops. Apple's at least gotta offer a GeForce 7xx as an option.
 
As long as I can play Guild Wars 2 on the new MBP, I'll be happy.

I can't believe that Apple would no longer offer discrete GPUs on any of their laptops, because this would completely close them off to people who want to be able to play graphics-intensive games on their laptops. Apple's at least gotta offer a GeForce 7xx as an option.

I think where I struggle with this question is... if they do offer a discrete GPU, at what price-point?

If they do choose a strategy where the base model has the Iris 5200 configuration, at what price point can they offer that PLUS a discrete GPU, 7xx or otherwise? Or do they have 5200 at the low-end (longest battery life, etc.) but then a non-5200 quad-core i7 + discrete at the $2700+ price point possibly?

Either way, I struggle to differentiate the performance of this vs. the currently available $1600 base model available today via refurb!
 
Maybe further strive towards making the laptop physically consist of 80% battery and 20% 'other electronics and aluminum'.

Well you do have to admit that battery technology has barely advanced compared to "electronics and aluminum" processes.
 
There better be a dgpu version. I've been waiting too damn long for a new laptop and if its integrated only I'll be pissed. :mad:

lol dude if you've been reading anything about the Iris Pro, the MBP's historical gaming credentials, and Apple's marketing, you may be a little disappointed, but not straight up pissed. :rolleyes: Why don't you just wait and see? You might be surprised.
 
How likely is it we'll see new Macbooks and updated Thunderbolt display at the sametime? I'm planning to finance both and would like to get them at the sametime to finance them together...I could also opt to just get new rmbp pickup the display with cash if it doesn't show up sameday...but if they go 4k, that's gonna leave a dent on the checking acct. But I'm not sure 4k's in the cards just yet.

It would be ideal (For me haha) to release the new Mac Pro, Haswell Mac Book Pro Retina and updated Thunderbolt display at the same time. But per history, they've released Thunderbolt 1 enabled systems ahead of the display by a few months.
 
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