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With this delay of approx. 4 months between the mba and the (r)mbp I think Apple will redesign or strongly improve the (r)mbp a second time since last years rmbp release.
Doubtful. Parts leaks are rampant these days and there's been no blurry pics on the front page indicating any MBP redesign. Of course, as much attention as the Mac line gets these days it's entirely possible nobody's bothered to share.
 
With this delay of approx. 4 months between the mba and the (r)mbp I think Apple will redesign or strongly improve the (r)mbp a second time since last years rmbp release. A simple change of the cpu and thus an upgraded igpu will be more than incomprehensible and hard to explain...

That's what I've been saying since June also.
That i actually wished that the rMBP wouldn't come until October.
Because I really do think that if it takes that long it would get much bigger upgrades then just CPU/GPU/SSD/WiFi.
The longer it takes the more likely i believe that we will see much more.
Because if those where the only upgrades it would probably already be out and could have been a silent upgrade.
But now it looks more and more like a presentation on an October event.
And we could be lucky and see things like: IGZO, re-design, TB2 or other stuff.

If it only gets the same upgrade as the Air, I really cant see why its been taking so long.
 
If it only gets the same upgrade as the Air, I really cant see why its been taking so long.

Because they want to present it with maverick and, perhaps, because they have some unexpected high stocks left to finish before the upgrade.

Finally because they are trying to drop the price or keeping a fixed price with an higher SSD capacity.

Marketing or commercial reasons only IMHO
 
I wonder if they are partially holding it back so long so they have time to optimise their software e.g. Aperture, LogicPro, Final Cut Pro, for Iris? Could be a good selling point - yes the gaming performance may have taken a hit, but iris is amazing for parallel processing tasks, if I understand correctly?

Although based on intel yesterday, maybe they're just waiting for Broadwell lol
 
That's what I've been saying since June also.
That i actually wished that the rMBP wouldn't come until October.
Because I really do think that if it takes that long it would get much bigger upgrades then just CPU/GPU/SSD/WiFi.
The longer it takes the more likely i believe that we will see much more.
Because if those where the only upgrades it would probably already be out and could have been a silent upgrade.
But now it looks more and more like a presentation on an October event.
And we could be lucky and see things like: IGZO, re-design, TB2 or other stuff.

If it only gets the same upgrade as the Air, I really cant see why its been taking so long.

I guess that they have overestimated the demand of rMBP and thus have still too high stocks.

If you are right with your estimation, I guess they do the haswell update + sell the useless TB2 as "the next generation of notebooks". It will take again some 2 years and you still won't find any suitable and payable hardware for TB2.

That's my opinion. Anyway I wish they realease haswell rMBP asap!
 
... That has a 24GB SSD, a 1080P display, and it weighs 6lbs. I would not consider that an rMBP competitor.

So if you give a Chromebook a big SSD, you'd consider that a rMBP competitor?

What would you say a high-end laptop computer should have? What sets a "pro" model apart from a more mainstream consumer model? Should it have a lot of storage capacity? Several USB ports? Plenty of expandability? A powerful graphics chip? Or are you willing to give all that up (and more) in return for an ultra-hi-res display, and still pay more than $2000 for it?

(Disclaimer: I'm just idly complaining here while I wait for a build to finish ... on my 2010 MacBook Pro that I upgraded with an SSD.)
 
As far as I remind Apple used to slightly increase the HDD dimension every macbook refresh (years ago we went from 128 to 160 to 256 to 320 to 500gb in the base model). Given the SSD descending price it looks likely that in this or in future updates we will observe a similar trend. Even moving from 128 to 160 will make a big difference for me.

You make a good point. I had been thinking of the entry-level SSD capacity as a binary choice between 128GB and 256GB but, as you correctly point out, there are also the possibilities of 160GB or 192GB, for example.
 
Not sure about the new Mac Pro but I ordered a refurb last week was top of the line Mac Pro retina for 2700 from online store then came across your thread , being new to macs I figured if there's going to be a new model it would be best to hold on a bit longer so I took it back to my closest Michigan apple store I talked to one of the guys working there about the refresh he said that they heard there was going to be a haswell model but as far as he knew the rest of the components were going to be the same no major updates.. But could also be keeping it a secret ?
 
Not sure about the new Mac Pro but I ordered a refurb last week was top of the line Mac Pro retina for 2700 from online store then came across your thread , being new to macs I figured if there's going to be a new model it would be best to hold on a bit longer so I took it back to my closest Michigan apple store I talked to one of the guys working there about the refresh he said that they heard there was going to be a haswell model but as far as he knew the rest of the components were going to be the same no major updates.. But could also be keeping it a secret ?

Regardless of what the update brings, $2700 is a lot of money and unless you absolutely need it right now, it's wise to just wait until October.

If $2700 is not a lot of money to you, well, who cares what Haswell brings, you can buy it then anyway. :D
 
No not rich just sold my windows desktop and laptop so only got my iPhone 5 lol need something but will wait till October and see what laptop, notebooks are on the market but my first choice this time will be a Mac Pro should the new update be out then :)
 
Hello guys,

I wonder if the price of low end haswell mbp will goes up from $1199 or not.
Since this is a huge update(?) and cmpb seems to be phased out, is it possible to mark the price from $1499? :rolleyes:
 
Maybe the rMBP got delayed because Apple realized the Iris Pro still doesn't have acceptable GPU performance and they need to put that nVidia GPU in after all? ;)
 
Hello guys,

I wonder if the price of low end haswell mbp will goes up from $1199 or not.
Since this is a huge update(?) and cmpb seems to be phased out, is it possible to mark the price from $1499? :rolleyes:
They may not be phased out just yet. Apple could choose to keep the cMBP's for one more year and just not update them.
 
So if you give a Chromebook a big SSD, you'd consider that a rMBP competitor?

What would you say a high-end laptop computer should have? What sets a "pro" model apart from a more mainstream consumer model? Should it have a lot of storage capacity? Several USB ports? Plenty of expandability? A powerful graphics chip? Or are you willing to give all that up (and more) in return for an ultra-hi-res display, and still pay more than $2000 for it?

(Disclaimer: I'm just idly complaining here while I wait for a build to finish ... on my 2010 MacBook Pro that I upgraded with an SSD.)

They're not competitors because you're comparing a luxury car to a base model pickup truck. Yeah, the truck gets more work done (maybe, depends on what you do), but luxury car owners don't consider it a competitor.

The "pro" name is a nod to Apple's past at this point, nothing more. Apple makes two kinds of laptops (sure, 3, but the cMBP is done):
-Macbook Light (brand name "Air")
-Macbook (brand name "Pro")

Should there be a 3rd option in there, the 17" Macbook as the real "pro" option? Probably; I have a 2010 17" MBP which I love, but only as long as I don't need to take it too many places in a day. Unfortunately my laptop needs have changed as my life's become way more mobile.

I am also still willing to pay for certain "luxury car" features like the high quality screen and the build quality. In fact I probably now perfectly represent Apple's target market: Has some money to spend, wants a powerful premium laptop in a very mobile form (basically low weight and high battery life).
 
Maybe the rMBP got delayed because Apple realized the Iris Pro still doesn't have acceptable GPU performance and they need to put that nVidia GPU in after all? ;)

Maybe your funny comment is not totally wrong. Does anybody know from an Iris 5200 pro powered notebook, that has been launched? I mean the anandtech test goes back to june. And even at the IDF 2013 this week Gigabyte said their Iris Pro Mini PC with 4570r will be released in december.
 
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They're not competitors because you're comparing a luxury car to a base model pickup truck. Yeah, the truck gets more work done (maybe, depends on what you do), but luxury car owners don't consider it a competitor.

Mm, good point. And Mac laptops are making sacrifices to get that long battery life and low weight so that they fit the 'luxury' demographic.

I guess I'm looking for a high-end pickup-truck kind of laptop - the go-anywhere do-anything computer that's flexible enough for me to throw at any task. Remember the days of "road warrior" laptops? Heavy. Great big hard drive. Lots of ports and slots. Decent battery life, and then you could throw another battery or two into your bag when you're on the road. I miss the days of the Pismos and Lombards and WallStreets. I want a Mac laptop like that, not the too-thin-for-Ethernet things we're seeing these days.
 
Hi guys!!!

Just come for what's about in your minds wether it's going to have a keynote on october or not

Don't really asking for know if there will be release of rMBP or not. But the only thing that should matter right now is if we're going to have some kinda presentarion in october because there are too much people advertising there will not be more release until summer 2014 (so in that case i'd buy actual rMBP)

Edit: and a little point of vue...bearing in mind there's no macbook pro presentation (like it was with mac pro or osx maverick); should i think there won't be a release for macbook pro and october is just the definitive launch for mac pro and osx mavericks? Think it will....
And because of it....i'm starting think i'm losing time waiting for october :S
WTF are you doing Tim Cook? Company never stop of losing clients and money since you were in charge and the last **** just a few days agos with the iphone where all international press laughs over you.
 
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Hi guys!!!

Just come for what's about in your minds wether it's going to have a keynote on october or not

Don't really asking for know if there will be release of rMBP or not. But the only thing that should matter right now is if we're going to have some kinda presentarion in october because there are too much people advertising there will not be more release until summer 2014 (so in that case i'd buy actual rMBP)
There will be a presentation in October, almost certainly featuring new iPads at a minimum. It's been alluded to by both John Gruber (http://daringfireball.net) and Jim Dalrymple (http://www.loopinsight.com) who both have good sources at Apple.
 
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