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thepoynt said:
I'm REALLY hoping for something about rMBP tomorrow, even if it's just an announcement. They could announce rMBP stuff in just a few minutes and say "shipping now" or "shipping next month" or the like. Just SOMETHING!
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Here's what they teach you in CEO school: Never announce a new product while you are still selling old product. (It's called, The Osborne Effect).

I give up. :(
 
Chris5488 said:
I really don't understand all you Iris-Pro-fanboys, I really don't. :(
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That's because they're idiots who don't even realise that for light use the dGPU isn't turned on, so Iris Pro doesn't even offer better battery life - the sole upside they're selling.

What they want is a 13" Air, I don't know why they're in the MBP thread, hoping that the machine is gimped for the people that actually need it - they don't need a quad core CPU, or 16Gb of RAM let alone the dGPU for anything they do.

Iris Pro is a GREAT option for the 13. In the 15 it will result in slower CPU, less RAM (1Gb reserved for graphics), worse graphics and for what gain? Not better battery, since you can run off integrated even with a dGPU for that. So basically no benefit whatsoever, and lots of drawbacks. Great idea guys.

If you want to browse the internet for 12 hours get a MBA or an iPad - Apple has designed the perfect products for you, stop fooling yourself into thinking you need a MBP for that.
 
McFreggle said:
Oh my God! There's a hidden message!
Look what I discovered! When you mirror the image, the sign above the door isn't showing the address, but in stead there's a secret coded message!
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If it's backwards, does it really mean that the rMBP is not coming?
 
The Leafs Fan said:
Nope, someone beat me to the punch of putting the link though:eek: http://store.apple.com/ca/mac/family/mac-pro
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You Canucks are different. That's were the U.S. dumps old stock. :D

playerhadyn said:
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http://store.apple.com/us/mac/family/mac-pro
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My mistake.

I was looking at this:

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Here's my theory: Apple received so much backlash from the lack of updates regarding the Mac Pro, they were forced to show their hand lest the heavy pro users abandoned them completely.
 
If new rMBPs pop up in the store tomorrow, my wallet is going to scream bloody murder as I click "Checkout".
 
rainbowsofwhite said:
It's UGLY.
No attention to detail at all.
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To each their own... personally I love the look. But I use Mac OS for a reason... because it's beautiful, simple, and I enjoy using it. I use Windows all day at work, the last thing I want to do is come home and reboot... ;)
 
rainbowsofwhite said:
It's UGLY.
No attention to detail at all.
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I looked at that and the Yoga but neither have the monitor connectivity out the box that I'm looking for. Looking to drive 2x 27" or 30" monitors preferably without a dock (since I'd have to buy 2 of them).

Guess we'll see what the Surface Pro 2 + dock look like since that event is Sept 23 and the MBP won't drop till October anyways (heh heh :p)
 
Manic Mouse said:
That's because they're idiots who don't even realise that for light use the dGPU isn't turned on, so Iris Pro doesn't even offer better battery life - the sole upside they're selling.

What they want is a 13" Air, I don't know why they're in the MBP thread, hoping that the machine is gimped for the people that actually need it - they don't need a quad core CPU, or 16Gb of RAM let alone the dGPU for anything they do.

Iris Pro is a GREAT option for the 13. In the 15 it will result in slower CPU, less RAM (1Gb reserved for graphics), worse graphics and for what gain? Not better battery, since you can run off integrated even with a dGPU for that. So basically no benefit whatsoever, and lots of drawbacks. Great idea guys.

If you want to browse the internet for 12 hours get a MBA or an iPad - Apple has designed the perfect products for you, stop fooling yourself into thinking you need a MBP for that.
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I'm one of those "Iris Pro fanboys" and I'm okay with it because my current MBP switches to the dGPU way too often. It would be disappointing if that were the only option though. I have heard that the GPU switching is better on later MBPs, so I dunno.
 
tmiw said:
I'm one of those "Iris Pro fanboys" and I'm okay with it because my current MBP switches to the dGPU way too often. It would be disappointing if that were the only option though. I have heard that the GPU switching is better on later MBPs, so I dunno.
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I think that the unreliable dGPU switching might be one of the reasons Apple wants the dGPU gone entirely. As I understand it, the dGPU switch works using:
-An application list (so some apps keep the dGPU on even when they're in the background doing nothing.
-How the application is interacting with the OS X SDK (so some apps can run the dGPU even when it wasn't the author's intent due to bad coding).
-Full screen OpenGL applications, like games, always trigger the dGPU as far as I know (I assume this is technically related to the previous point).

Obviously it's not optimal in a lot of cases. You could use the current GPU load (say, switch to dGPU if the iGPU is hitting its limits) but that could also be highly undesirable. Maybe the iGPU is running at capacity but you're getting decent performance. Maybe you're on battery and you're okay with 25 fps vs. using more power.

I'm not saying I wouldn't still want a dGPU in the 15" rMBP, just trying to provide some rationalization for why they might want to remove it. Personally I'd put the effort into improving the switching mechanism, even if it meant allowing direct user control of which GPU is in use (though this is very un-Apple).
 
Krazy Bill said:
You Canucks are different. That's were the U.S. dumps old stock. :D



My mistake.

I was looking at this:

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Here's my theory: Apple received so much backlash from the lack of updates regarding the Mac Pro, they were forced to show their hand lest the heavy pro users abandoned them completely.
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I was looking at that too for a bit until I went on the store:rolleyes: Apple can make the stock of their products disappear pretty quickly, I believe their was something in Steve Jobs biography about this, but I don't remember what it said. Apple didn't give a ******* when everyone complained last year, why would they care this year? They showed it because they wanted to build up anticipation and they wanted people to get adjusted to the idea of a basically non-expandable computer in a trash can that has a lot of thunderbolt 2 ports. And perhaps they wanted computer accessory companies to get their products ready for thunderbolt 2. In the rmbp's case, Apple perhaps also wants to build anticipation for a machine they wanted to release in September, but due to manufacturing/stockpiling parts problems ( IGZO and special Iris Pros:)), they had to release at a later date. I don't believe Apple would have even held off the Mac Pro release if they had everything available in time for WWDC. And announcing it before the launch would actually follow in the footsteps of the Mac Pro, both being in Apple's mind "Pro" machines. The time between the announcement and the launch for the rmbp would be a lot smaller, showing that the update will be a lot less significant, all the while keeping inline with the "Pro" factor. It wouldn't be too hard to even just sell of the remaining 15-inch rmbps, since perhaps some people would want the dgpu. They probably planned ahead with the 13-inch, keeping it in relatively low stock for a month, but making sure it is enough to meet the Amazon and other tech retailers"In stock" requirements.
 
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Atomic Walrus said:
I'd put the effort into improving the switching mechanism, even if it meant allowing direct user control of which GPU is in use (though this is very un-Apple).
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gfxCardStatus worked pretty well for a while until an update made it a lot less effective. But maybe it was never effective in the first place.
 
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