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Well given....

  • The interest free period on the Discover Card I got back in June (e.g. in anticipation of MBPr release) is about to end.
  • I am still in the process of paying off the truck-tires, NAS, and GPS that I purchased using the card (e.g. given I got tired of waiting for MBPr release and wasting the interest free period).

I'm good with a late October release but, hoping for some surprises vs the what seems to be the expected 15" refresh (e.g. Haswell 5200 iGPU, PCIe, 802.11AC). Maybe a tweaked Intel processor or TB2 would add some future proofing.
 
What about the people who need/want a dGPU if they choose to get rid of it?

That is a good point and one I hadn't considered. I still think it's a year too soon to go iGPU only in the 15" rMBP and it's only rumored. Maybe no pre-announcement is cryptic evidence that the Haswell rMBP will come with an option for a dGPU? ;)
 
You're still worried about the screen after more than a year? Pretty sure the LG screens are just fine now.

Are you suggesting the old screens have somehow lost the image retention/ghosting issue over time? I mentioned I bought a refurb, not new, so these are still old notebooks.
 
That is a good point and one I hadn't considered. I still think it's a year too soon to go iGPU only in the 15" rMBP and it's only rumored. Maybe no pre-announcement is cryptic evidence that the Haswell rMBP will come with an option for a dGPU? ;)

Hmmm, that is possible. But if I'm right, then it's almost certain that there will be no discrete GPU for the 15-inch.
 
Hmmm, that is possible. But if I'm right, then it's almost certain that there will be no discrete GPU for the 15-inch.

By that logic you would be right. Unless Apple thinks that the performance of the iGPU is going to be 'good enough'.

I can see them touting some benchmark that makes the iGPU seem like it's incrementally faster but is much more energy efficient. In that case Apple wouldn't see the need to warn anyone about lack of a dGPU. I hope they don't do that because IMO it's too soon. But it's not out of the realm of possibility.
 
By that logic you would be right. Unless Apple thinks that the performance of the iGPU is going to be 'good enough'.

I can see them touting some benchmark that makes the iGPU seem like it's incrementally faster but is much more energy efficient. In that case Apple wouldn't see the need to warn anyone about lack of a dGPU. I hope they don't do that because IMO it's too soon. But it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Or they could add those extra execution units and cache and say it's better then ever before© AppleInc. :D
 
Unless Apple thinks that the performance of the iGPU is going to be 'good enough'.

It's clear that Apple though the Intel HD 4000 integrated graphics in the 13" Ivy Bridge rMBP were "good enough" to drive 4,096,000 pixels because Apple put it there. The Intel Iris Pro 5200 integrated graphics is more than twice as fast as the 4000 HD graphics, so it stands to reason that Apple think it's "good enough" to drive the 5,184,000 pixels of the 15" rMBP. In other words, more than twice the graphics power is "good enough" to drive 27% more pixels.
 
Or they put the 4950hq in the 13'' rMBP. Not impossible. This debate is only speculation. It's totally irrelevant what the majority thinks or tries to present as logical consequence (poll is 54% for iGPU only). It's fun, but nothing is safe until we have new detailed hints or Apple launches the new rMBPs.
 
Or they put the 4950hq in the 13'' rMBP. Not impossible. This debate is only speculation. It's totally irrelevant what the majority thinks or tries to present as logical consequence (poll is 54% for iGPU only). It's fun, but nothing is safe until we have new detailed hints or Apple launches the new rMBPs.

Well we find out very soon...... Or at the most a month:eek:
 
Are you suggesting the old screens have somehow lost the image retention/ghosting issue over time? I mentioned I bought a refurb, not new, so these are still old notebooks.

There's an extremely good chance that your refurb has a perfectly fine LG screen.
 
There's an extremely good chance that your refurb has a perfectly fine LG screen.

Yeah, the only reason why it seems like a lot of people have IR is because no one will go online, search it about it, and post about it unless they have the problem themselves.

By the way, did I make your poll big enough on the website? It wasn't letting me make it bigger.

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I'm going to miss the Haswell rmbp waiting thread:rolleyes: I know most people won't as basically most people here have been pissed off because Apple didn't release it earlier.
 
Well we find out very soon...... Or at the most a month:eek:

The Haswell MBP announcement and release could come as late as February if Apple cannot amass sufficient stock to keep up with holiday season demand. Apple will not repeat last year's mistake of releasing the new iMac before they had sufficient stock in hand.
 
The Haswell MBP announcement and release could come as late as February if Apple cannot amass sufficient stock to keep up with holiday season demand. Apple will not repeat last year's mistake of releasing the new iMac before they had sufficient stock in hand.

I knew that, I just didn't want to suggest that as the mood in this forum would drop considerably.
 
Yeah, the only reason why it seems like a lot of people have IR is because no one will go online, search it about it, and post about it unless they have the problem themselves.

By the way, did I make your poll big enough on the website? It wasn't letting me make it bigger.

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I'm going to miss the Haswell rmbp waiting thread:rolleyes: I know most people won't as basically most people here have been pissed off because Apple didn't release it earlier.

It looked good to me! ::thumbs up:: And good write up - it's gonna be really interesting to look back after all is said and done!

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Well, I hope you are right. That said, I may end up cancelling my order if they announce the Haswell rMBP this Tuesday.

Roger that - just keep an eye on the screen. At least you have a couple options.
 
Even a february release would not kill my mood. I enjoy arguing with you guys.

I guess mcarling is right. The iMac release last year pissed of a lot of customers, so they would probably delay a rMBP if necessary. But it's really awkward, that Apple has put themselves in a position this year, where it would make sense to release everything as soon as possible. The buyers guide is nearly completely red and their sales already started to fall. I don't know who is the genius, who thought that it would be a good idea to release everything in the fall.
 
It looked good to me! ::thumbs up:: And good write up - it's gonna be really interesting to look back after all is said and done!

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Roger that - just keep an eye on the screen. At least you have a couple options.

Thanks, it will be very interesting to look back.
 
I don't know who is the genius, who thought that it would be a good idea to release everything in the fall.

Agreed. Tim Cook did say they plan on releasing all throughout 2014 so that will be better.

As far as the LG screen retention is concerned...the revised panel in the 2013 "bump" doesn't seem to have it from what I can tell. But the display's color still seems a bit off. And, also, important —*the viewing angles aren't that great for an IPS panel.
 
Oppenheimer said Apple is on track to have a "very busy fall"..

I hope that means more than iPhone and Mac Pro by October.
 
I don't know who is the genius, who thought that it would be a good idea to release everything in the fall.

That would be Intel. ;) Ok, Intel are not responsible for the iOS products, but the fall release is scheduled around the holiday season demand.
 
Someone thinks there is any chances we'll see new Haswell MBP the next Tuesday? My heart tells me there is some chances but my brain says they will be released on October... What do you think? I mean has been never happened Apple releases new Macbook before the release of new OS X?
 
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