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I bought INTC in 1983, CSCO in 1989 (right after the IPO and before the first of ten 2-for-1 splits), and AAPL in 1997 on the day Steve became iCEO (for less than $4/share, split adjusted). I also bought MSFT puts the day the stock peaked in the $120s before Judge Jackson ordered the break up of Microsoft. If you've done better, then I would be happy to read your advice.

Those are some pretty good stock options you got there. Have you ever sold any of those stocks?
 

The HP Haswell Chromebook will come with a massive 16GB SSD (beat that, Apple!) and USB 2.0 ports!!! Wow! How exciting!!!

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HP claim that it will be available for the holiday season. That gives us one more data point about the availability of Haswell chips which may be suitable for at least some MBP models.

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would Apple really release Mavericks without their rMBP's updated...?

Apple will release Mavericks when Mavericks is ready to be released. It has very little to do with when new Macs might be ready to be released. Apple won't hold up any releases by more than a few days for the sake of releasing things together.

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Those are some pretty good stock options you got there. Have you ever sold any of those stocks?

Yes.
 
Coming from the days of 802.11n, core 2 duo, and spinning media those all sound pretty good. But I know better than to buy a first gen machine, and I didn't need a new machine in June. I also considered just replacing my MBP with a cMBP, but I have to learn to let go of old tech. So I continue to begrudgingly wait for Haswell.

I'm also an entitled, suburban college kid who needs to convince my parents that anything less than solid state and an i5 just doesn't cut it in 2013. But at least I understand that asking $1700+ for something that might last 3-4 years is a lot. So I'm saving a little from my part-time job.

Yep, the begrudge is real. I learned to stop trying to convince my parents a long time ago. I just work my ass off over the summer and winter, and then pray I have enough money to pay for my cell phone and food throughout the year, lol ;)

It helps working in an office. $16 an hour treats you right, as a college kid anyway.
 
I honestly think having a fingerprint reader on the Mac Pro is totally stupid. At least if its located on the computer it self [sic].

I honestly think you don't understand the risks of man-in-the-middle attacks on this security/authentication subsystem. Connecting the Touch ID sensor to the device validating the print with USB/TB/wireless is, honestly, a stupid idea. I can think of about 8 different ways that would be instantly undermining the integrity of this validation mechanism. Making the location of the Touch ID sensor "more convenient" is throwing out the baby with the bath water.

And i don't ever think it have been done. Fingerprint scanners on computers have existed for many years., and I've never even heard of any scanners located on a stationary computer.

The "it" that Apple would be doing is putting Touch ID authentication on all of their computers -- and having integrated support in the OS and Safari to manage logins to websites (for starters).

Further, the "it" Apple would provide is the same service on all of their new computers -- including Haswell MBP laptops. All stationary Macs, and all mobile Macs. And all iPhones, iPads, and iPods running iOS. A seamless experience running across a gamut of computation devices. Nobody has ever provided the comprehensive quality of hardware and software that Apple can provide for that service.

I think Apple would be seriously ridiculed if they put one on the Mac Pro.

In case you haven't noticed, Apple gets ridiculed for most everything they do or don't do. Here's a video of someone ridiculing Apple back in 2007:

Ballmer's ridicule of Apple didn't work out too well -- he will be departing Microsoft within the next 12 months. :D

Cos there would be such a small number of people that would use it.

Why would you think that?

If someone doesn't want to use Touch ID, that's fine. Just like the iPhone 5S -- they can continue to use passcodes.

Even before Authentec where bought by Apple, and a lot of laptops had readers. Even then most people didn't bother using them. (I did use it a lot on my Vaio.) So for people to even think of using them at all they need to be extremely easy to use. So easy that you almost don't notice it.

Why do you think the deployment of the fingerprint scanners on an isolated laptop would be remotely to AAPL's ecosystem-wide deployment of fingerprint-scanning dedicated hardware, OSs, and multi-platform apps? The two don't sound remotely comparable.

And Apple have made only Apple store and unlocking of the phone available when using then fingerprint reader.

And AAPL provided no means for third-party developers to make apps when the iPhone was first released in 2007. Why do you presume the Touch ID pad would only be used for unlocking Mac computers? :confused:

And phones have vastly different ways then computers of getting used.
Your phone you pick up from you pocket many times a day. And that way its very convenient to have a scanner so you don't have to use a pass key.

Validation for purchases on e-commerce sites and apps is an obvious use for both iOS and Mac Touch ID device.
 
well... but the question still stands... would Apple really release Mavericks without their rMBP's updated...? doesn't make sense to me.. they defo will not only release Mac Pro but also their mobile flagship rMBP

I'm gonna go ahead and assume Mavericks will be done by late October at this point. The fact that they would let it finish around November, a few weeks after the updated Macbooks wouldn't make much sense to me. They would think it best for them to just work overtime if it was due to finish only a few weeks behind the refresh. But not sure if they actually care enough about that. Could be they don't. I would though
 
Waiting

Hi everyone.

Like many of you I've been following this thread for al long long very long time and the longer it takes, the less patient I get.
My uncle is flying the 20th of october to Hong Kong and it would be extremely awesome if the new haswell rMBP would be for sale by then (because of the lack of taxes he could buy on for me there).
Because of this minor new rumor that 'the event' would take place on the 15th of october my question to you all is: if the announcement will take place on 10/15, how long will it take until they are for sale in the apple stores (in Hong Kong)?

iPhones toke quite long so I'd like to hear your opinion

Thanks
 
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My uncle is flying the 20th of october to Hong Kong and it would be extremely awesome if the new haswell rMBP would be for sale by then (because of the lack of taxes he could buy on for me there).
Because of this minor new rumor that 'the event' would take place on the 15th of october my question to you all is: if the announcement will take place on 10/15, how long will it take until they are for sale in the apple stores (in Hong Kong)?

From the time new Apple products first go on sale in Hong Kong until one can simply walk into an Apple Store and buy them is weeks. They sell out faster than anywhere else because people buy all they can and take them to China to sell. Once the new product goes on sale in China, then it becomes readily available in Hong Kong. Until then, it's a matter of showing up hours before the store opens, hoping they will have some product for the first customers in the queue.
 
From the time new Apple products first go on sale in Hong Kong until one can simply walk into an Apple Store and buy them is weeks. They sell out faster than anywhere else because people buy all they can and take them to China to sell. Once the new product goes on sale in China, then it becomes readily available in Hong Kong. Until then, it's a matter of showing up hours before the store opens, hoping they will have some product for the first customers in the queue.

Thanks, didn't thought about that yet. I think I just have to hope that they go for sale in China right away, just like the iPhones did. But I guess those odds are not in my favor…
 
Yep, the begrudge is real. I learned to stop trying to convince my parents a long time ago. I just work my ass off over the summer and winter, and then pray I have enough money to pay for my cell phone and food throughout the year, lol ;)

It helps working in an office. $16 an hour treats you right, as a college kid anyway.

$16/hour? You're lucky. $7.25/hr but at least I get the satisfaction that comes from working with children :). Office work ain't for me.
 
I'm so close to pulling the trigger on the specced up 15"...

The way I see it is that it's already a beast of a machine, and while whatever they add on the Haswell version will be an improvement, in terms of the actual computer (i.e., a screen, a fast processor and a good keyboard), the current model is still possibly the best laptop you can buy.
 
I'm so close to pulling the trigger on the specced up 15"...

The way I see it is that it's already a beast of a machine, and while whatever they add on the Haswell version will be an improvement, in terms of the actual computer (i.e., a screen, a fast processor and a good keyboard), the current model is still possibly the best laptop you can buy.

Go for it if you can't wait. But many of us have waited this long, and we aren't giving up now.
 
Go for it if you can't wait. But many of us have waited this long, and we aren't giving up now.

I know, I've been waiting a few months too. If I could wait I would, but I need it for university and I start in two weeks. I pretty much need to order it by Thursday to be 100% certain I'll get it before I leave.

Really disappointed that it's taking Apple so long.
 
I really really hope that Apple updates the cMBP 13" as well to Haswell. That would be awesome as the price difference for the SSD with the same capacity is still huge.
 
I'm so close to pulling the trigger on the specced up 15"...

The way I see it is that it's already a beast of a machine, and while whatever they add on the Haswell version will be an improvement, in terms of the actual computer (i.e., a screen, a fast processor and a good keyboard), the current model is still possibly the best laptop you can buy.

So do you think prices on the Ivy Bridge machines will go UP when the Haswells are announced? The way I see it, wait a few weeks, save a couple hundred bucks. Easy as that.

Edit: didn't see that you need your MBP for Uni. Apologies!
 
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HP claim that it will be available for the holiday season. That gives us one more data point about the availability of Haswell chips which may be suitable for at least some MBP models.

I doubt that the $299 Chromebook is going to be using a Haswell CPU with HD 5100 or HD 5200 graphics.

It's probably using something like a ULV i3 with HD 4400 graphics.

The ULV Haswell CPUs have been shipping in real notebooks since June, see the Macbook Air.
 
I think there's a zero percent chance of that happening this year. Apple will have its hands full manufacturing enough of these sensors just for the 5S.

I can most definitely see this happening, especially considering they have waited for so long to introduce them.

iPhone sales 2012: 125 Million
Mac Sales 2012: 18 Million

And keep in mind only the 5s is using the sensor, not the 5c (which is expected to sell a LOT more)
 
I can most definitely see this happening, especially considering they have waited for so long to introduce them.

iPhone sales 2012: 125 Million
Mac Sales 2012: 18 Million

And keep in mind only the 5s is using the sensor, not the 5c (which is expected to sell a LOT more)

I will eat my hat if there's a fingerprint sensor on the new MBP this year, let alone the Mac Pro.
 
I know, I've been waiting a few months too. If I could wait I would, but I need it for university and I start in two weeks. I pretty much need to order it by Thursday to be 100% certain I'll get it before I leave.

Really disappointed that it's taking Apple so long.

Ah, that sucks. My laptop broke down back in June, but I've been holding on. Definitely going to be a day-one purchase for me.
 
I was going to comment on how the brand Apple has atleast a responsibility to people who are depending on them etc, but then I thought about it from Apple's POV.

They are the ones who want to get this out the door more than ANYONE of us here. They would present it to us on a silver platter today if they had it ready. Every day they delay is some money lost. Tim Cook must be losing his hair. Apple themselves stand to lose the most from the delay.

So take solace in the fact that we can be assured they are working as hard as they can and are not holding out on us or something.

Macs account for something like 3% of Apple's income, so I really doubt Tim Cook will be losing any hair over a few months' worth of delay.
 
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