Haswell is starting to look like old tech
Seriously... I'm thinking about getting the Feb 2013 rMBP after the Haswell one comes out so it's cheaper, then selling it when the Broadwell rMBP comes out...
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Seriously... I'm thinking about getting the Feb 2013 rMBP after the Haswell one comes out so it's cheaper, then selling it when the Broadwell rMBP comes out...
Haswell is starting to look like old tech
I think that Haswell was old tech the moment it was introduced in the MBA. I was severely underwhelmed by the performance increase over the 2012 MBA. An rMBP is supposed to be a "pro" computer and the Haswell chips just do not offer any significant improvements over the last generation CPUs. Yes, battery life is very important but IMO the potential buyers for the rMBP are looking for fast processors, high-end GPUs, as much RAM as possible and larger SSDs.
Perhaps Apple recognizes this and is waiting for the right components to be put together for this purpose.
An external Superdrive is available from Apple for $79(?). Apple doesn't have much incentive to try to stuff one in the MBP's, especially when there's a bunch of higher priority stuff to include while maintaining or further reducing thickness.
Same here. I have a 15" and just want the 13" form factor. The 13" is just nicer on the lap, on the road, in the bed...
My dream 13" would have a quad core CPU, 16 GB RAM and a 1 TB SSD and the IGZO display same form factor or a bit thinner then today. It clearly come true one day but I guess not this October...
Same here. I just bought the 15.4'' rMBP Feb 2013 model. I plan to use this till broadwell. Haswell just seems like a minor stepping stone (battery life improvements mainly, and I don't really need more than the 7 hours offered currently, anyways). If you are doing heavy work, and plan to buy the feb 2013 rMBP, I would advise the 15'' over the 13''. The hd 4000 is pretty weak, but good enough for light usage.
However, if Apple uses a dGPU and/or IGZO in their haswell models, I may reconsider.
I'm afraid we'll never see a spinning mechanical HDD in a new MBP ever again. Everything new is going to be SSD.
That empty space is weird. I guess it's all about location. It seems like Apple should have stuck some RAM there to make a BTO for 16GB. But RAM just can't be stuck anywhere. I'm surprised Apple didn't try to fit a little extra battery module in that spot
I'm afraid we'll never see a spinning mechanical HDD in a new MBP ever again. Everything new is going to be SSD.
That empty space is weird. I guess it's all about location. It seems like Apple should have stuck some RAM there to make a BTO for 16GB. But RAM just can't be stuck anywhere. I'm surprised Apple didn't try to fit a little extra battery module in that spot
I wonder if someone will come out with a good use for that space...... a second 768GB SSD drive would be nice on my 13 inch rMBP
Apple isn't going to bother with Fusion Drives anymore. It's all SSDs now. As it should be.
I didn't meant an hybrid drive, but rather an assembly where the single SSD port can be replaced by 2 SSD ports, so you can install more than one SSD card.
Haswell is starting to look like old tech
All technology is old before they get the bugs out. I'd rather have technology that is old and bug-free than new and buggy.
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Haswell is starting to look like old tech
This is a ridiculous wait to be honest.
I wonder if someone will come out with a good use for that space...... a second 768GB SSD drive would be nice on my 13 inch rMBP
Now that would be a good use for the space. Those PCIe SSD's are pretty small. All they'd need to do would be to run a cable...
That space is for the finger print sensor?
At some point in the future I could see this being a possibility (whether or not that happens with this update still remains to be seen).
I think the only hope for what the "pro" market is looking for (aside from time eventually making power efficiency so good that we don't need to pick between weight/battery and performance) is a return of the 17" as the top end ultimate Macbook. Its form factor already makes it a less portable option, so keeping the weight relatively high by jamming everything into it is less of a problem.
Apple knows that this is an extremely small market sector. The big target is a more general user who wants high performance levels in the most portable form possible.
A lot of "professionals" will indeed fall into this category. Most people don't professionally edit video or produce music or visual art. Serious computational tasks have reached a level where even a powerful desktop workstation is no longer where this work is done; These things are offloaded onto cluster supercomputers at the professional and research levels.
Obviously they want to continue improving performance, but portability is the more immediate priority if you want to continue selling machines at a relevant volume.
Macbook pro with Touch ID?
Hey guys,
I was wondering how probable you think it would be to see the new Macbook pro retina refresh with the all new Touch ID tech that just came out on the iPhone 5s.
Do you think we'll have to wait for October 2013 or rather mid 2014 for the fingerprint sensor to be be implemented?
All answers are greatly appreciated.
Hey guys,
I was wondering how probable you think it would be to see the new Macbook pro retina refresh with the all new Touch ID tech that just came out on the iPhone 5s.
Do you think we'll have to wait for October 2013 or rather mid 2014 for the fingerprint sensor to be be implemented?
All answers are greatly appreciated.
I think there's a zero percent chance of that happening this year. Apple will have its hands full manufacturing enough of these sensors just for the 5S.
Won't happen on the 20th. If we are lucky it will be the 24th. The BTS peeps have until the 20th to return their products. The next day is a Saturday. Tues the 24th looks like a prime candidate
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Same here. Most likely going to have this laptop for 4-5 years. after that, get a new one and give this baby to my mom. But I doubt I'll need more than 8GB of RAM for my usage (Art Major, we use a lot of Adobe Products and Final Cut Pro). And there's nothing wrong about thinking about your major in high school.
You say you will have the machine for 4-5 years but you doubt you'll need more than 8 gigs...Why roll the dice on something that you can't fix if you're wrong? In the next five years you don't know the possible memory requirements that the next 5 iterations of the OX software demand. Also-Who knows what you'll get into in that time. You're a high school student, in five years for all you know you could be an assistant film editor. Life changes from high school to early twenties. Future proof is the point I am making.
If you're expecting Broadwell to bring a "real performance bump" then you will be sadly disappointed as Broadwell is not that kind of update. It is a die shrink of Haswell just like Ivy Bridge was a die shrink of Sandy Bridge.
Haswell itself was the performance update to Sandy + Ivy. You'll need to wait until Skylake before you get a substantial performance increase over Haswell.
I know this sounds crazy to people because everyone is underwhelmed by Haswells performance but you shouldn't be really. The MacBook Air with Haswell is like what almost 1GHz lower in clock rate than the old Ivy Bridge chip it replaces but matches it in performance. It was Apples choice to put that slower Haswell chip in the MacBook Air because they wanted all day battery life. If they had kept the battery life the same they could have stuck a 2.3GHz Haswell CPU in there and boosted computational performance 20-25% which is substantial in my opinion.
Now this is where things get interesting, the Haswell Retina MacBook Pro will not be using a low power part, Apple won't be using something with a really low clock speed like they have done in the Airs. So this update won't really be that underwhelming we can expect to see around 20-25% CPU performance increase in the same clock speeds but we'll still see idle and average power consumption improvements.
For me I don't really care about the CPU, anything they put in is fine I just want a second generation product (not counting the early 2013 minor spec bump as a 2nd generation anything). The first gen had a few issues that made me stay away and it would be nice to get the new PCIe SSD, 802.11ac and so on.
No. No no no no no!
The obvious problem with dislocating the Touch-ID device from the computer is exposing the validation mechanism to man-in-the-middle (or maybe device-in-the-middle) attacks. If the path between the fingerprint and its validation has external wires, you can count on the fact that those wires will be hacked. You can never eliminate that threat, but you can do a pretty darn good job minimizing it -- by having the Touch ID device firmly installed. Right. On. The. Computer.
If you think it's unreasonable, you need to say why.
A standard means of doing protection on all my computers makes huge sense. AAPL can control that experience by having the authentication work the same way in Safari on both platforms. Also, iOS developers using the inevitable Touch ID APIs will have a perfect way to emulate that validation when developing on Mac computers.
You fail to understand my two points:
1. A universal way of performing validation via Touch ID the same way on all my computers makes huge sense. A side-benefit is allowing developers a way to emulate Touch ID validation during their dev cycle.
2. If you're going to choose the first platform for Mac deployment, the Mac Pro makes big sense:
2a: As you note, volume of computers is low. You are only going to have a small impact on the available number of Touch ID devices.
2b: Mac Pro manufacture is happening in the US. It's far easier for AAPL to coordinate the deployment and work with the manufacturing lines while maintaining secrecy.
Again, if you think this is unreasonable, you need to explain your reasoning for that conjecture.
So where are we at with next logical prediction for Haswell refresh/update for rMBPs?
I hear dates suggesting the 24th, 21st, etc...are these september dates or october dates?
I hear dates suggesting the 24th, 21st, etc...are these september dates or october dates?
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