Welcome! I'd recommend going through this thread. It has all the answers to your questions.
I already read the last 15 pages - but you don't expect me to read EVERYTHING right?
that's a whole lot of reading Was just asking for fun.
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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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I already read the last 15 pages - but you don't expect me to read EVERYTHING right?
that's a whole lot of reading Was just asking for fun.
I already read the last 15 pages - but you don't expect me to read EVERYTHING right?
I hear ya,
but when there's 100s of people asking the same questions that have been answered 100s of times, well, you get the idea.. 
for the people looking for IGZO news, all the workstations should have it
if I remember right the T series from thinkpad should have it as well.
Some are selling right now, the others will be coming in the next months, they were announced today and yesterday
if I remember right the T series from thinkpad should have it as well.
Some are selling right now, the others will be coming in the next months, they were announced today and yesterday
Yeah, you really should read the whole thread, I have and I've only started participating in the conversation very recently. It's very interesting to read the different opinions of the numerous people participating in this thread. What's even more interesting is how the people who are participating in the thread now, we're not the ones who participated at the beginning. I guess those guys couldn't handle the wait or something. Or they just got bored of the thread. Either way it's a pretty good read, so you should check it out, or at least skim through it.Hey Guys! I'm just joining the wait for the rMBP Haswell ..and I had a question for you guys.. two actually.
What would you LIKE to see in improvements for the 13" and 15" models
aaandd....
What do you THINK will be improved in the rMBP 13" and 15" ? Just for fun, since we have to wait and all..
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Yeah it would be better just to strike fear into our hearts with the possibility of a 2014 launch
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Look at this article from Ars Technica on the mountain lion 10.8.5 update:
http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/apple/~3/m8wbXzfDe00/story01.htm
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I'm still here. It's just so close to release that there's no reason to speculate much anymore. So I refrain from trying to further the conversation.
I do like M&M's comment about IGZO though
So of course I post about wanting to retire my current MBP and it decides to get the folder of death. Hurry it up, Apple!!
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I'm still here. It's just so close to release that there's no reason to speculate much anymore. So I refrain from trying to further the conversation.
I do like M&M's comment about IGZO though
Yeah, I think a slick new IGZO display with a thinner bezel would make the potential shift to an iGPU-only configuration a lot easier to swallow for many of us.
Unfortunately, I also suspect this is exactly the kind of juicy information that would have been picked up on and leaked by 'factory insiders' if it were going to happen in the next month or two. I'm not optimistic.
Considering the more noticeable performance boost, better iGPU and increased likelihood of IGZO displays being added to the Broadwell Macs, I'm really starting to feel like I picked the wrong year to have my MBP stolen.
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I'm still here. It's just so close to release that there's no reason to speculate much anymore. So I refrain from trying to further the conversation.
I do like M&M's comment about IGZO though
Well yeah, you're the one outlier. IGZO I think is reaching the productions goals that Apple wants it to meet. Although I personally believe that Apple wouldn't switch display technologies two years in a row. Last year we got retina, this year we would get IGZO. It would seem very unlikely, because I would think they would wait until a year after the yields improve for the IGZO displays, as they probably don't want to get burned by manufacturing inconsistencies two years in a row.
I'm sure others are still reading, just the commenting has dropped.
Yeah it seems a bit risky for Apple to get IGZO out there this year, but I think it's very possible. It's not the same kind of game as it was changing resolutions. Changing res. takes time for software to adapt. The risk they'd be taking this time around would be another issue like they had with the LG displays, being miscolored or poor contrast (although IGZO is supposed to have better contrast - I think) or something like that, which would be unexpected.
I think it's possible because 1) If I remember correctly from sometime 12-14 months ago it was mentioned that Apple was getting a lockdown on early adapting IGZO (this was like like the summer before iPhone 5's release - I think), so that would be consistent to what we're seeing now. It would mean, that if other competitors are starting to throw out IGZO, apple could already have a good yield, themselves. And 2) It would fit their ethos for the mac line up this year, with haswell. Battery life.
Just food for thought, I like to analyze.
This was my thought too. Releasing a rMBP with Haswell+Mavericks+IGZO would make it so Apple could actually get a significant boost in battery life.
Well I was talking about commenting, not people just reading it. IGZO is perhaps not as big of a change as moving to a higher res, but we still really don't know what issues IGZO displays have in store for us once their mass produced. 1. Well many of the recent rumours on the retina MacBook Pros have been wrong so far, especially when it comes to Ming-chi Kuo
What what make us think that rumour is any different? 2. I can't really argue with that because it's the one point that I keep thinking of whenever I'm contemplating about Apple releasing an IGZO display rmbp. Yeah analyzing is fun, but everything in moderation
I'm still here. It's just so close to release that there's no reason to speculate much anymore. So I refrain from trying to further the conversation.
I do like M&M's comment about IGZO though
MM is from my name, not the chocolate, though I like that piece of coloured fat
anyway, they were announced yesterday so we have a lot of notebooks that use IGZO now, toshiba kirabook, the asus zenbook ux301, hp envy spectre 14 the Z workstation range, except the 17 that only comes with the simple display or the much better eye catching dream colour 2, thinkpad T440p, T540p, w540, dell m3800
and I think we will have more in the future, given that dell haven't launched yet their xps line, we are still missing some from asus, we still have toshiba and LG to launch some ultrabooks
now we just need windows to actually support those DPI settings and those lazy developers for windows to create something that is actually usable with those settings
then we can all use high DPI displays in any environment with impunity
Hi Guys.
I bought a MacBook air 13" 128gb haswell two days ago from the apple store. Should I return it and wait for the MacBook Pro?
I used to have the $2799 MBP Retina 15" early 2013 model. I sold that for 2.2k recently on craigslist because I wanted haswell.
Now I miss the Retina screen lol. Why dont they make MB Airs with Retina
I bought a MacBook air 13" 128gb haswell two days ago from the apple store. Should I return it and wait for the MacBook Pro?
I used to have the $2799 MBP Retina 15" early 2013 model. I sold that for 2.2k recently on craigslist because I wanted haswell.
Now I miss the Retina screen lol. Why dont they make MB Airs with Retina
Macmall price drops...could be a sign.
http://www.macmall.com/p/Apple-MacBook Pro/product~dpno~9530109~pdp.ibeghdh
This same thing was $100 more yesterday. Could mean they're trying to kill off some stock, no?
If not, its the best 'authorized' and 'tax free' deal I have seen yet on rMBP.
Thoughts? I defer to y'all.
http://www.macmall.com/p/Apple-MacBook Pro/product~dpno~9530109~pdp.ibeghdh
This same thing was $100 more yesterday. Could mean they're trying to kill off some stock, no?
If not, its the best 'authorized' and 'tax free' deal I have seen yet on rMBP.
Thoughts? I defer to y'all.
I must admit I'm not too hopeful about IGZO. Apple usually starts with iOS devices and works their way up to Macs, right? IPS and retina come to mind imediately. It seems to make sense to start with smaller devices.
Then again I could see the argument that iOS devices have too high of a demand
Yeep. It's situations like this, where everything has the potential to fall into place perfectly, that sometimes I just assume surely apple would take advantage of it all, and make it all happen. They could get the most out of the haswell situation (only low performance boost, but better efficiency/battery life) by releasing a more efficient software at launch, and then also add an IGZO display to the mix to really ensure maximum battery life (because it's been discussed haswell can only do so much with a retina screen laptop). With this being done, it would fall into place with the MBA's theme (and haswell) this year of having outstanding battery life. I have to keep myself in check though, because I almost get OCD narrow minded thinking about it. I realize things don't aren't always possible just because it's a perfect situation. I feel like we're probably off the mark
With that out of the way, doesn't it still seem odd...that they'd wait until late October to refresh the rMBP if they had done the MBA in June, assuming everything is the same? I mean, it can't really be Haswell yields..since the MBA is out and selling fine. It's not likely to be a redesign (even so, that wouldn't hold it back). It could really only be the screen. And that means either 1) They were having problems manufacturing the retina displays...which is more likely to be a first year problem, not second. Or 2) They were/are waiting on proper yields for IGZO, which is why it was pushed from June to October. Or am I missing something?
I like to err on the side of caution too, but what else could have pushed it back to October?
IGZO is perhaps not as big of a change as moving to a higher res, but we still really don't know what issues IGZO displays have in store for us once their mass produced. 1. Well many of the recent rumours on the retina MacBook Pros have been wrong so far, especially when it comes to Ming-chi Kuo
Idk if that really discredits it though. If people have the mindset that this rumor has about a 80% chance of being wrong....and an 80% chance of being right, then they're not doing the analyzing correctly lol. You can at least use rumors to determine the future, if it doesn't exactly show up in the immediate upcoming product. But yeah, lots of stuff is uncertain this time around it would seem. Basically just iPad Mini 2, and rMBP 15"
. Both of which I'm looking to get hahaWith that out of the way, doesn't it still seem odd...that they'd wait until late October to refresh the rMBP if they had done the MBA in June, assuming everything is the same? I mean, it can't really be Haswell yields..since the MBA is out and selling fine. It's not likely to be a redesign (even so, that wouldn't hold it back). It could really only be the screen. And that means either 1) They were having problems manufacturing the retina displays...which is more likely to be a first year problem, not second. Or 2) They were/are waiting on proper yields for IGZO, which is why it was pushed from June to October. Or am I missing something?
I like to err on the side of caution too, but what else could have pushed it back to October?
Hahahaha sorry. I could have sworn that's what your name was. Must've been something that clicked when I first read your name, and I never gave it a second thought in order to correct it.
Apple Store down.
They better have NO new MBPs when it's back.
Yeah indeed. I don't want a stealth update now.
When we've waited so long, I want an update that matters. One that is announced at an event.
Nonetheless I'll be happy like a child when they DO update silently. :-D
They better have NO new MBPs when it's back.
Yeah indeed. I don't want a stealth update now.
When we've waited so long, I want an update that matters. One that is announced at an event.
Nonetheless I'll be happy like a child when they DO update silently. :-D
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Haha calm down, it's like no one realizes that there were 2 new iPhones announced 2 days ago. the iPhone 5C goes up for pre-order at midnight. Or, at 3am East coast time.
Oh I know it's for the 5c. But they surprise you when you least expect it.
The iPhone 5C is also the new MacBook Pro.
Surprise!
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