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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

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Jordan-D said:
Because you were expecting one today? :D
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haha no just I check MacRumors every day and every day there is no update. I was expecting them at WWDC. Then that came and went, then June went, then july, now we are mid way through August and no sign. And I still wait patiently :D
 
Quu said:
haha no just I check MacRumors every day and every day there is no update. I was expecting them at WWDC. Then that came and went, then June went, then july, now we are mid way through August and no sign. And I still wait patiently :D
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Well good news—we're as far from WWDC as from mid-October! And we'll probably have lots of shiny iOS stuff to entertain us for a little bit in September.

Now I'm not saying anything about those days when our laptops are finally in transit. Those will be tough. Very tough.

(Next-day shipping is only $23 though! Only 1% of the laptop cost!)
 
i couldnt wait any longer. bought the 13" macbook pro retina i5.
now that im using it though, it feels a little small =( . 15" is the perfect size if only it wasnt so darn expensive.
 
phillyfan9090 said:
it is the best machine. i wish i got it. if only the machines werent 2000+, id get it. refurbished are cheaper, but im worried about battery life, scratches, etc
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I've never bought refurbished, but from my understanding the components (e.g. batteries) are all in as-new/brand new condition. And if you don't like it you can always return it. I have no idea what your situation is, but it seems you should probably exchange your laptop—you don't want buyer's remorse on an expensive machine.

(Then again I might be biased—I was planning on getting a 13" myself and then realized I was only kidding myself and trying to be reasonable and I really want a 15". So I'll be getting a 15".)

Edit. Changed to "As-new" because I feel like there must be some catch to buying refurbished... maybe someone can enlighten me?
 
polymersayb said:
I've never bought refurbished, but from my understanding the components (e.g. batteries) are all in as-new/brand new condition. And if you don't like it you can always return it. I have no idea what your situation is, but it seems you should probably exchange your laptop—you don't want buyer's remorse on an expensive machine.

(Then again I might be biased—I was planning on getting a 13" myself and then realized I was only kidding myself and trying to be reasonable and I really want a 15". So I'll be getting a 15".)

Edit. Changed to "As-new" because I feel like there must be some catch to buying refurbished... maybe someone can enlighten me?
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Idk anything about Apple's refurbs in particular. But I know that generally speaking; refurbs most of the time are computers that have been used very lightly, and then there was a defect with them, and they got swapped out. Like those times when people have a problem that apple care can't fix, and they just give them a new computer. They will take that computer, fix it later, on their own, and then sell it as a refurb. Almost all will look "like new" and I doubt they try and sell ones that have serious scratches, or else they buff them out or something (but they probably discard those ones to begin with). No mistake they were previously used though. I don't know to what degree, but my assumption is less than 2-3 months use.
 
polymersayb said:
I've never bought refurbished, but from my understanding the components (e.g. batteries) are all in as-new/brand new condition. And if you don't like it you can always return it. I have no idea what your situation is, but it seems you should probably exchange your laptop—you don't want buyer's remorse on an expensive machine.

(Then again I might be biased—I was planning on getting a 13" myself and then realized I was only kidding myself and trying to be reasonable and I really want a 15". So I'll be getting a 15".)

Edit. Changed to "As-new" because I feel like there must be some catch to buying refurbished... maybe someone can enlighten me?
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I've purchased a refurb imac and MBP - they've been great. The only thing of course is that the configurations are often odd (sometimes what you're looking for, though). I don't have any data to back this up but I actually have confidence in Apple's refurbs knowing that there's almost a guarantee that it was personally inspected, which is more than can be said of new hardware. Also, they come with new warranties.
 
phillyfan9090 said:
it is the best machine. i wish i got it. if only the machines werent 2000+, id get it. refurbished are cheaper, but im worried about battery life, scratches, etc
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polymersayb said:
Edit. Changed to "As-new" because I feel like there must be some catch to buying refurbished... maybe someone can enlighten me?
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There's no catch. The batteries have 0 or 1 charge cycle (reflecting testing only). There are no scratches, no dents, no nothing. The only issue is that, legally, Apple cannot resell them to consumers as "new." They're a heck of a deal.

Apple refurbs are the exception to the usual rule in electronics. Many manufacturers don't have as rigorous a testing cycle, and they sell their refurb products (e.g., TVs) with a 90 day warranty. The quality of Apple's products, the standard 1 year warranty, and the fact that you can buy AppleCare all basically make buying refub a no-brainer unless you want to have a new product within the months following its introduction.
 
sofianito said:
It is better for everybody to show solidarity and stand up for the others, because it'll affect everyone either directly or indirectly...
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I definitely feel for those that want the 15" and have no idea what'll happen with the GPU and such, but I can't honestly say I know how they feel. So I'm just kinda watching from the outside to see what happens.
 
the ifs on this thread is pointing to a haswell mbp without a discrete graphic card. say i am using it for cs6 and fcpx, is it going to matter? or will the haswell give it better speeds? thanks for the reply people!
 
john123 said:
There's no catch. The batteries have 0 or 1 charge cycle (reflecting testing only). There are no scratches, no dents, no nothing. The only issue is that, legally, Apple cannot resell them to consumers as "new." They're a heck of a deal.

Apple refurbs are the exception to the usual rule in electronics. Many manufacturers don't have as rigorous a testing cycle, and they sell their refurb products (e.g., TVs) with a 90 day warranty. The quality of Apple's products, the standard 1 year warranty, and the fact that you can buy AppleCare all basically make buying refub a no-brainer unless you want to have a new product within the months following its introduction.
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I trust that apple would have higher quality refurbs than other places too, and no doubt they check them before re-selling. You're probably less likely to get a problem with a refurb than you are a new product for that reason...but what makes them a refurb then? Just the fact that they've been returned?

1) Someone buys a 15" rMBP and returns it 6 days later. It has no scratches. It will be sold as a refurb?

2) Someone buys a 15" rMBP, uses it for 2 months (acquires some scratches) and it has some error with colors being messed up on the screen, they replace the logic board, not it, they replace the gpu, not it, so they give the person a new unit. They eventually fix the problem. Will that unit be sold as a refurb too? What about the scratches then?
 
I have a September 2nd deadline. With the bts promo ending on the 6th and my semester starting on the third, I have no choice but to get the current 13 inch rmbp on that date. Obviously I'm praying for a surprise release before then but it's clearly unlikely
 
Mrhighdef said:
I have a September 2nd deadline. With the bts promo ending on the 6th and my semester starting on the third, I have no choice but to get the current 13 inch rmbp on that date. Obviously I'm praying for a surprise release before then but it's clearly unlikely
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Gotta be happy with what you're getting man. If you reallyyyy care enough, you'll work part time during school to make some money (or use money you already have) to be able to sell your 13" and replace it with a new one once they come out. Otherwise, if you really don't care that much, you're gonna be totally fine with what you're getting. No need to get caught up in all this mess of different people's opinions, more than most people are fine with the current 13" mbp
 
Mrhighdef said:
I have a September 2nd deadline. With the bts promo ending on the 6th and my semester starting on the third, I have no choice but to get the current 13 inch rmbp on that date. Obviously I'm praying for a surprise release before then but it's clearly unlikely
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I wouldn't get stuck on the BTS thing. You'll daily regret not waiting. You also do not NEED a computer for the first weeks of classes. Library provides computers and they are often late models.

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Actual concrete reasons you won't purchase today.

Me? I expect battery life on Mavericks to be eight hours and six has not been enough. I want to leave the power cord at home.
 
ntrigue said:
I wouldn't get stuck on the BTS thing. You'll daily regret not waiting. You also do not NEED a computer for the first weeks of classes. Library provides computers and they are often late models.

True. I'm going into my fourth year however and trust me ill need a machine instantly.

Actual concrete reasons you won't purchase today.

Me? I expect battery life on Mavericks to be eight hours and six has not been enough. I want to leave the power cord at home.
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Well ill upgrade to mavericks as soon as its released. By waiting a little bit it gives me a few more pay checks to save up, but I do have enough saved where I can buy immediately by credit card and not starve trying pay it off. I was thinking about getting the air for the internal spec boosts, but I don't like the tapered design. The black bezel on the rmbp and of course the screen just make it so damn sexy lol. I don't really care for ac wifi yet. The only thing I really feel like I'd be missing out on is the faster pcie ssd. Is it going to be noticeably faster than the current rmbp ssd?
 
VanillaCracker said:
I trust that apple would have higher quality refurbs than other places too, and no doubt they check them before re-selling. You're probably less likely to get a problem with a refurb than you are a new product for that reason...but what makes them a refurb then? Just the fact that they've been returned?

1) Someone buys a 15" rMBP and returns it 6 days later. It has no scratches. It will be sold as a refurb?

2) Someone buys a 15" rMBP, uses it for 2 months (acquires some scratches) and it has some error with colors being messed up on the screen, they replace the logic board, not it, they replace the gpu, not it, so they give the person a new unit. They eventually fix the problem. Will that unit be sold as a refurb too? What about the scratches then?
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In both cases it would be resold as a refurb. Apple replaces all of the physical components of the computers before reselling as a refurb, such as the keyboard and the aluminum body. Therefore there will be no scratches on a refurb. It looks brand new because it is a brand new body. Besides replacing the physical components of the computer, anything that was previously wrong with the computer is also fixed/replaced. You should not be able to tell that it id a refurb because it looks brand new. Like someone said a few posts up, Apple sells these computers as refurbs because legally they can't sell them as new. You will have no problem buying a refurbish MacBook Pro through Apple and it should and will look brand new. Also it comes with a year warranty it is quite a deal considering all the money you are saving.
 
ntrigue said:
Me? I expect battery life on Mavericks to be eight hours and six has not been enough. I want to leave the power cord at home.
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Yeah, the biggest issue with rMBP is that the power cord is inversely proportional to the laptop... To feel even lighter, you could also go to school with a Bermuda short... :D
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phillyfan9090 said:
does apple replace the keyboard buttons for refurbished rMBPs?
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Yeah, see bobbydd21's response. It really is just like getting a brand new computer. The only difference is the box.

I'm not a cheap person, and I upgrade my laptop every year, so I'm not saying this as someone strapped for cash. But there's really no reason not to get a refurb unless, like I said, you're itching for a newly introduced model that simply hasn't had enough months of being "out there" to be offered as a refurb.

Also, keep in mind that Apple is a ShopDiscover partner, so you can save an additional 5% on top by going through that portal and using a Discover card. This helps negate the effect of that pesky sales tax that you don't necessarily incur by going through a third party reseller when buying a "new" model.

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ntrigue said:
Me? I expect battery life on Mavericks to be eight hours and six has not been enough. I want to leave the power cord at home.
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I've not really noticed any battery improvement under Mavericks.
 
nicholastjj said:
the ifs on this thread is pointing to a haswell mbp without a discrete graphic card. say i am using it for cs6 and fcpx, is it going to matter? or will the haswell give it better speeds? thanks for the reply people!
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Fcpx uses OpenCL so the Haswell will provide greatly improved performance
 
john123 said:
I've not really noticed any battery improvement under Mavericks.
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What are you running Mavericks on? I have it running on a 2009 15" 3.06 GHz C2D MBP and I see about 20% more battery life than it was getting on SL. I was getting a little over four hours with SL but now a solid five hours with Mavericks.
 
ValSalva said:
What are you running Mavericks on? I have it running on a 2009 15" 3.06 GHz C2D MBP and I see about 20% more battery life than it was getting on SL. I was getting a little over four hours with SL but now a solid five hours with Mavericks.
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15" Retina
 
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